Kyle Ford, 4* 2019 WR, Anaheim (Servite), CA (Offered 5/21/17)

At this point I'm more interested in the chaos and fallout if kk actually left usc... That would be entertaining to no end.
 
It’s easy to play Monday Morning QB

If the strategy works nobody complains

When it misses turn everything over and blow it up

There are consequences to behaviors and strategies
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Where is the upside to shutting down a positions recruiting and trusting the “commitment” of a kid when it’s backfired multiple times. This isn’t an outlier this has hurt us in multiple occasions to the point I want to know the pros about telling kids to fuck off do to a positional cap. It’s dumb.
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Very correct. The position should be recruited up until Player A signs. Player B can also commit but should be told the offer is only committable if Player A doesn't sign in the early period. Then even after they sign all players should be continually recruited up until the first day of practice. After that coaches can back off slightly but still have to suck player dick because the new transfer rules means players on your roster will still be recruited by other teams.
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This is one of the most fucktardedly idiotic thing I've ever seen on this board

Let's just say that there are 10 different positional groups on a football team (QB, RB, TE, WR, OL, DL, ILB, OLB, CB, S) so you're advocating for a +1 10 different times.

So first thing first, you're asking 10 ELITE level kids to be willing to go up to early Signing Day with a non committable offer while spots at other ELITE programs are filling up.

Do you realize how fucking laughable that is?

In other words, you're essentially advocating "transparently slow playing" guys ... which could be described as a similar strategy as to what is done with in-state players ... which most are all over for saying that our strategy absolutely sucks ass.

So what you're really advocating with that strategy is not having elite players on the hook but having more Plan B guys on the hook ... who potentially aren't signing anyway on early Signing Day as they wait to see how things shake out at the big time programs because that Oregon St offer will always be there still if they are good enough.
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Uh no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not sure about your reading comprehension. I'm simply saying you keep recruiting the position until your first choice signs. If your first choice doesn't sign in early period then you at least have an option with your second choice. Your second choice is not likely to be elite.
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My reading comprehension is fine

Just that what you are advocating is against what Pete has established

Now, he could change it ... but as is isn’t happening
 
Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.
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Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
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This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
 
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First time the USC fan base has experienced this, and they aren't taking it very well.

Kliff completely misjudged his demand, but so did USC. I would like to think USC didn't realize it either or they wouldn't have hired him. But then again, it's USC, and the stank of arrogance might have bit them.
 
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Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.
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Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
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This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
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He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
 
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Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.
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Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
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This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
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He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
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We’re not saying the same thing though, I’m saying it’s very possible Ford doesn’t pick SC if not for Kliff. If Kliff leaves before signing day it will be very interesting to see if Ford waivers.
 
Both Ford and McCoy committed as he was rumored to be interviewing

Who this might impact is nacua. He expressed concern in a Huffman article over r the uncertainty with Utah's oc situation. This would almost certainly make him raise an eye.
 
Both Ford and McCoy committed as he was rumored to be interviewing

Who this might impact is nacua. He expressed concern in a Huffman article over r the uncertainty with Utah's oc situation. This would almost certainly make him raise an eye.
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McCoy signed in December
 
Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.
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Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
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This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
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He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
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We’re not saying the same thing though, I’m saying it’s very possible Ford doesn’t pick SC if not for Kliff. If Kliff leaves before signing day it will be very interesting to see if Ford waivers.
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Well then, I hope you’re right, but I don’t think there’s a chance Ford leaves if Kliff isn’t there. Kid wants to be the next JuJu and was sold on the “USC alumni” connections. We got out built for life for him, Kliff’s just a talking point.
 
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Both Ford and McCoy committed as he was rumored to be interviewing

Who this might impact is nacua. He expressed concern in a Huffman article over r the uncertainty with Utah's oc situation. This would almost certainly make him raise an eye.
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McCoy signed in December
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could always get homesick and claim to lose a bit of weight

this is 2019, the possibilities are endless.
 
Ford is gone. He is USC fast strategy. We only have a shot with Nacua and we can't fuck around. We need to get Marcus Tuiasasopo on staff asap to show him the UW way. We have a shot with him. Not with socal private school guys that are wanted by USC. Not at the moment any way. In the future maybe. But not now.
 
Ford is gone. He is USC fast strategy. We only have a shot with Nacua and we can't fuck around. We need to get Marcus Tuiasasopo on staff asap to show him the UW way. We have a shot with him. Not with socal private school guys that are wanted by USC. Not at the moment any way. In the future maybe. But not now.
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You are a doog if you want to hire Tui as our WR coach lol.

We are getting some of the SoCal private school kids too. It’s fucking sales!
 
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