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Wisconsin is very mediocre. They went 7-1 in the big10 without playing either Michigan St or Ohio state in the regular season. They lost to Northwestern.

TCU deserves to stay in the CFP over Ohio State. I would say Ohio State is better than Florida State, but I doubt a committee will keep out an undefeated defending champ for Ohio state and their 3rd string QB.
 
2 teams are getting screwed. Really this whole thing should be 5 conference winners with 3 at large. But it's not so it has this stupid debate.
If Ohio state gets left out at least they have the political clout to make a change.
 
Bama, Oregon, Fla State, Ohio State. TCU and Baylor are left out and the Big 12 files a lawsuit against Emmert.
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Politics would say that this plays out - which has been one of my biggest fears.

This is also where the lack of Big 12 Conference Title Game hurts because you're comparing 12 game resumes versus 13 game resumes.
 
And for anybody really bitching about TCU vs. Baylor at this point ... last week we were looking at Alabama and Mississippi St being in the Top 4. If Mississippi St would have beat Ole Miss and finished with 1 loss, would anybody have batted an eye? It's a similar situation with TCU and Baylor.
 
2 teams are getting screwed. Really this whole thing should be 5 conference winners with 3 at large. But it's not so it has this stupid debate.
If Ohio state gets left out at least they have the political clout to make a change.
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3 at large leaves the fourth pissed off.

Four power conferences with 16 teams is the answer.

Win your division, play for your conference title

Win your conference go to the final four

Let all the mid tier teams have their own playoff and NC

Takes the computers and humans out of it. Settled 100% on the field.
 
Either that or you need to expand to 6 and let the top 2 get byes.

ACC/PAC needs 4 teams, SEC/Big 10 need 2 teams. Big 12 has 10 teams + ND makes it 11. Who is the 12th team? Boise?
 
And for anybody really bitching about TCU vs. Baylor at this point ... last week we were looking at Alabama and Mississippi St being in the Top 4. If Mississippi St would have beat Ole Miss and finished with 1 loss, would anybody have batted an eye? It's a similar situation with TCU and Baylor.
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Both would be in and puppylove_sugarsteel would have a stroke
 
If you don't win your conference thats on you. Right now we are going to have a legit 1 loss conference winner stay home. I really don't give a shit about the 9th place team that couldn't win their conference.
 
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The B1G sucks but TCU beat Minnesota so they are in. Spock would go insane reading this bored

TCU won't win their league
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I'm sure Spock (75k) would see the logic in saying Arizona sucks when they get drilled by Oregon, but Ohio state is great when they beat lesser ranked Wisconsin team.
 
We're just lucky to have 4 teams. How many times did a 1 loss Pac12 team not make the championship game including USC?

Oregon may be better than both FSU and Bama but if FSU wins under the old way they play Bama
 
The storyline has always been that the Big 10 sucked this year. They proved it in the non-conference season by not beating anybody. ANYBODY.

As was pointed out, Wisconsin lost to Northwestern. Northwestern was BAD this year. Yet Wisconsin was good enough to win their division. That should speak volumes about how bad the Big 10 was this year.

Ohio may be one of the top 4 teams in the country ... but really hard to say that how they are beating Wisconsin all of a sudden makes them look great. Particularly when you have the people saying that are also trying to say that Arizona isn't any good. Arizona is much better than Wisconsin.
 
The B1G sucks but TCU beat Minnesota so they are in. Spock would go insane reading this bored

TCU won't win their league
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I'm sure Spock (75k) would see the logic in saying Arizona sucks when they get drilled by Oregon, but Ohio state is great when they beat lesser ranked Wisconsin team.
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I've been defending Arizona since we played them. If you think Ohio States win means wisconsin sucks I pointed out the logical correlation

Hope this helps
 
And for anybody really bitching about TCU vs. Baylor at this point ... last week we were looking at Alabama and Mississippi St being in the Top 4. If Mississippi St would have beat Ole Miss and finished with 1 loss, would anybody have batted an eye? It's a similar situation with TCU and Baylor.
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How is having both MSU and Bama in anything at all like having TCU in and Baylor out?

The storyline has always been that the Big 10 sucked this year. They proved it in the non-conference season by not beating anybody. ANYBODY.

As was pointed out, Wisconsin lost to Northwestern. Northwestern was BAD this year. Yet Wisconsin was good enough to win their division. That should speak volumes about how bad the Big 10 was this year.

Ohio may be one of the top 4 teams in the country ... but really hard to say that how they are beating Wisconsin all of a sudden makes them look great. Particularly when you have the people saying that are also trying to say that Arizona isn't any good. Arizona is much better than Wisconsin.
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Curbstomping Wisconsin with your #3 QB says a lot.
 
If you don't win your conference thats on you. Right now we are going to have a legit 1 loss conference winner stay home. I really don't give a shit about the 9th place team that couldn't win their conference.
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I have no desire to see an 8th seed Michigan State get hot and win the Natty.

And you may not care about the 1st out ... but those who want a 16 team playoff would point to it.

The problem is every year college football gets more fucked ... I was pissed when I saw a TCU sign that said ... Smelling Roses ... Fuck you ... you fucking fuck.
 
If you don't win your conference thats on you. Right now we are going to have a legit 1 loss conference winner stay home. I really don't give a shit about the 9th place team that couldn't win their conference.
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I have no desire to see an 8th seed Michigan State get hot and win the Natty.

And you may not care about the 1st out ... but those who want a 16 team playoff would point to it.

The problem is every year college football gets more fucked ... I was pissed when I saw a TCU sign that said ... Smelling Roses ... Fuck you ... you fucking fuck.
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Lolz
 
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