This is what's wrong with American

[RaceBannon]

You have no idea of the number and your party doesn't want to find out

 

[Pitchfork51]

I committed voter fraud.

My sister's absentee ballot got sent to my mom's house so I voted trump and sent it in.

But since I'm Mexican it's fine right

 

[AZDuck]

You have no idea of the number and your party doesn't want to find out

I know the number. It's not substantial
https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/resources-voter-fraud-claims

Even your buddies at the National Review's best effort was 2,000 out of 4,000,000. And that assumes they all voted in the last election, which even their article didn't claim.

Here's why your guys are all hot and bothered about "illegals voting"

"trict ID laws cause a reduction in Democratic turnout by 8.8 percentage points, compared to a reduction of 3.6 percentage points for Republicans"

“The analysis shows that strict identification laws have a differentially negative impact on the turnout of Hispanics, Blacks, Asian-Americans, and multi-racial Americans in primaries and general elections,”

Fake news?

 

[doogie]

So, now you admit the size and scope is much larger than what you were touting at the beginning of his thread?

 

[Pitchfork51]

So, now you admit the size and scope is much larger than what you were touting at the beginning of his thread?

The old trickle truth

 

[RaceBannon]

You have no idea of the number and your party doesn't want to find out

I know the number. It's not substantial
https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/resources-voter-fraud-claims

Even your buddies at the National Review's best effort was 2,000 out of 4,000,000. And that assumes they all voted in the last election, which even their article didn't claim.

National Review is the home of Never Trump, not my buddies. I want the investigation, you don't. Why?

2,000 is a bullshit number on its face

Its like the tens of thousands of trannies in the military

 

[AZDuck]

Paul Ryan was a never Trumpster too. But he danced when the Prez called the tune.

I don't know if 2,000 is bullshit or not. It's your number.

Lots of people give a shit and have studied it. Libruls even. The hyper-conservative Governor of Texas threw a task force at it and has come up with 50 convictions in 15 years.

Kris Kobach, known liar, was able to convict nine people in Kansas out of 1.8 million registered voters. Again, with huge state resources and a whole staff dedicated to running the prosecutions. Kansas also has a bunch of illegals working in slaughterhouses in the western part of the state. If there was ever a place illegals voting could have an impact, it's way out there.

But nope, ruby red.

 

[dhdawg]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

it's almost as if we have studies on shit like this

 

[AZDuck]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

it's almost as if we have studies on shit like this

linked in this very thread, multiple times, even

 

[Pitchfork51]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

it's almost as if we have studies on shit like this

linked in this very thread, multiple times, even

Fake study bitch

 

[AZDuck]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

it's almost as if we have studies on shit like this

linked in this very thread, multiple times, even

Fake study bitch

which one was fake? There were like 50 of them

 

[Sledog]

Sad thing is, it's the Republicans always screaming about fake news yet they believe the fake news they want to hear.

Trump won the electoral college, but he lost the popular vote by over 2.8 million votes to Clinton. The president has blamed his popular vote loss on widespread voter fraud, but there is no evidence to support his claim. Still, a new Morning Consult/Politico poll found 47 percent of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote, while just 42 percent believe Clinton won. Overall, the poll found, 28 percent of voters believe Trump won the popular vote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-half-republicans-believe-trump-163011933.html

I thought we were talking about American airlines from the title.

Since you are back on voter fraud, that the lib states are absolutely refusing to cooperate tells me all I need to know.

 

[Sledog]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

In order to have evidence you need the desire to look for it which we all know the democrats don't [already proven false - all those people looking for voter fraud in numerous studies, task forces, etc.] . That in itself is a red flag [huh?]. In California you can register to vote without proof of citizenship and there are groups to exist to register illegals [I went to the SoS website and it said you need a CA license or ID card (requires birth certificate) and your SSN (requires US citizenship or green card)]

So, you are right in the most technical sense. Someone could present a green card and a CA license and vote. Problem is, they will be flashing red whenever the list gets checked, which it does. And then they would be subject to criminal penalties and deportation. Again, it's theoretically possible, but the folks who are looking for it haven't found a problem. So why are we looking to fix something that isn't broken?

If you don't have processes in place to ensure only legals vote you have another giant red flag, not red herring.
The process is the affidavit, sworn under penalty of perjury, that the person completing the application is a US citizen.

In Virginia we have proof and the Governor, a Clinton hack, won't cooperate with the Trump initiative to find out. Red flag, not herring
No, that's Kris Kobach, a known liar and suppressor of minority votes. Almost every state, including many Republican ones agree with Virginia and the Clinton hack

nationalreview.com/article/448098/virginia-voter-fraud-report-noncitizens-voted-illegally

Allegedly, 2,000 illegals voted at some point in the past. 6,000 illegals were registered to vote. Out of 5,000,000 registered voters and 4,000,000 voters in the last election. So the system seems to be working. It's a fringe problem, not a threat to our democracy.


When a party refuses to cooperate and just mouths shit about red herrings its a red flag.

Or, you know, someone making something out of nothing so they can keep the blicks and spacs from voting legally

When you lose the argument pull the race card

I live in California - you are wrong. In Virginia illegals signed the affidavit when they weren't legal

Why are you so interested in not investigating

Red flag

2,000 votes out of 4 million = CRISIS

Voter suppression is real

How many votes were suppressed? Oh there's that fake news belief system....

Prove you are a citizen when you register and then I.D. top vote. Easy shit.

Don't tell me poor people can't afford I.D. That's Mad Max and Nacny Pelosi stupid.

 

[doogie]

SacBee claims another 1,000,000 illegals set to vote
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article163623103.html

 

[AZDuck]

SacBee claims another 1,000,000 illegals set to vote
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article163623103.html

Fun fact: you need more than a driver's license to vote in California.

 

[creepycoug]

No one cares

Honestly, they don't. Just stop. So much fag, Hondo. So much fag.

Here, let me help.

The problem with this cuntry is as follows: all the stupid people of all viewpoints now have access to information, and the means by which to express their stupidity to a vast audience. These people, who comprise a very healthy majority of this cuntry, can now spread their stupid like a disease and easily find numerous others who are equally or more stupid and join forces.

THAT, my fren, is what's wrong with this cuntry. Liberal? Conservative? Libertarian? Socialist? Totalitarian? Playoffs?

Those are words for kids who were smart enough to get into Middlebury to throw around. The people to whom I refer herein are not anywhere near smart enough, educated enough, or motivated enough, to even recognize, much less adopt and consistently apply, a political, economic and/or moral philosophy. That takes a brain, and we? are among the most, if not the most, brain dead populous in the first world.

Creepy Bartholemew Coug out.

 

[creepycoug]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

My opinion? Sure, of course.

If you're smart enough to vote illegally and have it stick, you and your vote are good with me.

From too many years of being a fake lawyer, I have come to believe that paperwork and "legal" status and all that shit matter not one little bit.

Show me a scrappy Mexican who was ballzy enough to (1) get here, (2) feed himself, and (3) find a way to register his vote, and I'll show you a wet back that I want to keep here and take the place of a fat, macaroni 'n cheese eating, Grays Harbor dwelling, welfare taking, crack smoking, baby making piece of trash who doesn't vote anyway.

Chupa me la Pinga Maricon!

 

[doogie]

I couldn't help but notice the lack of brand named on the mac-n-cheese

 

[Pitchfork51]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

it's almost as if we have studies on shit like this

linked in this very thread, multiple times, even

Fake study bitch

which one was fake? There were like 50 of them

Every one you cite to push your freedom hating agenda.

You're practically a Viet cong

 

[PurpleThrobber]

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

My opinion? Sure, of course.

If you're smart enough to vote illegally and have it stick, you and your vote are good with me.

From too many years of being a fake lawyer, I have come to believe that paperwork and "legal" status and all that shit matter not one little bit.

Show me a scrappy Mexican who was ballzy enough to (1) get here, (2) feed himself, and (3) find a way to register his vote, and I'll show you a wet back that I want to keep here and take the place of a fat, macaroni 'n cheese eating, Grays Harbor dwelling, welfare taking, crack smoking, baby making piece of trash who doesn't vote anyway.

Chupa me la Pinga Maricon!

If he's that fucking motivated, why not apply for citizenship and quit breaking the law?