Unofficial TCU v Ole Miss in Tequilla's Rice Bowl thread
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FreeChavez
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Does a team and their idiot fan base really feel better about themselves by not getting shutout vs that 3 points which the refs(and Patterson) gifted them? In a close game that would be reviewed and given back to tcu
FreeChavez
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Let's see a reverse or something just to fuck with ole miss
the difference is that if baylor delivers a plunger, they will be throwing around asterisk natty so hard we'll think it's 2002. those fags will always popoff more than they've accomplished, and piss and moan when everyone wont join them. green and yellow is a fucking disease.
Oklahoma- worst season since Stoops has been coach.
Texas- 2nd worst season since 1997
Oklahoma State- worst season since 2006.
Texas Texh has completely fallen off the map. Iowa State has gone from .500 to absolute dreck. Yeah, the Big 12 is great.
When three of the top schools in the Conference are having historically bad seasons, your conference sucks. It's been a terrible year for the Big 12. Arguing otherwise is FS. You are only disagreeing because you are a Froog.
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Pretty big difference Tequilla. Nice try though.
Tequilla
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I fail to see the difference.
You're trying to use a tired argument to fit your pre-determined and biased position.
Oklahoma went into the year as a Top 5 team and a legit National Title Contender. That they had a bad year was Bob Stoops FS fault? Or is he still a good coach? Or was it the lack of QB they got at times? And if so, why is that a valid excuse for Stoops but not for Petersen in what he had with Miles (who was far less experienced than Trevor Knight)?
Nobody expected Texas to be good this year as they were in a transition year under a new coach. Once Ash retired due to concussions it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Texas was going to struggle a bit. Defensively, they were still a very good team.
Okie Lite was in a transition year after a number of graduations and on top of that went through a number of different QBs.
Tech's probably the most legit argument that you threw out there - they fell on their ass. Citing Iowa State is just flat out FS ... they're a non-factor.
Baylor's been playing at a high level going on 4-5 seasons now. What they did this year isn't anything new or a surprise. They'll probably take a bit of a step back next year but they'll still be a very good team.
Before the season, I said that TCU was a legit conference championship team and many laughed at me for saying so. Who's laughing now?
If you want to sit there and say that TCU isn't as good as many other teams because of what they do on the field, then I'm fine with that. I'll disagree with you ... but whatever. But if you're going to discredit them because of their conference ... and in particular the unspoken argument that goes along with it (Big 10 >>> Big 12), then I'm going to fucking disagree every single day of the week. That hasn't been a true statement for many years. It isn't a true statement this year.
Before today, Ole Miss lost 2 games on the season by a total of 7 points. They beat the #1 team in the country. The most points they gave up in a game all year was 35 points to Auburn. They held every other opponent on the year to 20 points or less. They lost by 39 points to TCU. They gave up 42 points to TCU. TCU treated them like they were Okie Lite (at least Okie Lite only lost 42-9).
At some point, it's ok to say that it just might be possible that TCU was better than you thought. It also might be possible after Ohio State gets their ass kicked tomorrow that maybe, just maybe, the Selection Committee played politics on the Selection Day and put in the big money blue blood of Ohio State over the more deserving teams from the Big 12. Ohio State's got no choice tomorrow but to win the game to save the face of the Big 10 going forward.
Tequilla
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I get that and I get that that's how the system works with the way it is set up.
4 teams is stupid because one of the conferences would have gotten screwed with the champion (and that assumes that you don't have a ND or non Power 5 team that is worthy). 6 is a perfect number to me because the conference champs get in and it takes care of a situation where you have a clear team that belongs in the playoff picture but wouldn't have an auto bid. Take 6 teams this year and there's really no debate.
My favorite argument though that I've heard is that the Big 12 got shitted on because of the lack of conference title game. That's absolute BS. They play 9 conference games - only the PAC does that of the Power 5 conferences. If the Big 12 petitioned for a conference title game before the season they would have never seen that approved. Is the conference title game that important to the point that the Big 12 should just open the gates to bring on 2 dreck teams that water down their conference, schedule, etc.
I'm not saying that TCU would have won the National Title this year ... but anybody that thinks at this point that they weren't one of the Top 4 teams in the country probably needs to go get laser eye surgery.
You fail to see the difference because you choose to be blind.TCU is good. Very impressive win today. The Big 12 still sucks. It's unfortunate that TCU has been punished by the conference having a shitty year. Everyone but TCU has so far shit the bed and gotten plungered. Baylor beating Michigan State would help a little. Of course you said TCU was going to win the conference. You thought UW would too. You are a homer. Nothing wrong with it, but after reading your posts for a couple of years, it's hard to miss.
As for your Pac 12 argument. UW won 8 games, with a chance for 9. The last two years are their best seasons since 2001. 5-4 or 4-5 is the norm. It was an ordinary season. Comparing UW to Oklahoma is pretty FS when considering their records the last 5, 10, and 15 years. One program has been top 5-10 and gone to BCS Bowls. The other program has mostly sucked, but improved to mediocre in recent years. It's sad, but UW is irrelevant until proven otherwise.
USC went 6-3 in conference. The same as last year, and better than 2012. Since 2009, they have gone 5-4, 5-4, 7-2, 5-4, 6-3, 6-3. The Texas comparison is valid, but 6-3 looks like an average recent year to me. I get that Texas has struggled for awhile, but this year was especially bad.
Stanford had a down year. Agree there, but they have historically sucked. Oklahoma, Texas, and Oklahoma State have all been historically much better programs and bedrocks of the Big 12. You cannot say the same about Stanford and the Pac 10/12.
Nice to see we agree on Texas Tech and I only threw Iowa State in to add insult to injury. They are irrelevant, although a few years ago they beat #1 Oklahoma State and had a couple other upsets. Now, they are one of the worst programs in college football.
If UW (TCU in this comparison) and Arizona (Baylor) went 12-1 in a season that Oregon (Oklahoma) went 8-5, USC (Texas) went 6-7, and UCLA (Oklahoma State) went 6-7, I would agree that the Pac 12 had a rough year. TCU had a great season, but facts are facts. It was a down year for the Big 12.
As for your Pac 12 argument. UW won 8 games, with a chance for 9. The last two years are their best seasons since 2001. 5-4 or 4-5 is the norm. It was an ordinary season. Comparing UW to Oklahoma is pretty FS when considering their records the last 5, 10, and 15 years. One program has been top 5-10 and gone to BCS Bowls. The other program has mostly sucked, but improved to mediocre in recent years. It's sad, but UW is irrelevant until proven otherwise.
USC went 6-3 in conference. The same as last year, and better than 2012. Since 2009, they have gone 5-4, 5-4, 7-2, 5-4, 6-3, 6-3. The Texas comparison is valid, but 6-3 looks like an average recent year to me. I get that Texas has struggled for awhile, but this year was especially bad.
Stanford had a down year. Agree there, but they have historically sucked. Oklahoma, Texas, and Oklahoma State have all been historically much better programs and bedrocks of the Big 12. You cannot say the same about Stanford and the Pac 10/12.
Nice to see we agree on Texas Tech and I only threw Iowa State in to add insult to injury. They are irrelevant, although a few years ago they beat #1 Oklahoma State and had a couple other upsets. Now, they are one of the worst programs in college football.
If UW (TCU in this comparison) and Arizona (Baylor) went 12-1 in a season that Oregon (Oklahoma) went 8-5, USC (Texas) went 6-7, and UCLA (Oklahoma State) went 6-7, I would agree that the Pac 12 had a rough year. TCU had a great season, but facts are facts. It was a down year for the Big 12.
Tequilla
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Pretty sure I never said UW was going to win the conference this year
Pretty sure I also said that if TCU was going to win the conference, they would need good QB play. Only difference between this year and last 2 years has been QB play.
You confuse being a homer w being an optimist
Pretty sure I also said that if TCU was going to win the conference, they would need good QB play. Only difference between this year and last 2 years has been QB play.
You confuse being a homer w being an optimist