Three state of WA OL starting…

[WoolleyDoog]

Long story short, I poasted something not long ago UW really fucked up building around what looks like a legit run of instant lineman at a time where it looks like top instate talent has fallen off. Especially since other than Conerly none of them were guys who I assume big schools were throwing bags at we couldn't match. But I don't know. It seemed like someone poisoned the well locally against UW like 20 years ago and it's never consistently recovered and everyone wants to "put on for Seattle" somewhere else and be forgotten, or at best, hated.

 

[HFNY]

Long story short, I poasted something not long ago UW really fucked up building around what looks like a legit run of instant lineman at a time where it looks like top instate talent has fallen off. Especially since other than Conerly none of them were guys who I assume big schools were throwing bags at we couldn't match. But I don't know. It seemed like someone poisoned the well locally against UW like 20 years ago and it's never consistently recovered and everyone wants to "put on for Seattle" somewhere else and be forgotten, or at best, hated.

UW needs more NIL donations, simple as that. Chris Petersen was a great coach and recruited very well but that was before NIL.

 

[TheHB]

Outside of 2021, UW had a good run from the decade of Chris Petersen through Kalen DeBoer and despite the steaming pile DeBoer left after the NC game, UW still did ok and things are pointed in the right direction with Fisch's recruiting.
And I think it is misplaced anger to blame upper campus for DeBoer leaving. Once Alabama came calling, he was going to leave no matter what.

Blaming upper campus for DeBoer leaving is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Quietcowskee]

Long story short, I poasted something not long ago UW really fucked up building around what looks like a legit run of instant lineman at a time where it looks like top instate talent has fallen off. Especially since other than Conerly none of them were guys who I assume big schools were throwing bags at we couldn't match. But I don't know. It seemed like someone poisoned the well locally against UW like 20 years ago and it's never consistently recovered and everyone wants to "put on for Seattle" somewhere else and be forgotten, or at best, hated.

I think sark’s drunken douche-baggery broke a lot of local relationships and poisoned the well. As much as we hate Ty, he got Kearse, Kavario, etc. in the boat.

 

[creepycoug]

Connerly was going to go to UW until Phil Knight bought him. Sad but true.

My sources, which are little better than Kim's blonde intern, tell me that Lake fucked up his recruiting. Apparently, Lake and his ego liked turning the table on recruits and, instead of selling his program, tried to make recruits justify why they should be on the roster. From everything I've heard about Lake, that tracks. People have said his ego takes up two zip codes.
From the SI article (I can't find the other one I read that had more detail):
Though he was just down the street, Conerly was never going to play for the Huskies. Take your pick for the reason: 1) Oregon presented a much more attractive NIL offer that dwarfed the one in Montlake; 2) then-Husky coach Jimmy Lake had a weird way of making recruits sell him on them, not the other way around;  3) the UW program became an unforgivable mess; or 4) all of the above.
If I recall the timeframe correctly, #3 could be a big one. That happens. Miami just lost a highly regarded safety - actually their highest rated recruit - to hated Florida. Unlike other recruits, has been pretty open about why he left and flipped to hated Florida (from the Miami Herald):
And Stubbs didn’t hold back when explaining his reasoning, citing concerns he has for the Hurricanes’ future with the defense struggling in conference play this season and the nation’s top-ranked offense set to lose most of its key contributors from this year’s team. “It was looking like it was a player thing and a coaching thing, and that’s most likely a coaching thing,” Stubbs said on Stadium and Gale, a UF-centric podcast. “I think I didn’t want to go into a bad situation, and it’s a way better situation at Florida on defense right now. And offense, but defense, too.”
Basically, he's saying he saw the G Tech and Syracuse games and came to the conclusion the guys recruiting him can't coach on gameday. So, it's not always 100% about money. Recruits today expect to come in and play and get the college think wrapped up in a couple of years. Few want to sign up for a project.

 

[HFNY]

Connerly was going to go to UW until Phil Knight bought him. Sad but true.

My sources, which are little better than Kim's blonde intern, tell me that Lake fucked up his recruiting. Apparently, Lake and his ego liked turning the table on recruits and, instead of selling his program, tried to make recruits justify why they should be on the roster. From everything I've heard about Lake, that tracks. People have said his ego takes up two zip codes.
From the SI article (I can't find the other one I read that had more detail):
Though he was just down the street, Conerly was never going to play for the Huskies. Take your pick for the reason: 1) Oregon presented a much more attractive NIL offer that dwarfed the one in Montlake; 2) then-Husky coach Jimmy Lake had a weird way of making recruits sell him on them, not the other way around;  3) the UW program became an unforgivable mess; or 4) all of the above.
If I recall the timeframe correctly, #3 could be a big one. That happens. Miami just lost a highly regarded safety - actually their highest rated recruit - to hated Florida. Unlike other recruits, has been pretty open about why he left and flipped to hated Florida (from the Miami Herald):
And Stubbs didn’t hold back when explaining his reasoning, citing concerns he has for the Hurricanes’ future with the defense struggling in conference play this season and the nation’s top-ranked offense set to lose most of its key contributors from this year’s team. “It was looking like it was a player thing and a coaching thing, and that’s most likely a coaching thing,” Stubbs said on Stadium and Gale, a UF-centric podcast. “I think I didn’t want to go into a bad situation, and it’s a way better situation at Florida on defense right now. And offense, but defense, too.”
Basically, he's saying he saw the G Tech and Syracuse games and came to the conclusion the guys recruiting him can't coach on gameday. So, it's not always 100% about money. Recruits today expect to come in and play and get the college think wrapped up in a couple of years. Few want to sign up for a project.

To be fair, Cristobal left Oregon after the 2021 season and hired a young guy (Lanning) who was unproven and had never been a head coach before. So sure, Lake was a total douche and DeBoer wasn't DeBoer yet but Oregon offered Connerly (who intermittently homeless) basically a 3 year, $1 million+ deal. Plus DeBoer retained Huff (who had been recruiting Connerly) while Cristobal's OL coach went with him to Miami so a new one had to come in. Money was by far the #1 motivating factor.

 

[chuck]

Connerly was going to go to UW until Phil Knight bought him. Sad but true.

My sources, which are little better than Kim's blonde intern, tell me that Lake fucked up his recruiting. Apparently, Lake and his ego liked turning the table on recruits and, instead of selling his program, tried to make recruits justify why they should be on the roster. From everything I've heard about Lake, that tracks. People have said his ego takes up two zip codes.
From the SI article (I can't find the other one I read that had more detail):
Though he was just down the street, Conerly was never going to play for the Huskies. Take your pick for the reason: 1) Oregon presented a much more attractive NIL offer that dwarfed the one in Montlake; 2) then-Husky coach Jimmy Lake had a weird way of making recruits sell him on them, not the other way around;  3) the UW program became an unforgivable mess; or 4) all of the above.
If I recall the timeframe correctly, #3 could be a big one. That happens. Miami just lost a highly regarded safety - actually their highest rated recruit - to hated Florida. Unlike other recruits, has been pretty open about why he left and flipped to hated Florida (from the Miami Herald):
And Stubbs didn’t hold back when explaining his reasoning, citing concerns he has for the Hurricanes’ future with the defense struggling in conference play this season and the nation’s top-ranked offense set to lose most of its key contributors from this year’s team. “It was looking like it was a player thing and a coaching thing, and that’s most likely a coaching thing,” Stubbs said on Stadium and Gale, a UF-centric podcast. “I think I didn’t want to go into a bad situation, and it’s a way better situation at Florida on defense right now. And offense, but defense, too.”
Basically, he's saying he saw the G Tech and Syracuse games and came to the conclusion the guys recruiting him can't coach on gameday. So, it's not always 100% about money. Recruits today expect to come in and play and get the college think wrapped up in a couple of years. Few want to sign up for a project.

That's what I heard about Lake too. That's why people compared him to Ty. Nothing to do with ethnicity. It was because Ty had that kind of attitude as well. He thought recruits should beg him for a spot.

 

[SFGbob]

How about you quit whining and making excuses and we'll see

I'm not whining, telling it like it is. UW needs more money if it wants to get back to the playoffs.
You make demands yet as far as I can tell, you don't do anything to make anything happen. Are you a member of Montlake Futures? Do you have Tyee tickets?

Sure sounds a lot like whining.