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PostGameOrangeSlices

PostGameOrangeSlices

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Washington wins the natty if Dillon Johnson doesn't get injured for no fucking reason at the end of the Texas game

Being down an elite RB against that Michigan defense was worst case scenario. That game with a healthy offense was there for the taking for two entire quarters of ineptitude.

Rewatched the Pac 12 Champ game against Oregon. This MF had 3td and sealed the game on a 3rd and 9 run for 20 yards. He was a beast.

FMFYFE
 
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Washington could barely move the ball, had no run game, and it was still a one score game for 2 and a half quarters.

But yeah a monster like Johnson at RB wouldn't have turned the tide.

Wrong as usual Tequilla
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Here's why I disagree ... was trying to be brief for you :cool:

If you go back and watch that game the UW OL was getting pushed around the balance of the game by the Michigan front and even when they ran I wouldn't say that there were meaningful holes being created which is also telling because Michigan's D also was able to lean towards a 1-dimensional pass defense because of the DJ injury ... the long run of the game was 9 yards by Jalen McMillan

There were also some schematic issues in our passing game where we didn't adjust to what Michigan was doing.

Throughout the season UW had had success passing outside of the hashes with the strength of Penix's arm often eliminating the ability for safeties to play over the top and impact those throws. In many instances Michigan fanned their S towards the boundaries to help on those throws over the top allowing their outside CBs to squat on a lot of the midrange throws that Penix and company were wildly successful at during the season.

What UW did a HORRIFIC job of adjusting to was creating route concepts that held the S on the outside and attacking the middle of the field where there were voids in Michigan's defense. This had issues in a number of areas ...

1. Game planning ... we didn't see this planned for ahead of the game nor did we see material in-game adjustments ... whether you want to ding DeBoer for having wandering Bama eyes or a sign of things to come with Grubb that further showed its hand in the NFL in 2024 and in some of Bama's struggles this year take your choice

2. TE injuries limiting the ability for UW to stretch the field down the seam ... Westover had 5 catches (2nd leading pass catcher) but limited receiving average highlighting his inability to get down the seam (hand injury) and Culp was also nursing an injury going into the game

3. OL struggled to hold up long enough to allow for Penix to be able to attack Michigan's defensive vulnerabilities ... outside of a single play to Rome (and a play that got called back via penalty), the longest pass play for Washington all night was 15 yards ... Michigan forced UW to execute lengthy drives and avoid critical drive killing mistakes

Sure, it would have been nice to have had a running game to balance out some of the issues but the bigger issue was that Michigan was attacking the UW offense at the LOS and bet that UW couldn't hold long enough to attack them deep down the field ... it was a bet that Michigan won.
 
Here is a succinct reply that counters your paragraphs of "analysis"

Without Dillon Johnson, Michigan could sell out to stop the passing attack.

Johnson could barely walk and was 1/10th of his Oregon/Texas form.

That guy was clutch and was a huge reason UW was 14-0 until that point. Rewatch the Oregon game. He wills himself to a first down through contact.
 
I understand what PGOS is driving at, but the one caveat is the defensive lapses in the first half. That makes an absolute determination hard to come by.
 
gmo said:
I tend to think it was both. Different game if offense wasn't so one dimensional. Schemes were shit as well I agree... i'll never forgive DeBoer for being distracted. Fuck that guy forever.
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Yeah, Deboer doesn't turn down Alabama because Johnson's healthy
 
Saw a half quarter or so of the 23 Natty replay a couple of weeks ago, and UW's first or second drive they were doing exactly what they needed to. Methodically going down the field like they did all game against Oregon and how Indiana looks most of the time.

Penix got impatient and it fucked up everything they were doing, more than the td runs. Maybe Grubb/DeBoer did as well.
 
Having the defense give up 34 wasn't abnormal that year. The Occam's razor of that game was the oline pass blocking didn't step up and Penix ran out of the magic he had against Texas which I think is among the best QB CFB performances I've ever seen
 
Canadawg said:
Having the defense give up 34 wasn't abnormal that year. The Occam's razor of that game was the oline pass blocking didn't step up and Penix ran out of the magic he had against Texas which I think is among the best QB CFB performances I've ever seen
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Penix had several games that year among the best, if not THE best, I've ever seen.
 
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