Vander Ploog, 2025 4 ⭐️ TE, Fullerton (Troy), CA. (DECommitted AFTER PSU PLUNGERED FISH)

There’s still a long way to go in sorting some of this stuff out
My general opinion is that the difference between 6 wins or 8 wins in this world is semantics and if you don’t view your roster as being a CFP challenger you’re probably better off keeping the spending on NIL at or below market values and save that $$$ until it can make a material difference
 
HFNY said:
WoolleyDoog said:
Tequilla said:
WoolleyDoog said:
Probably gotta win some recruiting battles you're not supposed to if you're going to take it to the next level and build through high school.
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Which means you're going to have to prioritize some NIL dollars for players that have yet to prove it through production
That's something that to my best knowledge UW has yet to do as of yet
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Do we know if UW is low in NIL in this particular situation? There's a lot of reasons for a recruit like Ploog to take the Oregon route here so I would think you would have to be willing to outbid them significantly (not easy) here. Being part of a rebuild has always been a bit of a tougher sell and now you throw in another program can pay you more or even the same and it makes that an almost impossible sell unless the guy has some connection to the program.
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It's still the wild west and Phil Knight is willing to outspend anyone. IIRC, the House settlement doesn't come into play until next year and part of that is a 3rd party commission to analyze / vet NIL deals to see if they are actually what the market will actually play. Until the new rules come into place, Knight can pay recruits as much as he wants. Even if UW was willing to pay him, say, $500k as soon as he signed a deal, Knight would beat it by 50-100%.
If there's a silver lining, it's that this is as bad as NIL will get since there aren't rules yet. We can only hope that the new rules will not allow them to pay top dollar for so many portal players and recruits.
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there is no feasible way to put any cap on what ppl are offered to play unless all the players agree to it. Furthermore there is nothing from stopping a booster from paying a player for appearances and/or being a spokesperson for their business. This likely never stops.
 
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
 
I actually recently heard an interesting conspiracy theory that the Patriots and Kraft found a way to pay Brady outside of his NFL contract so they could have a bunch of cap space to sign other guys. In the NFL it seems what would stop this from being an actual thing or more of a thing is that you get punished if you get caught. Which is simply what it has to be in college.
 
HFNY said:
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
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so, who sets the market? nike? uncle phil? the clearing house? how would the clearing house determine how company values an athlete? again, who determines the going rate? whatever the market will bear of course.
no professional athletes have to go through a clearing house to justify their outside pay.
 
WoolleyDoog said:
I actually recently heard an interesting conspiracy theory that the Patriots and Kraft found a way to pay Brady outside of his NFL contract so they could have a bunch of cap space to sign other guys. In the NFL it seems what would stop this from being an actual thing or more of a thing is that you get punished if you get caught. Which is simply what it has to be in college.
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That would be wild, especially because they were already busted for videotaping the Rams' Super Bowl practice. I would think the NFL would take away multiple draft picks and reduce their cap by 15-20% if caught.
If the NCAA found out about something similar in their ranks, they would probably cut OV's in half and dock many scholarships or roster spots.
 
Maceothecat said:
HFNY said:
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
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so, who sets the market? nike? uncle phil? the clearing house? how would the clearing house determine how company values an athlete? again, who determines the going rate? whatever the market will bear of course.
no professional athletes have to go through a clearing house to justify their outside pay.
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The 3rd party commission. I suspect anything above a certain threshold will get an analysis to see whether it makes sense for the local market the player will be in.
 
HFNY said:
Maceothecat said:
HFNY said:
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
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so, who sets the market? nike? uncle phil? the clearing house? how would the clearing house determine how company values an athlete? again, who determines the going rate? whatever the market will bear of course.
no professional athletes have to go through a clearing house to justify their outside pay.
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The 3rd party commission. I suspect anything above a certain threshold will get an analysis to see whether it makes sense for the local market the player will be in.
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that is bound for litigation. right off the bat.
 
I'm not an attorney but that's possible. I imagine the player would likely need to demonstrate that they were somehow restrained by unfair practices, limited in their ability to negotiate fairly, and / or subjected to agreements that unfairly depressed their NIL value.
But the commission is probably going to give some leeway rather than be sticklers and will mostly be policing the more outlandish deals.
 
Tequilla said:
There’s still a long way to go in sorting some of this stuff out
My general opinion is that the difference between 6 wins or 8 wins in this world is semantics and if you don’t view your roster as being a CFP challenger you’re probably better off keeping the spending on NIL at or below market values and save that $$$ until it can make a material difference
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fish is a brain away from 3 or 4 more wins.
 
Maceothecat said:
HFNY said:
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
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so, who sets the market? nike? uncle phil? the clearing house? how would the clearing house determine how company values an athlete? again, who determines the going rate? whatever the market will bear of course.
no professional athletes have to go through a clearing house to justify their outside pay.
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Exactly this, and furthermore there isn't a Governing Body in America naive enough to try and enforce this or put guardrails into place.
The trial lawyers lining up to get it into the court system if implemented could fill up Husky Stadium.
 
the UW really should start looking at this as if it were a professional operation. because it is. fight this as long as you want, it only sets the UW further behind.
until then they will be hoping for some sort of regulation to save them. it won't.
 
board is so dead nobody has updated the thread title yet. But that’s ok because Jedd told us he’s building the best class in program history.
 
HFNY said:
That easily could happen, we'll see how the 3rd party commission works. There is nothing to stop a booster from paying a player $50k for being a spokesman but it has to be at or below market rates next year. For instance, Phil Knight won't be able to pay someone $1 million to be a spokesman for Nike if hardly anyone has heard of them. IMHO, that's why he's spending so much now to buy guys in the portal and promising recruits money once they sign. There are no checks and balances right now so he's happy to spend whatever it takes with no limits.
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Another “no limit” retard.
 
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