ScratchGolfer
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zero chance
The Huskies are in the playoff race
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I understand and appreciate your points here. But the “abundance of jobs” out there shows how much money is being wasted on shitty to mediocre coaches.
Beta loser stuff was UW not making a major league attempt to sign DeBoer.
I noted in a post last year that DeBoer said it was nice to be at a place (Alabama) where winning was taken seriously. I took it as a swipe at UW. Other than that, I've never heard of any other indication.
Tequilla
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@YellowSnow
You'll never get me to say that the money getting thrown around in college football is a good use of money or makes any kind of business sense
For many of these programs this type of money is a tax write-off and/or a source of dick measuring amongst elitists
I think what you're bringing up (how deep of waters do you want to get in playing the current game) is valid …
But what I'd respond with is that the rules of the game are what they are at this point …
Not playing the game has some obvious problematic issues to it
Playing the game means throwing around some Monopoly money
Getting some form of control over this insanity is needed in general …
But until this day comes you're either in or you're out …
It's probably a rare instance where Race and I would agree in terms of "show me" through your actions with money
You'll never get me to say that the money getting thrown around in college football is a good use of money or makes any kind of business sense
For many of these programs this type of money is a tax write-off and/or a source of dick measuring amongst elitists
I think what you're bringing up (how deep of waters do you want to get in playing the current game) is valid …
But what I'd respond with is that the rules of the game are what they are at this point …
Not playing the game has some obvious problematic issues to it
Playing the game means throwing around some Monopoly money
Getting some form of control over this insanity is needed in general …
But until this day comes you're either in or you're out …
It's probably a rare instance where Race and I would agree in terms of "show me" through your actions with money
Tequilla
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@DerekJohnson
Only those tied into the negotiations know how serious UW was in their attempts to keep KDB and how open KDB was to staying
A lot probably also depends on how much of a heads-up KDB had that Alabama was on the table and at what point that was the case
I've stated on numerous instances that I had it communicated to me that "all will be fine if we can sign Coach to a contract" from someone inside the program entering November of 2023. At the time I took that to mean that we needed to come up with a number that made sense. In hindsight I took that to be more reflective of whether he was even open to staying.
For as much as people here want to skewer Fisch for his job hopping (and it's a fair criticism) … that same criticism is also a fair one to have on KDB.
I don't think anybody knows what exactly the number would have been to keep KDB here … if that was even possible (which those that want to skewer the AD for KDB leaving fail to acknowledge as a possibility).
What I do think makes a lot of sense is to say that anything at comparable money to Alabama was almost certainly have KDB leaving for Alabama.
I also think when having this conversation that it has to be called out that UW is getting a 1/2 share of B10 revenues in the short- to mid-term (anticipated full-share date is the 2030-2031 athletic year) and big picture doesn't have as rich or funded of an athletic department that Alabama has. IF this was going to turn into a bidding war it was a battle that UW was ill equipped to win.
I don't really know what the disdain for not keeping DeBoer and by default hating Fisch for not being DeBoer is getting you and others.
The irony is that there's a very real chance that Fisch will be living in a similar manner to that of DeBoer and there will be a celebration for not caving to keep Fisch all the while we hire a coach that has far more questions than Fisch and the balance of the roster gets gutted (again) and the new coach likely doesn't have the ability to restock the roster in the short-term with anything close to what went out the door.
Only those tied into the negotiations know how serious UW was in their attempts to keep KDB and how open KDB was to staying
A lot probably also depends on how much of a heads-up KDB had that Alabama was on the table and at what point that was the case
I've stated on numerous instances that I had it communicated to me that "all will be fine if we can sign Coach to a contract" from someone inside the program entering November of 2023. At the time I took that to mean that we needed to come up with a number that made sense. In hindsight I took that to be more reflective of whether he was even open to staying.
For as much as people here want to skewer Fisch for his job hopping (and it's a fair criticism) … that same criticism is also a fair one to have on KDB.
I don't think anybody knows what exactly the number would have been to keep KDB here … if that was even possible (which those that want to skewer the AD for KDB leaving fail to acknowledge as a possibility).
What I do think makes a lot of sense is to say that anything at comparable money to Alabama was almost certainly have KDB leaving for Alabama.
I also think when having this conversation that it has to be called out that UW is getting a 1/2 share of B10 revenues in the short- to mid-term (anticipated full-share date is the 2030-2031 athletic year) and big picture doesn't have as rich or funded of an athletic department that Alabama has. IF this was going to turn into a bidding war it was a battle that UW was ill equipped to win.
I don't really know what the disdain for not keeping DeBoer and by default hating Fisch for not being DeBoer is getting you and others.
The irony is that there's a very real chance that Fisch will be living in a similar manner to that of DeBoer and there will be a celebration for not caving to keep Fisch all the while we hire a coach that has far more questions than Fisch and the balance of the roster gets gutted (again) and the new coach likely doesn't have the ability to restock the roster in the short-term with anything close to what went out the door.
Tequilla
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UW is a proud and successful college football program on the whole when you look at history
Alabama is the bluest of the blue bloods, is a national brand, and is THE team for an entire state.
If your upset because UW isn't Alabama … I'm not sure what to tell you
You could have unlimited access to money in the short-term and I'm not sure that that's even enough to shift that barrier or perspective
JaWarrenJaHooker
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stability matters or it doesn’t. Who can even tell at this point. Win now.
who has money and who wants to win. Fire fisch or fisch leaves. Until he wins the conference who gives a fuck
who has money and who wants to win. Fire fisch or fisch leaves. Until he wins the conference who gives a fuck
Speaking of beta losers…what a load of diarrhea of the mouth by teq
Thank you for keeping it brief
I don't really know what the disdain for not keeping DeBoer and by default hating Fisch for not being DeBoer is getting you and others.
Of course you understand. As I have stated several times, the disdain was not in making a balls-to-the-wall effort to keep DeBoer. I have repeatedly said that ultimately we don't know if there was a possibility or not. The failure is in the not going major league in the effort to retain him. Secondly, I have never said that I hate Fisch. I have said that I consider him a bit of a used car salesman. I have found his in-game decisions wanting. If he beats Oregon and gets into the playoffs and then signs a nice extension at UW, then I'd be glad about it and would acknowledge my judgment of him was wrong. But all of that ain't happening.
I have a hard time with the monopoly money theory. Every program is begging the fans for NIL, trying to fill seats, and bending over backwards for TV revenue. I can't compute that with the money not mattering and with that in mind I have to wonder if these insane buyouts and poor monetary choices will bite schools when it comes to buying players or hiring the next HC
Somehow I didn't see this post the first time through. This nails it in a nutshell.
Again, I agree with the idea that if you lose Jedd, next year will probably suck regardless of who we can hire. But I also don't like making rash decisions from a place of fear over abundance of openings hypotheticals. If we get to 9-2, I'm willing to entertain upping Jedd's package.
We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
I'm just hoping we actually get to 9-2, so we can play out some of these scenarios.
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@DerekJohnson will "2025 Washington Huskies - Retarded Par Putt Team of Destiny" fit on a beer goblet?I'm just hoping we actually get to 9-2, so we can play out some of these scenarios.
Didn't Fickel go 6-6 at THE Ohio State when Trestle got fired over the free player tats? I think that's closest to the real Fickel.
Cincinnati got fat from beating up Tulsa, Tulane, and Navy.
But you can't expect to win in Madison when it's under 50 degrees. You just can't.
Cincinnati got fat from beating up Tulsa, Tulane, and Navy.
But you can't expect to win in Madison when it's under 50 degrees. You just can't.
I think almost all Little 12 teams are very beatable, except BYU, in Provo.
With top ten talent and depth, sure.
This team got manhandled by a not elite Michigan team.