Meanwhile, at Cal still too high

[HHusky]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

Bibi's 4 corners delay game to prop up rival Palestinian factions was not an effort to make peace with "these people".
I'm calling bullshit on your final paragraph, which once again describes a monolithic inhabitant of Gaza with lockstep, uniform motivations.

 

[EverettChris]

Chrissy can't imagine the demonization of a group could lead to genocide.
I mean, when has that ever happened in real life?

”could” is a long leap from what you posted, doofus.
You’re a psychopath.

 

[pawz]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

Bibi's 4 corners delay game to prop up rival Palestinian factions was not an effort to make peace with "these people".
I'm calling bullshit on your final paragraph, which once again describes a monolithic inhabitant of Gaza with lockstep, uniform motivations.

You shouldn’t talk about monolithic observations to justify bad behavior.

Trump is literally Hitler so throw the legal system at a political opponent over countless, baseless charges.

.

 

[RaceBannon]

 

[RaceBannon]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

Bibi's 4 corners delay game to prop up rival Palestinian factions was not an effort to make peace with "these people".
I'm calling bullshit on your final paragraph, which once again describes a monolithic inhabitant of Gaza with lockstep, uniform motivations.

You shouldn’t talk about monolithic observations to justify bad behavior.

Trump is literally Hitler so throw the legal system at a political opponent over countless, baseless charges.

.

It's too bad the clown car showed up. We disagree but we can discuss it. I don't think you're a Hamas supporter
H is just a leftist who hates America and loves her enemies

 

[EverettChris]

Secret code to hitch a ride in H’s Clown Car is a thumbs down signal.
@MelloDawg figured that one out.

 

[creepycoug]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

Bibi's 4 corners delay game to prop up rival Palestinian factions was not an effort to make peace with "these people".
I'm calling bullshit on your final paragraph, which once again describes a monolithic inhabitant of Gaza with lockstep, uniform motivations.

So, you're saying Israel has not tried to make peace with Palestinian Arabs? I mean, what you said could also apply to the IDF soldier who fired the most recent bullet. That's not trying to make peace either. At some point, you go on the offensive.
You're calling bullshit on my last paragraph? All of it? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs were allowed to work and, conditionally, live in Israel? Do you deny there is an Arab Muslim on Israel's high court? Do you deny that Israel was the source of water and power to Gaza? Do you deny that any Palestinian who wanted to live by the rules would have been more than welcomed to do so? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs used the work permit system to get over the Israeli border to conduct intel for, or as, Hamas? What part are you calling bullshit?
And why must we always waste so much time with hyperbole? Nobody on this site is advocating for a final solution to the Palestinian Arabs. The comparisons with Hitler and the Third Reich are simply childish. Tell ya what, let's ask:
Tugs - do any of you support the systematic extermination of the Palestinian Arabs? That is, should Israel, or anyone, just fucking glass the entire region and not leave a living soul alive? Women, children, elderly, handicapped? Everyone? Just go SS on them? If you believe this, please raise your hand so I can make clear that we are not aligned.
Let's give that a few minutes. If we get the appropriate negative or silent responses, can we dispense with the "everyone who doesn't agree with me politically is Hitler" routine? It's annoying and very junior high.
Yes, I am aware that there are normal and peaceful people who live[d] in Gaza. I am also aware that a significant number of those who live[d] in Gaza supported a terrorist organization and think as you charged others here as thinking: that it's not only ok, but morally compelling to kill Jews and eliminate the state of Israel. Not just a few crazies. 3rd grade school teachers.
At some point, everybody pays for the sins of their government. The Gazans chose theirs, which was supported by an overwhelming majority. Hamas is everywhere there.

 

[creepycoug]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

I’m going to get a lot of heat for pointing this out, but you and HH are surprisingly close on the freedom of movement issue.
Imagine needing a permit - or a vaccine - to leave your home.

.

I don't understand. Please explain.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

I’m going to get a lot of heat for pointing this out, but you and HH are surprisingly close on the freedom of movement issue.
Imagine needing a permit - or a vaccine - to leave your home.

.

Another supporter of open borders for America. Also, the dazzler seems to forget that Arafat decades ago was given essentially a two state solution. He turned it down because of Bibi's 4 corner delay game - apparently. And also because if Arafat settled for peace he would have been killed because the Palis didn't want peace they wanted the Jews out.

 

[RaceBannon]

The bigger picture is Israel is the start not the end
Selling out Israel won't save America or Europe. Selling out Czechoslovakia didn't save Europe
And I am AGAINST genocide

 

[HHusky]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

I’m going to get a lot of heat for pointing this out, but you and HH are surprisingly close on the freedom of movement issue.
Imagine needing a permit - or a vaccine - to leave your home.

.

Another supporter of open borders for America. Also, the dazzler seems to forget that Arafat decades ago was given essentially a two state solution. He turned it down because of Bibi's 4 corner delay game - apparently. And also because if Arafat settled for peace he would have been killed because the Palis didn't want peace they wanted the Jews out.

Gasbag says extermination in 2024 is justified. Cuz Arafat, of course.

 

[HHusky]

And as long as we can characterize them all in monolithic fashion, we can justify just about anything, right?
It would be a lot of bother to sort them, and no one, including Egypt wants to do it. Walling them off is a short-term fix.
But the calls for an efficient final solution have already begun and the team you side with here is on board with that.

Wrong. Israel is responding to aggression, which has been there from the beginning despite its efforts to make peace with these people.

How does that turn into an analogy of the Nazi Final Solution? I don't understand.
Any Palestinian who wanted another life had every opportunity to seek one out in Israel. They not only chose to not do that, but chose to use work permits as a ruse for doing intel on the Israeli side of the border so they could go back and feed it to Hamas strategists.

Bibi's 4 corners delay game to prop up rival Palestinian factions was not an effort to make peace with "these people".
I'm calling bullshit on your final paragraph, which once again describes a monolithic inhabitant of Gaza with lockstep, uniform motivations.

So, you're saying Israel has not tried to make peace with Palestinian Arabs? I mean, what you said could also apply to the IDF soldier who fired the most recent bullet. That's not trying to make peace either. At some point, you go on the offensive.
You're calling bullshit on my last paragraph? All of it? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs were allowed to work and, conditionally, live in Israel? Do you deny there is an Arab Muslim on Israel's high court? Do you deny that Israel was the source of water and power to Gaza? Do you deny that any Palestinian who wanted to live by the rules would have been more than welcomed to do so? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs used the work permit system to get over the Israeli border to conduct intel for, or as, Hamas? What part are you calling bullshit?
And why must we always waste so much time with hyperbole? Nobody on this site is advocating for a final solution to the Palestinian Arabs. The comparisons with Hitler and the Third Reich are simply childish. Tell ya what, let's ask:
Tugs - do any of you support the systematic extermination of the Palestinian Arabs? That is, should Israel, or anyone, just fucking glass the entire region and not leave a living soul alive? Women, children, elderly, handicapped? Everyone? Just go SS on them? If you believe this, please raise your hand so I can make clear that we are not aligned.
Let's give that a few minutes. If we get the appropriate negative or silent responses, can we dispense with the "everyone who doesn't agree with me politically is Hitler" routine? It's annoying and very junior high.
Yes, I am aware that there are normal and peaceful people who live[d] in Gaza. I am also aware that a significant number of those who live[d] in Gaza supported a terrorist organization and think as you charged others here as thinking: that it's not only ok, but morally compelling to kill Jews and eliminate the state of Israel. Not just a few crazies. 3rd grade school teachers.
At some point, everybody pays for the sins of their government. The Gazans chose theirs, which was supported by an overwhelming majority. Hamas is everywhere there.

Israel was permitting a small fraction of the entry from Gaza that was permitted twenty years ago. Yes, I’m calling bullshit. And that’s not to pretend emigration to Israel is all that desirable for a non-Jewish Arab. Moving to Israel as a minority isn’t just like moving to Western Europe, the US, or Canada.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Not what I said. You leftards are claiming genocide. I posted the population numbers, otherwise known as the facts and not the feelings. When you need to lie to make your point, maybe you don't have a point. I'd actually ask what you think Israel should do, but that would be outside of your ability. Your side thinks they should surrender their border and then see what happens. Palis and their supporters are saying "From the River to the Sea." The Jews aren't saying "From the Sea to the River."

 

[creepycoug]

Roughly 20% of Israel's population are Arab. Estimates of Arab Muslims in Israel are on the low end 14+% of the population, and on the high end over 18%. That region is packed with people of those and other religions and they are used to rubbing elbows. If anybody from Gaza is uncomfortable emigrating to Israel, you know exactly who is to blame for that awkwardness. Incidentally, how many Jews were in Gaza? Why do you suppose that was? Were they safe and welcome? Or would a person of obvious Jewish affiliation have survived a single evening in Gaza City?

As to how many work permits were being issued relative to another time, it appears that the ban by the military post 10/7 was enough to hit the economy and force the hardliners to make exceptions.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-ostensible-ban-tens-of-thousands-of-palestinians-working-in-israel-report/?__cf_chl_tk=DC0fKQxD3e0zWTQ_52r8VHAwv1vVGqj_BPeozR1iaxM-1711754213-0.0.1.1-1770
It's good to see that we have at least moved on from "you're Hitler" nonsense.

 

[EverettChris]

Roughly 20% of Israel's population are Arab. Estimates of Arab Muslims in Israel are on the low end 14+% of the population, and on the high end over 18%. That region is packed with people of those and other religions and they are used to rubbing elbows. If anybody from Gaza is uncomfortable emigrating to Israel, you know exactly who is to blame for that awkwardness. Incidentally, how many Jews were in Gaza? Why do you suppose that was? Were they safe and welcome? Or would a person of obvious Jewish affiliation have survived a single evening in Gaza City?

As to how many work permits were being issued relative to another time, it appears that the ban by the military post 10/7 was enough to hit the economy and force the hardliners to make exceptions.

It's good to see that we have at least moved on from "you're Hitler" nonsense.

He hasn’t moved past it. I’m surprised anyone would spend significant time answering the guy. He’s not going to read what you posted, and on the off chance he does, he won’t acknowledge it. He’s a 60+ year-old internet troll.

 

[Pitchfork51]

nothings changed with me.

China has the right idea on Islam.

Europe will eventually figure it out and it’s going to look mighty similar

everyone will be like how did we get here?

Well it’s been pretty fucking obvious for a while

 

[RaceBannon]

It's gonna be 1490 all over again

 

[Doogles]

my god H getting shredded by Creep.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

It's gonna be 1490 all over again

Or X490 in Tartaria.

 

[Sledog]

The tell is that no country wants to take in Pali's. None. Including all the Arab countries. They are toxic. Train their children at birth to kill jews etc. They will never play nice anywhere.

Well, if the Arabs want to genocide them too, I guess it's fine.
A joyous Easter to the Christians here.

So, you're on Team Genocide? Say it ain't so.
I always give you a lot more credit here than the locals. I'm about to change my mind.

I'm not on team genocide. I don't think genocide is on the table. That they use their own people as shields does say something about 'em. They've had 5 chances for their own nation. Israel agreed to give up land etc. The caveat is always that all Jews must die. I can't fix their kind of stupid. Muslims in Israel live well.