I've yet to hear any explanation as to how this would actually happen. Also still waiting on one Biden win.
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That was hilarious and repugnant all at the same time. I had just said I'd have a beer with Ern then he goes and proves he is a complete MSM brainwashed ruhtard the next day with the epic meltdown. Just another "if you support Trump you are actively in the KKK and do lynchings weekly" moron. Sad how far Ern has fallen.
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I went a little overboard on that particular post. I'll own that.
Not everyone, but it's blatant in some here, and accepted by others, because its never self-policed. I'm happy to call out libs when it's deserved, but it seems the Tug is incapable of doing the same when their kin is slipping into the dark place.
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You weren't around for the bloody murder of @46XiJCAB.
Earth to Ern. Orban is popular in Hungary because he opposes the EUs open border policy and the intervention of unelected EU officials in Hungary's national sovereignty. Just more word salad without any factual support. What the phuck does "strongman" exactly mean? Imagine that effective national policies lead to election wins. Leftards can't have that.
Not a great look and maybe lurk a bit longer if you think that. Maybe pm @blackfamilydawg
If you knew more about some of us personally you'd realize how both hilariously and insultingly out of touch this take is.
I'm going to go back to how donkey dumb it is to think that someone dedicated to limiting federal power is going to be a dictator.
Overturning Chevron is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you would need to do if you wanted an all powerful federal dictator.
It's right there with equating "leaving it to the states" with a federal abortion ban.
Overturning Chevron is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you would need to do if you wanted an all powerful federal dictator.
It's right there with equating "leaving it to the states" with a federal abortion ban.
It is beyond an insane argument.
Also, we saw what actual dictators did with Covid.
I'll admit that there are some notable racists that Post here. @HHusky and @HuskyBuck
Freedom of speech is a primary principle of the tug though and benefits even those that yearn for fascism.
So what I surmise from this thread. Two guys here are deathly afraid that Trump will be a fascist strongman dictator, even though during his reign of terror not more than 3 and a half years ago his power wasn’t even great enough to stop a very sketchy election result.
Then in the years following, his power was so absolute that he was convicted of 34 felonies for process crimes and also fined a half a billion dollars for calling a crazy woman crazy.
Boy he is bad at dictatoring.
Then in the years following, his power was so absolute that he was convicted of 34 felonies for process crimes and also fined a half a billion dollars for calling a crazy woman crazy.
Boy he is bad at dictatoring.
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I know you know what it is, and know it's nothing like QAnon, but if you or anyone else wants a refresher, wiki crushes it. Might as well get familiar with it because you're going to be hearing a lot about it the next few months.
@UW_Doog_Bot , this is how autocracy/kleptocracy is implemented and democracy is dismantled, little by little. It's not a grand sweeping strongarm move. See: Orban. There's many ways to skin a cat. Your Chevron argument falls apart when you consider the courts.
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It’s hard to take anyone seriously who posts an idea from the Heritage Society and insist that will be policy.
It’s dumb, my guy. You are struggling mightily here when you receive any pushback for what are over-the-top proclamations.
I don’t care what the Heritage Society thinks. I care about presidential and party platforms.
It’s dumb, my guy. You are struggling mightily here when you receive any pushback for what are over-the-top proclamations.
I don’t care what the Heritage Society thinks. I care about presidential and party platforms.
CallMeBigErn
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Even if that were true, which it is not, Wikipedia is not a source. The page is an aggregation and summary, with attached links, and 151 sources. I'm providing you with a primer. It's on you to pursue it. The Heritage Foundation is one of the most influential conservative think tanks in modern America, with tentacles and partnerships everywhere. Reagan implemented/initiated 60% of the Heritage Foundations Mandate for Leadership policy recommendations within the first year of his presidency, and called it a "vital force" during his presidency. The HF had a huge say in the first Trump administration, staffing, policy, etc. Betsy DeVos, Mick Mulvaney, Rick Perry, Scott Pruit, Jeff Sessions, etc, all Heritage Foundation. Trump embraced 2/3rds of the HF's policy proposals in the first administration. HF has been ranked as having the most significant impact on public policy globally from 2017-2019.
And this was all before 2022, after a leadership change to Kevin Roberts, where the full public embrace of national conservatism ideology began in the HF, and 2023 when a working relationship with a state-funded Hungarian think tank, the Danube Institute, began. I won't get into the Orban link anymore, but it's all out out there to explore.
Currently, the HF, its Mandate for Leadership proposal authors, and its coalitions, are chock full of ex and future Trump administration officials and advisors, including Stephen Miller, Navarro, Meadows, Vought (the policy director of the RNC), John McEntee (Trump's loyalty cop and "deputy president"), and more.
Part of all this, the HF and Project 2025 is tasked with building a Presidential Personnel Database, a net cast to identify loyalists, purity tests and all, to serve and staff the Trump administration after the Schedule F purge of civil servants, as I spoke about before.
The core tenet of Project 2025 is the overhaul of the federal
bureaucracy. The plan includes the reclassification of tens of thousands
of federal employees under a proposed "Schedule F" to facilitate easier
firing and hiring of personnel aligned with conservative values. The
goal is to ensure that federal agencies are staffed by individuals who
will implement the president's agenda without resistance from career
civil servants.
And this is just part of it. You and @EverettChris can dismiss it all, attack sources, keep your head in the sand, and/or embrace it all you want. These are the facts, IDGAF what you do with em, but you should know about em.
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Homerun!
Ern thinks actual climate change legislation that fucks Americans is off in the weeds but boy does he know his conspiracy theories
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@DerekJohnson this site is increasingly frustrating and difficult to use.
@CallMeBigErn
Let's see, if you were going to be a dictator would you
A) Fire tons of federal employees, reduce the size of the federal government, and return power to the states/Congress/judiciary
Or
B) Hire tons of feds, massively expand the federal agencies and militarize them, expand the scope of federal power, and expand executive power
Let's clearly look at who has done which in the last decade plus.
@CallMeBigErn
Let's see, if you were going to be a dictator would you
A) Fire tons of federal employees, reduce the size of the federal government, and return power to the states/Congress/judiciary
Or
B) Hire tons of feds, massively expand the federal agencies and militarize them, expand the scope of federal power, and expand executive power
Let's clearly look at who has done which in the last decade plus.
Wow I'm convinced