I think 2 years is acceptable if you see year 1 full scale roster overhaul and progress.
We are in year 3 of talking recruiting potential though. Year five under Jedd *might be special.
A couple of questions regarding the fischer of men . . . . . . . .
- Thread starter EwaDwag
- Start date
We are in year 3 of talking recruiting potential though. Year five under Jedd *might be special.
TheHB
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Moving goalpoasts is what we? do best
PostGameOrangeSlices
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Not really. Just pointing at that DeBoer had 4 losses in season 2. Just like Fisch.
Both need to have a big year 3
Wasn’t the 4th one in the playoffs?
PostGameOrangeSlices
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Yes, and shouldn't have been. 5 SEC teams was a joke.
Chokelahoma choked to them, another suspect SEC team.
That kind of season isn't going to do DeBoer any favors there.
Always the excuses
Cope
Cope
PostGameOrangeSlices
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Each coach lost 4 games.
Sorry facts hurt your feelings
Sorry facts hurt your feelings
Playoffs year 2
Twice
Career losing record and no playoffs with a shit future
Facts
Cope harder
I'm a Husky fan. 25-3 is the standard
Twice
Career losing record and no playoffs with a shit future
Facts
Cope harder
I'm a Husky fan. 25-3 is the standard
Tequilla
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Race,
The issue with you as always is a lack of nuance and understanding ...
I don't think anybody would try to say that the situation that DeBoer took over at UW (4-8 with the Jimmy Lake meltdown) was better than the one that he took over at Alabama (St Nick's roster and coming off a CFP Semi OT loss)
At this point, it's also hard to conclude at this point that DeBoer has not done as good of a job at Bama as he did at UW
Now, we can argue whether DeBoer would have been able to sustain his success at UW had he stayed and that's a different discussion ...
But at this point I think it's also fair to say that what KDB did at UW was likely an outlier and on the high-end of expected outcomes (take his record in 1 score games for instance) ...
And the problem with the KDB years as we distance ourselves from them is that we put those 2 years on a pedestal as an example of what can happen without also recognizing the tremendous amount of good fortune that we had during that period that is unlikely to take place going forward
The issue with you as always is a lack of nuance and understanding ...
I don't think anybody would try to say that the situation that DeBoer took over at UW (4-8 with the Jimmy Lake meltdown) was better than the one that he took over at Alabama (St Nick's roster and coming off a CFP Semi OT loss)
At this point, it's also hard to conclude at this point that DeBoer has not done as good of a job at Bama as he did at UW
Now, we can argue whether DeBoer would have been able to sustain his success at UW had he stayed and that's a different discussion ...
But at this point I think it's also fair to say that what KDB did at UW was likely an outlier and on the high-end of expected outcomes (take his record in 1 score games for instance) ...
And the problem with the KDB years as we distance ourselves from them is that we put those 2 years on a pedestal as an example of what can happen without also recognizing the tremendous amount of good fortune that we had during that period that is unlikely to take place going forward
I don't even understand why we're having this conversation.
Alabama's best wins 2025 - Georgia and Oklahoma (playoffs)
UW's best wins 2025 - Illinois and Boise State
Bama's 10-4 > UW's 9-4. And it's not even close. And I'm someone who said Bama shouldn't have been in the playoffs over Notre Dame.
I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
The problem with DeBoer is he destroys the arguments of the losers like Fisch and the losers who support him
Today's word is outlier as in our coach sucks so a great coach is an outlier as if that is an excuse to keep a coach who sucks instead of finding another outlier since UW was too fucking stupid to keep the outlier they had
And you need the nuance of the greatest 4-8 team in history to make the "nuance" not sound as retarded as it is
And of course Outlier 'Cig who took over the program with the most losses in college football history
By all means nuance yourself to another shitty season under Fisch and bloviate some more bullshit to defend it
Today's word is outlier as in our coach sucks so a great coach is an outlier as if that is an excuse to keep a coach who sucks instead of finding another outlier since UW was too fucking stupid to keep the outlier they had
And you need the nuance of the greatest 4-8 team in history to make the "nuance" not sound as retarded as it is
And of course Outlier 'Cig who took over the program with the most losses in college football history
By all means nuance yourself to another shitty season under Fisch and bloviate some more bullshit to defend it
The funniest thing is that the worse they say DeBoer is and the more they downplay what he did the worse Fisch looks
Fisch was supposed to bring Arizona with him like Cig brought James Madison players
Oops
Call it an outlier and nuance away
Fisch was supposed to bring Arizona with him like Cig brought James Madison players
Oops
Call it an outlier and nuance away
When Fajita and MacMillan didn't head north with him, that was a major red flag
Those two would have been nice to haves, the real miss was the 2-3 pretty legit OL guys.
But due to their high profile nature, they served as canaries in the coal mine
HFNY
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Though to be fair, UW was mostly behind on the NIL / portal thing by at least a year. While other schools jumped in, UW was trying to lead from behind. It was really really dumb.
Regarding the CBs next year, let's see how they do before crowning the 2025 CBs as the best ever. Tacario Davis didn't play against Ohio State, Oregon, and also didn't play in the bowl game. He had the fewest amount of tackles and passes defended since his true frosh year.
Unclear if they didn’t like Judd/Carrol enough to move or we were not offering enough to make it happen. Either way it was definitely an early red flag.
Humberto wanted those two more than judd wanted top 30 desirable UA xfers. Seems pretty simple.
Carrolll…
Petros said the other day that the Raiders OL/Geno were having their own meetings (without Brennan Carroll) to figure out protection schemes. It’s no wonder the Zona OL didn’t want to follow him here.