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Russia is neutered and willing to cut deals to survive. We? don't want them ending up as North Korea 2 and a client state of China.
Sucks for the Ukrainians but they had their chance to win back territory and their leadership did a piss poor job along with Biden slow walking aid.
Edit: I'll add the euros to blame for sitting on their hands for 3 years and expecting the US to foot the bill while playing footsie with China.
Reality of realpolitik, signed the actual realpolitik hawk of the bored.
Nations only ever have interests not friends.
 
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Why do we always have to fund everything?

I'd have been fine giving them 30 billion, if they had spent it properly and not on Rolls Royces and jewelry for the general's wives with fake tits.
 
How much has the US given to Ukraine?
It looks like we loaned 40% and granted 60%. It should have been more loans than grants. Authorized by Congress. In WWII we loaned to the UK which was effectively broke by the early 40s. They finally paid off loans a few years ago.
 
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Why do we always have to fund everything?

I'd have been fine giving them 30 billion, if they had spent it properly and not on Rolls Royces and jewelry for the general's wives with fake tits.
Would be a huge help if Z knew where half the money the US gave him went.
Tell the money laundering weasel to go find it.
 
well they got the green light to rape pretty much everyone

So if you’re an incel like HH and co it was a pretty good deal
 
On Croatian Television channel 4. Vladimir Putin was allowed to speak.

He addressed the Europeans: "Russia has never been and will never be your enemy!

We do not want European raw materials and wealth, we have our own raw materials and wealth, we absolutely do not need your raw materials. Russia is the richest country in the world in terms of raw materials.

We do not want your land or your territory. Look at how wide Russia is on the map. Russia is twice the size of the whole of Europe in one place. What would we need your land for, what do we do with it?

Why do you think Russia is an enemy of Europe? What damage has Russia done to you?

Have we sold you gas and raw materials at lower prices than the prices at which your "friends" are currently selling you? YES

Did Russia sacrifice 20 million people in World War II to get rid of the Nazis? YES

Was Russia the first country to help Europe during the Covid pandemic? YES

Did we help Europe when there were fires and natural disasters? YES

What has Russia done to you that you hate it so much?

Russia is not your enemy; your real enemies are your leaders, those who lead you!”

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True, but I’m not going to fall for that WW2 bullshit. Russia was on the German side until Hitler’s dumbass turned on Russia and invaded them. Russia then “donated” 2 million troops, because they had to. Again, because they were being invaded. A 50/50 deal is Russia gives back the land it took from February 2022 on, but keeps Crimea. With Ukraine, they can’t join NATO. Not hard.

But but but, the destruction…

Yep, expensive lesson learned. Next time Ukraine, don’t poke the fucking bear.
 
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Facts from 85 years ago are irrelevant today. You're not even analyzing the right fucking country. There's a reason the Dazzler got his name. You're moving into that territory.
Maybe Literally Hitler fits because that appears to be the basis of what you are trying to oppose in Russia.
Walk the fucking safety up again.
Speeches on Croatian teevee is a lot like the Twitter/Nazi Reichstag.
You can say any shit you want and your partisans, i.e., today's pro-Russia GOP, will circulate it.
If one wanted to hear a foreign leader's owen words about any event, where would you recommend they go to find that information?

It seems like "don't look at all" is the prevailing wisdom. N'est-ce pas?

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I'm sure Mein Kampf is readily available.
 
Mein Kampf: The socialist/fascist bible. Says it right on the cover. Just like the kkk/antifa are democrat brown boots.
The attempts by the weak minded libs on here to attach Trump to hitler are ridiculous and sophomoric. Just what you would expect from them. When they try to falsely align Trump to Russia, all I can think of is biden and hunter selling influence to the russians, chinese and ukrainians.
If rats are falsely accusing you of doing something, odds are it is they who are doing it.
 
On Croatian Television channel 4. Vladimir Putin was allowed to speak.

He addressed the Europeans: "Russia has never been and will never be your enemy!

We do not want European raw materials and wealth, we have our own raw materials and wealth, we absolutely do not need your raw materials. Russia is the richest country in the world in terms of raw materials.

We do not want your land or your territory. Look at how wide Russia is on the map. Russia is twice the size of the whole of Europe in one place. What would we need your land for, what do we do with it?

Why do you think Russia is an enemy of Europe? What damage has Russia done to you?

Have we sold you gas and raw materials at lower prices than the prices at which your "friends" are currently selling you? YES

Did Russia sacrifice 20 million people in World War II to get rid of the Nazis? YES

Was Russia the first country to help Europe during the Covid pandemic? YES

Did we help Europe when there were fires and natural disasters? YES

What has Russia done to you that you hate it so much?

Russia is not your enemy; your real enemies are your leaders, those who lead you!”

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True, but I’m not going to fall for that WW2 bullshit. Russia was on the German side until Hitler’s dumbass turned on Russia and invaded them. Russia then “donated” 2 million troops, because they had to. Again, because they were being invaded. A 50/50 deal is Russia gives back the land it took from February 2022 on, but keeps Crimea. With Ukraine, they can’t join NATO. Not hard.

But but but, the destruction…

Yep, expensive lesson learned. Next time Ukraine, don’t poke the fucking bear.
They also occupied half of Europe for the next 50 years as vassal states so.
 
Mein Kampf: The socialist/fascist bible. Says it right on the cover. Just like the kkk/antifa are democrat brown boots.
The attempts by the weak minded libs on here to attach Trump to hitler are ridiculous and sophomoric. Just what you would expect from them. When they try to falsely align Trump to Russia, all I can think of is biden and hunter selling influence to the russians, chinese and ukrainians.
If rats are falsely accusing you of doing something, odds are it is they who are doing it.
If only Oregon had had a history department when you attended.
 
Mein Kampf: The socialist/fascist bible. Says it right on the cover. Just like the kkk/antifa are democrat brown boots.
The attempts by the weak minded libs on here to attach Trump to hitler are ridiculous and sophomoric. Just what you would expect from them. When they try to falsely align Trump to Russia, all I can think of is biden and hunter selling influence to the russians, chinese and ukrainians.
If rats are falsely accusing you of doing something, odds are it is they who are doing it.
If only Oregon had had a history department when you attended.
They did and I’m sure you’ll be happy to hear that this was was the cover sheet for the syllabus.

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On Croatian Television channel 4. Vladimir Putin was allowed to speak.

He addressed the Europeans: "Russia has never been and will never be your enemy!

We do not want European raw materials and wealth, we have our own raw materials and wealth, we absolutely do not need your raw materials. Russia is the richest country in the world in terms of raw materials.

We do not want your land or your territory. Look at how wide Russia is on the map. Russia is twice the size of the whole of Europe in one place. What would we need your land for, what do we do with it?

Why do you think Russia is an enemy of Europe? What damage has Russia done to you?

Have we sold you gas and raw materials at lower prices than the prices at which your "friends" are currently selling you? YES

Did Russia sacrifice 20 million people in World War II to get rid of the Nazis? YES

Was Russia the first country to help Europe during the Covid pandemic? YES

Did we help Europe when there were fires and natural disasters? YES

What has Russia done to you that you hate it so much?

Russia is not your enemy; your real enemies are your leaders, those who lead you!”

.

True, but I’m not going to fall for that WW2 bullshit. Russia was on the German side until Hitler’s dumbass turned on Russia and invaded them. Russia then “donated” 2 million troops, because they had to. Again, because they were being invaded. A 50/50 deal is Russia gives back the land it took from February 2022 on, but keeps Crimea. With Ukraine, they can’t join NATO. Not hard.

But but but, the destruction…

Yep, expensive lesson learned. Next time Ukraine, don’t poke the fucking bear.
They also occupied half of Europe for the next 50 years as vassal states so.
Europe occupied Africa, India and America for a couple hundred years too.
History is a nice guide but the variables of the past are not the same as the present.
As we learned that during the Spanish Flu Covid.
I believe you used the phrase 'interests'. National interests change.
 
Fuck vanilla @PurpleThrobber
The point was Russia didn't altruistically sacrifice themselves in WW2.
They were an axis aligned aggressor until the Germans betrayed them.
Then afterwards they were an occupying force that did everything they could to oppress the people in those states.
There was never any "liberation" to be thankful for.
 
Fuck vanilla @PurpleThrobber
The point was Russia didn't altruistically sacrifice themselves in WW2.
They were an axis aligned aggressor until the Germans betrayed them.
Then afterwards they were an occupying force that did everything they could to oppress the people in those states.
There was never any "liberation" to be thankful for.
The occupied were fucked either way.
 
Fuck vanilla @PurpleThrobber
The point was Russia didn't altruistically sacrifice themselves in WW2.
They were an axis aligned aggressor until the Germans betrayed them.
Then afterwards they were an occupying force that did everything they could to oppress the people in those states.
There was never any "liberation" to be thankful for.
The occupied were fucked either way.

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The Gulags were good post of the day.
 
Fuck vanilla @PurpleThrobber
The point was Russia didn't altruistically sacrifice themselves in WW2.
They were an axis aligned aggressor until the Germans betrayed them.
Then afterwards they were an occupying force that did everything they could to oppress the people in those states.
There was never any "liberation" to be thankful for.
Point of order. According to the seminal "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", Stalin knew the German's were likely to betray him so he used this "alignment" as buying time to build up his military forces for the inevitable confrontation.

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In 2025 it is possible that Russia, for all its faults, represents a better partner for the US than Europe
And all the screaming banshees going RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA shouldn't stop us from considering it
Russia isn't committing cultural suicide like most of the west. Europe is going full authoritarian and canceling elections to save democracy and jailing folks for memes
If everyone is bad then chose what is best for the US. And it puts China on the defensive. Canada and a lot of Europe are bought and paid for by China - the real threat to the US
 
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