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OFFICIAL Make America Healthy Again Game Thread - Featuring Dr Anthony Chaffee
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Pure carnivore is a type of magic bullet. But it can be difficult to stick to if one is addicted to coffee or any type of sweets, even non-sugar.
I have started pan-searing my steaks with beef tallow. It's great not just because it's healthier but also because it has a high heat tolerance without smoking. I can get the cast iron up to 500 degrees without smoke and its fantastic for generating a crust.
Can you expand on what pure carnivore means exactly? At a high level what are the parameters and food included?
Pure anything sounds sketchy
I actually went vegan for 6 months in California due to my smoking hot assistant being vegan
Lot of fucking work to get protein when you can just grill a steak
Moderation in all things
I know that Al Michaels says he never eats vegetables
I actually went vegan for 6 months in California due to my smoking hot assistant being vegan
Lot of fucking work to get protein when you can just grill a steak
Moderation in all things
I know that Al Michaels says he never eats vegetables
Towards the end of my time in the Army I went in for a doctors appointment. They took my blood pressure and said it was high. Had me go back 2-3 times to recheck. High each time. I was shocked. Still in pretty shape and no family history of high blood pressure.
After the follow ups, the clinic sent me to the hospital for another appointment and likely a prescription for blood pressure meds. As with every appointment, they check my blood pressure. After the nurse does it, she says yeah it’s high. As she does, I’m bending my arm and she says “oh, your arms are bigger than I thought” I joke, “thanks for noticing, I’ve been working out.”
She says, “we use different size blood pressure cuffs that are color coded. I used the medium size on you and that will throw off the reading. I need to recheck this.”
Sure enough, blood pressure was just fine.
Moral of the story, double check things when a doc wants to put you on meds.
Mrs Nacho cooks really healthy foods for us but I love to eat. I finally was able to cut out dinner 2-4 times a week. That started in July and I’m down 10lbs. (482 to 472).
Blood pressure readings are something I always take with a grain of salt (pun intended). Last visit to the dentist they put something on my finger that said my BP was 150/90. Had a regular doctor checkup a few days later and it was 120/80.
I think there has to be a healthy skepticism of "magic bullet" diets like keto or pure carnivore. Some folks might see some short terms gains with weight loss, but these diets seems pretty risky in the long term.
Man is an omnivore evolved over millions of years to eat plants and animal proteins.
Anything to excess (fat, sugar, alcohol) is a bad idea. All things in moderation.
Sticking an unhealthy person (which is 75% of Americans at this point) on any kind of fad diet will work because they're forced to cut out a bunch of shit foods and drinks. At a certain point the gains (or losses) stop. There is no way eating nothing but meat 24/7 is good for you in the long run. I've seen a couple of people drop a lot of weight on specific diets and when they transitioned off the diet they had gallbladder problems which required surgical removal, as well as other weird blood testing issues.
It also becomes very challenging to ascribe changes in health outcomes to one single variable when there are so many variables involved, as well as which health outcome to measure against.
I'm sure eating "pure carnivore" can lead to weight loss and other positive outcomes if it is replacing a crap diet. That makes it less bad, not necessarily good. The measurement is not against crap, it is against healthy balanced diets.
I will state that for me personally, who probably has more data about his health outcomes than anyone here (full bloodwork 2x per year, realtime blood sugar readings), I have experienced higher LDL cholesterol measurements when eating more meat (bacon in particular) over a multi-month time period. My diet is fairly strict and repetitive for at least half of the 21 weekly meals and when we got into a bacon habit for a while, that LDL definitely bumped up. After shutting that down the LDL went back down.
I would be very challenged to accept a suggestion that I should eliminate the 3-5 servings of fruits & veggies and the 1-2 services of nuts/legumes that I eat each day and replace it with pure meat and that I will somehow improve all of my numbers (LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, BP, A1C, weight, kidney protein measurements, body fat). All my shit is where it is supposed to be to be healthy, so there better be some serious data to suggest purely meats.
Good little 6 min segment here from Dr. Peter Attia on VO2 Max being King. Strength is 2nd place.
VO2 max chart for those who don't care enough to go to get tested on a treadmill with the Bain mask.
A Good VO2max Charts by: Age, Gender, Sport and Athlete Fitness
And how to calculate it without getting a formal test done.
Understanding VO2 max | Parkview Health
Yella may have better sources, but all this talk about VO2 max motivated me to try to learn about it in 5 minutes or less. Looks like I fall under "Good" for my age range. Based on the methodology, it seems that the only way you can increase your VO2 max number is by reducing your resting heart rate (which is where the exercise comes in).
A Good VO2max Charts by: Age, Gender, Sport and Athlete Fitness
And how to calculate it without getting a formal test done.
Understanding VO2 max | Parkview Health
Yella may have better sources, but all this talk about VO2 max motivated me to try to learn about it in 5 minutes or less. Looks like I fall under "Good" for my age range. Based on the methodology, it seems that the only way you can increase your VO2 max number is by reducing your resting heart rate (which is where the exercise comes in).
You guys are trying too hard. This was all laid out for us decades ago.
It turned out to be an amazing weight loss system for me. All I needed was this pyramid and 10-15 years of undiagnosed diabetes. I went from a strong, energetic 200lbs with a 34" waist and hulking legs to my current 160 stick figure and no energy. All while putting away 3-4000 calories per day from the bottom of the pyramid. At the peak, just before my kidneys started to go, I was eating enough for three men and still losing weight. I couldn't stop eating. It all went in one en and right out the other so it was fun too.
I was lucky I didn't die. That's really what was happening. The day I found out I was diabetic my blood sugar was over 600. Instead of a reading my new meter gave a code indicating I should go to the ER.
That was about 15 years ago. The challenge since has been keeping my weight low, and I do, while trying to regain some of that lost muscle mass, which I haven't.
It turned out to be an amazing weight loss system for me. All I needed was this pyramid and 10-15 years of undiagnosed diabetes. I went from a strong, energetic 200lbs with a 34" waist and hulking legs to my current 160 stick figure and no energy. All while putting away 3-4000 calories per day from the bottom of the pyramid. At the peak, just before my kidneys started to go, I was eating enough for three men and still losing weight. I couldn't stop eating. It all went in one en and right out the other so it was fun too.
I was lucky I didn't die. That's really what was happening. The day I found out I was diabetic my blood sugar was over 600. Instead of a reading my new meter gave a code indicating I should go to the ER.
That was about 15 years ago. The challenge since has been keeping my weight low, and I do, while trying to regain some of that lost muscle mass, which I haven't.
I came here to make the AIDS joke. Glad someone else said it first, though.
Nah it's type 2. 15 years was the estimate the opthalmologist gave me based on the damage to my retinas.
I was oblivious to many warning signs including a family history of type 2. Really dumb. My 30s were a dark time for personal health as I was wrapped up trying (failing) to be the greatest single dad ever.
When the weight loss thing was getting really bad I used to chuckle about the HIV tag I had at doogman because I was seriously wondering wtf was going on. It took a lot to get me to go to the doctor. Nowadays I see him so often we know each other's kid's names and occupations and he calls me for fishing tips.
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Funny enough, I've never actually done a VO2 max test in my life.
I just know based on wrecking fools on Le Peleton (my scores are usually in the top .1% of riders there) or beating (most) of the local White Wakanda bros on mt bike hill climbs that it very high.
Plus my resting pulse is stupid low.
I'm working on getting better and the strength piece though since this becomes critical. We lose so much muscle mass as we age.
Can confirm that @chuck is skinny AF and kicked my ass at golf ball hitting.You guys are trying too hard. This was all laid out for us decades ago.
It turned out to be an amazing weight loss system for me. All I needed was this pyramid and 10-15 years of undiagnosed diabetes. I went from a strong, energetic 200lbs with a 34" waist and hulking legs to my current 160 stick figure and no energy. All while putting away 3-4000 calories per day from the bottom of the pyramid. At the peak, just before my kidneys started to go, I was eating enough for three men and still losing weight. I couldn't stop eating. It all went in one en and right out the other so it was fun too.
I was lucky I didn't die. That's really what was happening. The day I found out I was diabetic my blood sugar was over 600. Instead of a reading my new meter gave a code indicating I should go to the ER.
That was about 15 years ago. The challenge since has been keeping my weight low, and I do, while trying to regain some of that lost muscle mass, which I haven't.
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At my peak, my resting heart rate was about 45. It’s now about 60ish and I’m far from my peak.