NBA Playoff Megathread

[Tequilla]

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

ahh there it is, now just throw teq of 'defending sark into year 5 ' fame and salem 'derplord' coog in here and then we can put on a festival

what other lowest common denominator context-deprived team stats can we throw out there, boys

at least winners win, right?

I was not defending Sark in Year 5 ... but go ahead and enjoy that parade on Tuesday

You did.

Actually I didn’t ... I was one of the most vocal regarding firing him.

Too many confuse what I said Sark needed to do to keep his job after Year 5 as a sign of defending him ... not even close to the same thing

I remember you back to dawgman defending Sark. I'm sure you had some criticisms of him in your tl,dr posts, but you didn't call for him to very fired until the middle of year 5.

I was very critical of him after Year 3 and then he fired his defensive staff to buy himself more time

After Pete kicked his ass in Vegas it was fairly clear that he wasn’t the right coach to take UW to the next level ... that being said really hard for an AD to fire him at that point

Again, I think where you (and others) confuse what I say is that I don’t just randomly half ass call for people to be fired. I tend to treat those discussions as part of a resume and body of work.

What we will never know is whether Sark would have got fired after Year 5 (he should have) ... so praise be to Pat Haden

 

[dnc]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

 

[RoadDawg55]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

 

[Tequilla]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

Let’s see ... what did MJ do better than LBJ

Scored better

Better defender

Better competitive streak

And yeah, that winning thing kinda matters

 

[RoadDawg55]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

Let’s see ... what did MJ do better than LBJ

Scored better

Better defender

Better competitive streak

And yeah, that winning thing kinda matters

Not a better defender. LeBron was the best defender in the league for awhile. Not a better scorer, especially as they got older. LeBron is more efficient as well.

Equal shooters. LeBron has gotten much better. LeBron is a better passer and rebounder.

I'll give you competive streak, although LeBron has put the Cavs on his back every year he's been with them.

LeBron's main fault is he's a drama queen. A lot of the dissension and turmoil could be avoided if he wasn't a passive aggressive pussy at times. Part of that is the twitter/hot take media.

 

[dnc]

yes lebron is primarily responsible for the make up of the team

but you cant scratch two sticks together and make gold. kyrie irving left and in return they got an average point guard, a bench player, and a complete nothing. its widely reported lebron wanted the cavs to trade their pick for deandre

and this is all besides the point. lebron literally had one of the best seasons in history, in any context, and given what i listed many still believe he needed an excuse for getting swept in the finals lmfao

it is literally 4 hall of famers against lebron, the magically disappearing and randomly appearing kevin love, and the nba's version of a YMCA team. why the fuck would lebron need an excuse? it's clear to virtually everyone he's the best player on the planet for simply making the finals

some of ya'll should just admit you hate him because you're MJ fans and feel threatened[/b]

I hate MJ

Agree.

For fuck's sake I'm a fucking Lakers fan. I grew up absolutely hating MJ. He's still the all tim best though. I 100% hoped Kobe would manage to surpass his ass. He didn't. Neither has Lebron.

Some of you just need to admit you've been on the Lebron = Goat narrative since before he ever earned it on the court.

I'll still be enthusiastic as fuck if he comes to LA with at least one other major free agent.

I wasn't on the LeBron GOAT narrative before he beat GS in the finals. I hated him for a long time, but at a certain point it was undeniable.

Then you add in his next two years and predict the future. He's the best.

MJ had a lot more charisma and won more titles. There really wasn't one thing he did better than LeBron on the court.

Let’s see ... what did MJ do better than LBJ

Scored better

Better defender

Better competitive streak

And yeah, that winning thing kinda matters

Not a better defender. LeBron was the best defender in the league for awhile. Not a better scorer, especially as they got older. LeBron is more efficient as well.

Equal shooters. LeBron has gotten much better. LeBron is a better passer and rebounder.

I'll give you competive streak, although LeBron has put the Cavs on his back every year he's been with them.

LeBron's main fault is he's a drama queen. A lot of the dissension and turmoil could be avoided if he wasn't a passive aggressive pussy at times. Part of that is the twitter/hot take media.

Yeah, LeBron's actually a significantly better shooter. Jordan's effective shooting percentage was .509, Bron's is .540. Of course Jordan's got the two past his prime Washington years dragging his numbers down but even without them Bron had the edge.

Agree about Bron's biggest fault.

 

[haie]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

 

[allpurpleallgold]

Jordan was a better scorer. Part of that is Lebron is a much better passer.

The competitive thing is hanging on to an old narrative. Lebron put together the greatest game ever played down 3-2 to Boston with the entire Heat future on the line. Popovich basically challenged his manhood in their first Finals and Lebron responded. Pop even said to him after game game 7 something to the effect of “you won because you played like Lebron James”. The first Finals against Golden State he tried to backpack the Cavs and then down 3-1 the next year he had 3 straight amazing games. He carried a team that would win 20 games without him to the Finals and then should have won game 1 against the most talented team ever but his 20 win retard teammates let him down. Lebron has had questionable moments but most of them are far in the past.

Lebron has fallen off as a defender. I don’t think he’s been a great defender since he was on the Heat. MJ mainted the high level defense but this league is much harder to play on both ends. At their peaks Lebron gets a slight edge because of his size. In NBA history who couldn’t Lebron guard? Shaq? Anyone else?

I’m not going to say winning doesn’t matter but Jesus look at who Lebron has beaten in the Finals.
Durant
Westbrook
Harden
Duncan
Parker
Ginobili
Kawhi
Curry
Thompson
Draymond
Iguodala

That’s the next 25 years of hall of fame inductions.

The difference in championships is beating a washed Magic and Stockton, Malone twice. What are the other titles? Drexler? The fucking Sonics? And Jordan never had to play a ranked Oregon State.

 

[dnc]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

The Warriors are a truly great team. The Bulls without Jordan were very good, but not great. He definitely had a lot of help but he's the reason those teams were "truly great".

 

[haie]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

The Warriors are a truly great team. The Bulls without Jordan were very good, but not great. He definitely had a lot of help but he's the reason those teams were "truly great".

Not saying they were winning rings without him.

But he wasn’t carrying this shit team to titles. They were insanely well built.

Lebron has been carrying mediocre-shit teams for a long time. Absolutely no depth on any of them

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

Here's the deal. Take LeBron off the Cavs and they're a 20 win team.

Take MJ off the Bulls for allegedly gambling and the Bulls still came within a game of the ECF.

Jordan had an incredible team around him and the GOAT coach.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

The Warriors are a truly great team. The Bulls without Jordan were very good, but not great. He definitely had a lot of help but he's the reason those teams were "truly great".

Pippen was legitimately the 2nd best wing after Jordan. He was a great defender and a great secondary playmaker. There wasn't any swing man better than him after Jordan. He didn't win the MVP when Jordan first retired, but he was an All NBA guy.

 

[dnc]

Here's the deal. Take LeBron off the Cavs and they're a 20 win team.

Take MJ off the Bulls for allegedly gambling and the Bulls still came within a game of the ECF.

Jordan had an incredible team around him and the GOAT coach.

This is all basically true.

Also true that the Bulls won 13 games after Jordan retired the other time.

Like I already acknowledged they were a very good team around him, much better than most LeBron has played with.

They weren't great without him.

 

[dnc]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

The Warriors are a truly great team. The Bulls without Jordan were very good, but not great. He definitely had a lot of help but he's the reason those teams were "truly great".

Pippen was legitimately the 2nd best wing after Jordan. He was a great defender and a great secondary playmaker. There wasn't any swing man better than him after Jordan. He didn't win the MVP when Jordan first retired, but he was an All NBA guy.

I would have taken Penny over him until Penny got hurt, but yeah Pippen was damn good.

There wasn't really much else about that team that was special though (until they added Rodman).

And Phil is overfuckingrated.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Jordan if he came out in 2018 === Westbrook on some other team bowing out in the 1st/2nd round.

He was the best player on a truly great team. People forget that.

The Warriors are a truly great team. The Bulls without Jordan were very good, but not great. He definitely had a lot of help but he's the reason those teams were "truly great".

Pippen was legitimately the 2nd best wing after Jordan. He was a great defender and a great secondary playmaker. There wasn't any swing man better than him after Jordan. He didn't win the MVP when Jordan first retired, but he was an All NBA guy.

I would have taken Penny over him until Penny got hurt, but yeah Pippen was damn good.

There wasn't really much else about that team that was special though (until they added Rodman).

And Phil is overfuckingrated.

Agree about Phil. Can't argue the winning tho. He gets acknowledgement for his titles.

Penny over Pippen? Penny was more exciting but he had Shaq. He never won 57 with Tony Kukoc and Horace Grant as the next two best players.

 

[Tequilla]

Thank you for the laughs ... some of you are the definition of fucktarded

Win ... nothing else matters ... unless we are talking about LBJ ... then all is forgiven and he’s the GOAT

The whole LBJ is a better defender than MJ line ... some of you need need to forget about the lube and just straight go raw dog with LBJ’s dick in your asses

 

[dnc]

Thank you for the laughs ... some of you are the definition of fucktarded

Win ... nothing else matters ... unless we are talking about LBJ ... then all is forgiven and he’s the GOAT

The whole LBJ is a better defender than MJ line ... some of you need need to forget about the lube and just straight go raw dog with LBJ’s dick in your asses

Dude, LeBron could shut down players MJ couldn't check, that's just a fact.

I think MJ had more consistent defense throughout his career, but peak LeBron d > peak MJ d

 

[HorrifyinglyAlluring]

Why do I have to remind people that during the 8 Finals streak, LeBron has 3 rings and 3 MVPs, has beaten a 73-9 Warriors team during their 4 straight run, and beaten KD while he was with OKC?

The media are a bunch of liars. They have created this false narrative about LeBron and MJ concerning the GOAT label, when that is a conversation that is years away since LeBron could play another 4-5 years. Also, a player’s finals record is only part of their resume, not THE resume.

LeBron lost a great chance in ‘15 when Kyrie and Love were lost. After he won it in ‘16, the Warriors ran and got the best scorer in the league in KD and they crushed him. Then he drags this rag tag roster that was put together mid-season and he lost Kyrie because he wanted to leave. Yet, the critics would have you believe that LeBron looks bad at 3-6 in the Finals.

I can only imagine what the narrative would be if he had lost that game 7 to the Celts without Kyrie and Heyward, especially after that poster dunk and staredown by Tatum. He would have been crucified. People keep talking about what MJ would have done in Lebron’s shoes when we already know that he went 1-9 in the playoffs before Pippen got there.

One last thing, MJ was talked about being the GOAT after the 1st 3-peat, not when he got his 6th ring. I was an adult at the time, so I remember since I was a Bulls fan and loved MJ. When you are a special type of player, the ring count isn’t that big of a deal as long as you have at least won it multiple times, which LeBron has with 2 different franchises.

 

[RoadDawg55]

Thank you for the laughs ... some of you are the definition of fucktarded

Win ... nothing else matters ... unless we are talking about LBJ ... then all is forgiven and he’s the GOAT

The whole LBJ is a better defender than MJ line ... some of you need need to forget about the lube and just straight go raw dog with LBJ’s dick in your asses

Dude, LeBron could shut down players MJ couldn't check, that's just a fact.

I think MJ had more consistent defense throughout his career, but peak LeBron d > peak MJ d

Forget the lube and let LeBron raw dawg you.