We need Jed to take a punch at some schmuck vs Purdue, it’s our only hope.
The Huskies are in the playoff race
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Call Eck right this fucking second.
creepycoug
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That's always my take. Coach hiring is a crapshoot. Never know where lighting will strike. Person, time and circumstance. Say it again.
Good coaches will consistently make teams better. But there's a reason everyone is in awe of Urbs doing it at a high level at three places. Super rare.
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ScratchGolfer
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Christ This thread has AIDS with colon cancer mixed with shingles
Tequilla
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Let's be clear Roady …
I don't give 2 shits about Jedd as a coach as to whether he's the guy or not … about the only thing that I'd say is that he's probably got better odds than whoever the next guy is
The issue today isn't about the coach … it's about the roster
When you've had 4 coaches in 6 years and you're looking at potentially having 5 in 7 years that's an absolute train wreck for roster stability and what that looks like going forward
My motivation has always been about not having the roster gutted
Tequilla
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In all seriousness I'm not sure if we can do much better as he's got as good of a chance as any at emerging from a rebuild in a good spot
I think people will likely be very underwhelmed at what is available if/when Jedd leaves
creepycoug
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The truth is, there is really no basis for guessing that Fisch's odds of succeeding are better than the next guy's. None of us really knows and there is only 'kind of' a formula, that being the guy who's won a lot at a lesser program, and even that one misses as often as it hits.
And it's always about the coach at least as much as it's about the roster with a few very, very narrow and rare exceptions.
And the roster stability thing is out the window with the new system.
I agree with you on one thing: you need a war chest in this game along with enthusiastic support from the admin.
I don't know if Fisch should be fired or not. I get paid to make other calls. But if he's not the guy, you don't string it along to salvage the roster.
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Tequilla
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@creepycoug
Let's play some hypotheticals here …
It probably doesn't matter if Fisch leaves after this year by choice or not … you're going to lose the balance of the roster regardless
I'll even agree with you that retaining a coach that you know isn't the guy is not a good long term strategy … see Penn State
But what I do think that you can agree with me on is that IF you lose the balance of your roster you need to be realizing that there is a heavy likelihood of at least a 2-3 year rebuild ahead
So if in Year 1 of the next coach that you go 3-9, I don't want to hear people already claiming that this coach isn't the guy when the roster isn't there …
And I don't want to hear in Year 2 if that coach goes 5-7 or 6-6 that he's clearly not the guy …
At some point you need to get out of the cycle of having coaches for a max of 2 years …
We're already at 4 coaches from 2019 forward (CP, Lake, DeBoer, Fisch) … if/when Fisch leaves we'll be at 5 coaches (not counting an interim coach) in less than 10 years. That's horrific
Let's play some hypotheticals here …
It probably doesn't matter if Fisch leaves after this year by choice or not … you're going to lose the balance of the roster regardless
I'll even agree with you that retaining a coach that you know isn't the guy is not a good long term strategy … see Penn State
But what I do think that you can agree with me on is that IF you lose the balance of your roster you need to be realizing that there is a heavy likelihood of at least a 2-3 year rebuild ahead
So if in Year 1 of the next coach that you go 3-9, I don't want to hear people already claiming that this coach isn't the guy when the roster isn't there …
And I don't want to hear in Year 2 if that coach goes 5-7 or 6-6 that he's clearly not the guy …
At some point you need to get out of the cycle of having coaches for a max of 2 years …
We're already at 4 coaches from 2019 forward (CP, Lake, DeBoer, Fisch) … if/when Fisch leaves we'll be at 5 coaches (not counting an interim coach) in less than 10 years. That's horrific
A good coach, wandering eyes or not, doesn’t lose this game today. The defense was fine, good even. It was Judds offense that was an abortion. Also, UW has had awful special teams for two years with two different coordinators. What’s the common denominator?
The old "who are you gonna get that's better?" argument was used a lot by those who would rather have kept Sark too.
If Fisch isn't the guy, whether because he'll leave or because he isn't a championship coach, when will be a good time to replace him?
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People have been trumpeting the schedule is really easy next year and in 2027, maybe a good Tim? Fusch squandered a ridiculously easy schedule this year already. We even got Ohio State at the best time to get them when they were just breaking in Sayin. We also get Oregon when they're banged up. Squandered though.
I somewhat agree with Tequilla about the roster. I would rather have Williams and see if he can develop with a better supporting crew, but I also hate that we are this bad on the road and think it’s a really bad sign of Fisch not being the guy.
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Seems like no schedule is easy when Hirsch is calling plays.
Also, not that anyone cares, the latest is that almost all the guys for Oregon out right now will be back sooner than later. Whatever sooner than later means. Only a couple of season enders.
Losing 4 dudes within 2 days of Iowa, or in the game itself, was bad news bears, especially when(on the season) 4 are at 1 position and all 5(preseason WR1) guys out were on one side of the ball. Imagine losing 4 dudes at LB or DL or DB or OL or QB. You're gonna lose every game.
No excuses. Reasons. Oregon has been an extremely healthy team until now.
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Atmosphere at the Oregon game will be flat unless Chudd’s team team plays inspired the next 2 weeks. I know I don’t currently give a fuck.
That's been the only upshot of this all .. I've been waiting to buy tickets (or not) for the Dick game.
creepycoug
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You always go to a rivalry game and/or care. That's non-negotiable.
Some seasons you? play for BONEM and some seasons they? play for BWNEM. That's how heated rivalries work my freng.
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creepycoug
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I partially agree, Rodie. One, it's hard to say who leaves. Depends on where he goes and who replaces him and who throws money around. Two, it's not that hard to pick up new dudes. Even Cristobal is pretty adept at it, having several really nice pickups last two cycles. If that shit brain can do it, ….
The dude has won one conference game on the road, by the skin of his teeth against a team that is 1-5 in conference, in two fucking years. That dog won't hunt.
Williams. You guys are in love with that kid. He's a talent but not a bet the program talent. If he goes, he goes. What's Washington's record with him under center anyway? He wasn't even the QB for Washington's best win the last two seasons. When he becomes Kyler Murray then it's time to make moves.
Time to tarmac Fisch. Schwack him.
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I was pretty happy to not be at that rainy ass Jimmy lake calls a punt Oregon game a few years ago.
