We shall see.
The "Jobless Boom" Is Here
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The worst thing we? did was tell kids to go into debt to go to college so they don't have to do yucky work like construction
The best thing I did was not go to college and to start at the bottom doing yucky construction work
The best thing I did was not go to college and to start at the bottom doing yucky construction work
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I actually think “learning to code” is more important than ever. Being able to spit out simple shit with Claude Code is like a business superpower.
I'm not anti college by the way. Just anti you HAVE to go
If you're dream requires it then be the best you can be
My mom wanted me to be a lawyer. Not really my thing though
Tech is interesting and obviously has worked out well for a lot of people
I've enjoyed their work. Except vanilla
If you're dream requires it then be the best you can be
My mom wanted me to be a lawyer. Not really my thing though
Tech is interesting and obviously has worked out well for a lot of people
I've enjoyed their work. Except vanilla
My wife works for Home Depot Corporate. Two weeks ago they laid off 800 people in Atlanta. 423 of them were IT.
They have already started the transformation.
Tyler Perry was going to expand his studio South of Atlanta by a couple hundred million in new construction. His management team met with an AI company who showed them that physical studios were a thing of the past. He scrapped the plans immediately.
This AI thing is going to hurt a lot of people in the short term. I am no expert but I am filled with common sense. AI is not a good thing.
I am bored in retirement so I thought I would get a couple day a week job at a private golf course as a golf bag handler. You make about $100 a day in tips and get free golf at this exclusive club. They required a resume. My wife showed me how to use AI to update and generate my resume. It took all of about 5 seconds and did a better job that I would have done. This is not a good thing. Students will not be doing their own work and have zero investment. I am sure some of you computer wizards will disagree and that is fine, but I see disaster ahead.
They have already started the transformation.
Tyler Perry was going to expand his studio South of Atlanta by a couple hundred million in new construction. His management team met with an AI company who showed them that physical studios were a thing of the past. He scrapped the plans immediately.
This AI thing is going to hurt a lot of people in the short term. I am no expert but I am filled with common sense. AI is not a good thing.
I am bored in retirement so I thought I would get a couple day a week job at a private golf course as a golf bag handler. You make about $100 a day in tips and get free golf at this exclusive club. They required a resume. My wife showed me how to use AI to update and generate my resume. It took all of about 5 seconds and did a better job that I would have done. This is not a good thing. Students will not be doing their own work and have zero investment. I am sure some of you computer wizards will disagree and that is fine, but I see disaster ahead.
AI is going to make white collar jobs disappear at an alarming rate. Already is, but it's been the coders. Your entry-level admin positions, etc are next. Health care - which is ripe for a massive reckoning because of its insane costs - is going to be a bloodbath for non-practitioners.
I'm pretty anti-college. They absolutely need a complete overhaul at this point. I also grew up in a town of rich kids that had no business going to college.
Both my kids are set up for it but have no problem using the money for other stuff.
Agree that entry level is in trouble. That's not mainly who I'm talking about though.
I started at the bottom of construction, realized I didn't want to be one of the guys with a broken back by 35, and it kicked my ass to go to school.
Now I'm the guy that everyone on the jobsite makes fun of for not doing any work. School was a lot easier than back breaking work for years just to make supervisor.
It's a serious advantage that I did both though. Not arguing, just sharing.
On the ai team at work. We already majorly scrapped all the big plans. Basically made a chat bot that helps with looking up the myriad of standards, rules, and regulations our designs must abide by. Basically a glorified matrix.
I agree ai is going to slim down the demand of employers for entry level employees. Ultimately for higher level employees it's just going to increase productivity.
Once upon a time PM's were literally managers with teams full of administrators and coordinators etc. With the computing age a lot of that went away and guys like Race and I could be one man bands though it meant more time was eaten by getting programs to do the admin work i.e. ms project
We are going to be able to get back to spending more time managing with a team of semi-retarded ai agents instead of a team of semi-retarded admins.
Agree re kids. My wife talks about scholarships for sports and I just laugh.
My kids have a fund, whether it gets used for college, a house down payment, or to start a business it will be fine.
The old model of college is going to get massively down sized for a plethora of reasons. Sure, a few disciplines and the literal meaning of "liberal arts" i.e. your family has enough money it doesn't matter what you study, will survive but it's going to return to being a more niche part of the labor pool.
No problem here. It took me less than 3 years to get kicked up to management
I definitely would not have been a lifer doing manual labor
It was easier to get kicked upstairs 45 years ago. College boys got beat up
I started running jobs as a helper and my boss at the time noticed. That was it
@RaceBannon was there!
I took a job at Bible school hanging drywall
Lasted 3 days
Fucking hard
Lasted 3 days
Fucking hard
I blame Trump for Obamacare.
I think your track, as I understand it, where you worked with sales/warehouse and learned the tools and how product and requirements translate to architecture is the best way to go.
Our people that start in support/sales/SE and show they can learn the tools has always been more fruitful. And that's the difference going forward. Nobody should go directly into engineering anymore. Hell, I don't even really think I did. Was more of 'heres our customer's problem build them something full stack. We're paying you 50k/year so that's reasonable right?'
That's why kids out of college today are so fucked when they go into private enterprise.
Regarding the Duck above, for every home depot you have a situation like Salesforce. Then you look at OpenAI projected to lose another cool 14-16 billion this year. It's a huge risk to assume your pittance toward codex is going to continue to be that way.
The thing with the resume stuff is true but the problem is if everyone is using it there is no advantage to it and it tends to create a bunch of fluff and is probably creating basically the same stuff for multiple people and like a lot of stuff AI writing works for, it's shit that doesn't matter anyway like bullets on a resume. It now can become a game where you are trying to convince an HR robot into accepting what you manipulated your robot into writing out for you.
I've also noticed the questions and tones of job interviews being abysmal since people started using AI. People are clearly just asking AI what questions should I ask in an interview for this job and their terrible.
I could write way too many paragraphs about AI with writing in general, but long story short it's fine if you're writing drek that no one is going to read anyway like corporate content or I guess those decommitment announcements college football players post and shit, but it has a Mount Everest peak to climb in creative writing and even research for creative writing.
Long story short, my look, vibe, and probably stance is similar to Ian Malcom/Crichton.
I have had occasion over the years to do some hiring and the secret is that I have never got past the first half of the first page of a resume before making my decision to ash can it or put in the maybe pile.
Yeah, I have read thousands of resume's and I never look at them more than once. They go into the go no-go files and during a face to face all I am looking at are personality and work ethic.