OFFICIAL Make America Healthy Again Game Thread - Featuring Dr Anthony Chaffee

[pawz]

Here's an interesting clinical trial:

Herbert Roger Morris
 (July 16, 1915 – July 22, 2009) - 94

Charles Ward Day
 (October 19, 1914 – May 26, 1962) - 47 (lung cancer - heavy smoker)

Gordon Belgum Adam
 (May 26, 1915 – March 27, 1992) - 77

John Galbraith White
 (May 16, 1916 – March 16, 1997) -81

James Burge McMillin
 (March 8, 1914 – August 22, 2005) - 91

George Elwood Hunt Jr.
 (August 1, 1916 – September 3, 1999) - 83

Joseph Harry Rantz
 (March 31, 1914 – September 10, 2007) - 93

Donald Bruce Hume
 (July 25, 1915 – September 16, 2001) - 86

I’m not following. Please advise.

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[whlinder]

I often say that doctors need significantly more training in psychology and sales (communication) to convince their patients to actually do what they need to do. It's the only way to overcome people wanting easy which doesn't last.

I spoke with a doctor yesterday. I offered a handful of alternative therapies. All poo poo’d for his much more (literally) toxic and grossly expensive approach. And the solution is he needs to sell better?

With all due respect I think that misses the mark when it comes to discussing efficaciousness of complex problems.

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This is hardcore Husky. No one is due any respect.
I have no idea what specific ailment/issue you’re trying to get right. From extensive personal experience I am referring to the issues that doctors have convincing patients to eat somewhat healthy and exercise to control diabetes and blood pressure.

 

[YellowSnow]

@YellowSnow

#FuckVanilla

I don't know. Maybe John Dutton could fund the clinical trials.
Neither one of my recent several PCPs have been pill pushers. Both are strong athletes who eat extremely clean. One even recommended an herbal supplement which I take cause why not.

I think you are lucky vs the norm.

One layman’s opinion.

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But I could find next year I have colon cancer or some other bad luck life surprise. I'm still supposed to call the doc's to schedule the corn hole snaking.
Yes, I am "lucky" vs the norm. I was raised by fitness focused father and was able to get into skiing and mt biking at young age. I get to work from home and live in an outdoor exercise wonderland.
But regardless of background, almost anyone is going to benefit from getting some physical activity. Sedentary lifestyle + SAD is the root of all of our problems.

 

[YellowSnow]

Here's an interesting clinical trial:

Herbert Roger Morris
 (July 16, 1915 – July 22, 2009) - 94

Charles Ward Day
 (October 19, 1914 – May 26, 1962) - 47 (lung cancer - heavy smoker)

Gordon Belgum Adam
 (May 26, 1915 – March 27, 1992) - 77

John Galbraith White
 (May 16, 1916 – March 16, 1997) -81

James Burge McMillin
 (March 8, 1914 – August 22, 2005) - 91

George Elwood Hunt Jr.
 (August 1, 1916 – September 3, 1999) - 83

Joseph Harry Rantz
 (March 31, 1914 – September 10, 2007) - 93

Donald Bruce Hume
 (July 25, 1915 – September 16, 2001) - 86

I’m not following. Please advise.

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Lifespans of the 8 Boys in the Boat.

 

[pawz]

I often say that doctors need significantly more training in psychology and sales (communication) to convince their patients to actually do what they need to do. It's the only way to overcome people wanting easy which doesn't last.

I spoke with a doctor yesterday. I offered a handful of alternative therapies. All poo poo’d for his much more (literally) toxic and grossly expensive approach. And the solution is he needs to sell better?

With all due respect I think that misses the mark when it comes to discussing efficaciousness of complex problems.

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This is hardcore Husky. No one is due any respect.
I have no idea what specific ailment/issue you’re trying to get right. From extensive personal experience I am referring to the issues that doctors have convincing patients to eat somewhat healthy and exercise to control diabetes and blood pressure.

I pay respect to all row boat Guysm.

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[YellowSnow]

I often say that doctors need significantly more training in psychology and sales (communication) to convince their patients to actually do what they need to do. It's the only way to overcome people wanting easy which doesn't last.

I spoke with a doctor yesterday. I offered a handful of alternative therapies. All poo poo’d for his much more (literally) toxic and grossly expensive approach. And the solution is he needs to sell better?

With all due respect I think that misses the mark when it comes to discussing efficaciousness of complex problems.

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This is hardcore Husky. No one is due any respect.
I have no idea what specific ailment/issue you’re trying to get right. From extensive personal experience I am referring to the issues that doctors have convincing patients to eat somewhat healthy and exercise to control diabetes and blood pressure.

I pay respect to all row boat Guysm.

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Here's a pic of those guys in 1986 (50th anniversary) when they were in their early 70s and still took the Husky Clipper out for a spin every ten year.
No obesity. No mobility scooters. Great muscle mass. The could all still take a boat out and row it around in their early 70s.

 

[whlinder]

For reference, the whlinder T1 Diabeetus diet:
Breakfast

• Two cups coffee, w/ half and half
• 1 cup (measured out) of greek yogurt, mixed Costco fat free organic with a 2% version w/ vanilla usually
• OR 2 eggs cooked in olive oil over easy
• Banana

That's 6-7 times per week
Lunch

• ~2/3 cups of nuts, typically walnuts but can be mixed
• OR ~2/3 cup of peanut butter, eaten straight
• Apple

Usually 5 times per week unless swapped out for leftovers. Weekends I eat other stuff.
Dinner varies but always try to reduce the carb intake. YOLO so am much less strict and eat meat and other fun stuff then, along with vegetables.

 

[YellowSnow]

For reference, the whlinder T1 Diabeetus diet:
Breakfast
That's 6-7 times per week
Lunch
Usually 5 times per week unless swapped out for leftovers. Weekends I eat other stuff.
Dinner varies but always try to reduce the carb intake. YOLO so am much less strict and eat meat and other fun stuff then, along with vegetables.

I'd starve to death!! But I like it.

 

[whlinder]

When you sit at a desk for 8 hours you don't burn much… The nuts is a best guess since I usually eyeball that, it might be more, but there are 200 calories in 1/4 cup of walnuts.
It is all to support caloric excess at dinner and when golfing

 

[RaceBannon]

I walk less back in the shitty NW but I cut down to one meal several years ago to drop almost 50 pounds and found it is a good thing with less exercise. Still seeing some weight creep
I'm 5-11 and at 160 I feel great. Could fight Roberto Duran

 

[YellowSnow]

I walk less back in the shitty NW but I cut down to one meal several years ago to drop almost 50 pounds and found it is a good thing with less exercise. Still seeing some weight creep
I'm 5-11 and at 160 I feel great. Could fight Roberto Duran

 

[RaceBannon]

I'm a tad over 170 at the moment. Weight creep
Light Heavyweight.

 

[YellowSnow]

I'm a tad over 170 at the moment. Weight creep
Light Heavyweight.

You don't wanna meet the 6'6" 210lb heavy weight division at Seven Eleven, boss. You just don't!

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Since we’re sharing, 5-9, 442 lbs. This thread has motivated me to drop some excess weight! Thanks Pawz!

 

[YellowSnow]

@pawz #FuckVanilla
Can you define what you mean by "natural remedy"?
I agree that western medicine has a major issue with profit motive, and that it is also focused on symptom → treatment instead of holistic treatment.
Nutrition education aside, doctors know damn well that eating healthier and exercising more are the first two things that 90%+ of their patients need to do and would prevent or reduce many of the ailments they are tasked to treat. How many Americans want to do that? How many actually do? We can debate specifically what eating healthy means but I think we can all agree the current SAD can be easily improved upon.

Holistic would have been a better word than natural. Pardon my late night musings.

I spoke w a GI doctor once who told me I needed to change my diet. I was legitimately open to what he had to say. He was Indian (dot) so I thought he might be about to impart some auyervedic wisdom. No chance. He slid a piece of paper at me with the food pyramid and the four food groups - SAD. I left in disgust as I already knew I couldn’t eat half that shit.

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You should try one of Yella's morning smoothies:
Frozen organic berries (not too much - don't wanna get diabetes)
Banana
A bit of OJ (not too much - don't wanna get diabetes)
Chia Seeds - one of nature's greatest super foods
Bunch of Power Greens
Scoop of whey protein powder (24 grams of protein)
Some Greek Yogurt

Once fruit touches the blender it increases the hypoglycemic index by 4x. With that said, I still choose the antioxidant benefits of dark berries in small amounts.

I include power greens, chia seeds, a protein powder, various mushrooms and other supplements.

I usually take the yogurt, cottage cheese probiotics separately.

*Disappointed to find out the protein powder I bought from WF and like is now owned by Nestle. Will be shopping for another option.

I hear you on the glycemic piece. But I like the nutrient density part. I’m eating a lot sugar otherwise throughout the day.

What’s the knock on nestle if the protein product is good ?

 

[pawz]

@YellowSnow #FuckVanilla

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Nutrient density should have been included with antioxidant benefits. We are in agreement.

Without getting into any specific sins of Nestle, I generally don't trust multi-national food conglomerates. I don't trust them for a second to add weird and/or addictive chemicals and preservatives to the mix. Let's be honest about the fact Nestle mostly sells ultra processed food stuffs. They got their start selling sugar (chocolate).

https://www.nestle.com/brands/brandssearchlist

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[whlinder]

6’4” 205 right now. In 2024 have fluctuated between 199 and 210. Working to keep it sub 205 going forward.

 

[YellowSnow]

@YellowSnow #FuckVanilla

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Nutrient density should have been included with antioxidant benefits. We are in agreement.

Without getting into any specific sins of Nestle, I generally don't trust multi-national food conglomerates. I don't trust them for a second to add weird and/or addictive chemicals and preservatives to the mix. Let's be honest about the fact Nestle mostly sells ultra processed food stuffs. They got their start selling sugar (chocolate).

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Sounds like you not a real Half Brain since Nestle owns Hot Pockets!
They also own Dreyer's which is a major donor to Cal Row Boat and Cal athletics in general.

 

[pawz]

I yam what I yam.

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[pawz]

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