Julien Simon, 4* 2021 ATH, Tacoma (Lincoln), WA (Offered 6/22)

If he commits to us we stole a player from USC (and we'll pretend that still means something). A guy who's an absolute man child and will be our next Azeem.

If he goes to USC we obviously DWHA and he's another topped out Joel Dublanko.
 
If he commits to us we stole a player from USC (and we'll pretend that still means something). A guy who's an absolute man child and will be our next Azeem.

If he goes to USC we obviously DWHA and he's another topped out Joel Dublanko.
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Check out the crystal brain on this one.
 
If he commits to us we stole a player from USC (and we'll pretend that still means something). A guy who's an absolute man child and will be our next Azeem.

If he goes to USC we obviously DWHA and he's another topped out Joel Dublanko.
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Stealing a guy from u$c this yr looks a little rosier then last yr.
 
If he commits to us we stole a player from USC (and we'll pretend that still means something). A guy who's an absolute man child and will be our next Azeem.

If he goes to USC we obviously DWHA and he's another topped out Joel Dublanko.
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Stealing a 2021 recruit from USC absolutely means something IN THIS ECONOMY.
 
This idea that he won't be leaving home is horse shit. Is mom is probably extremely proud that he is getting a full ride to the University of Southern California.
 
Fact that we’re less than 4 hours from his commitment announcement and there’s essentially no buzz ... positive sign
 
I believe there’s no buzz because everybody already knows where he’s going. Hope to be wrong but it’s supposedly a forgone conclusion teq
 
I have ZERO expectation that he’s going to UW

I can understand those questioning him as a player, etc

But showing indifference and lack of interest in a highly rated local player who chooses a school with a better name/prestige is BAD OPTICS

If you pass on a guy like Simon, you damn well better get a higher end player to defend yourself against those optics

If you are going to be successful dominating your in-state recruiting, you may have to take someone that you aren’t as high on to make sure you get the ones you have to get

I’m really having a hard time figuring out if I am hoping that we find a way to salvage this class or to have it completely tank and bottom out. Fundamental changes are needed ... it’s becoming very clear.
 
I have ZERO expectation that he’s going to UW

I can understand those questioning him as a player, etc

But showing indifference and lack of interest in a highly rated local player who chooses a school with a better name/prestige is BAD OPTICS

If you pass on a guy like Simon, you damn well better get a higher end player to defend yourself against those optics

If you are going to be successful dominating your in-state recruiting, you may have to take someone that you aren’t as high on to make sure you get the ones you have to get

I’m really having a hard time figuring out if I am hoping that we find a way to salvage this class or to have it completely tank and bottom out. Fundamental changes are needed ... it’s becoming very clear.
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The bottom is in. Going 11-1 this year.
 
I have ZERO expectation that he’s going to UW

I can understand those questioning him as a player, etc

But showing indifference and lack of interest in a highly rated local player who chooses a school with a better name/prestige is BAD OPTICS

If you pass on a guy like Simon, you damn well better get a higher end player to defend yourself against those optics

If you are going to be successful dominating your in-state recruiting, you may have to take someone that you aren’t as high on to make sure you get the ones you have to get

I’m really having a hard time figuring out if I am hoping that we find a way to salvage this class or to have it completely tank and bottom out. Fundamental changes are needed ... it’s becoming very clear.
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Agree on the bad optics. Even if we end up with Wynden, you take a highly rated local kid, even if he is way overrated. The worst that happens is your analysis of him is correct, he rides the bench for 2 years and then transfers to Montana State or Portland State or something. Meanwhile though, you have improved the image that local kids stay at WA. And I get that we only need 1 ILB in this class. However, we are at the same time willing to take a low-rated FB recruit (who was only offered because he is local) when we already have like 5 guys on the roster at that position.
 
The tough part is this is a small class as is and the numbers at ILB are going to be high already. You’d essentially be counting on Tafisi and/or other LBs to transfer to make the numbers manageable. And it might be at the cost of taking a recruit at a position of higher need. This is with the caveat that we’re taking Ho’ohuli obviously.
 
Is Ho’ohuli that much better than Simon to take all the opportunity costs and risks associated with that strategy?
 
Is Ho’ohuli that much better than Simon to take all the opportunity costs and risks associated with that strategy?
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This. And it’d be one thing if we had Ho’ohuli committed already, if he goes elsewhere what’s the plan then? Take no one? Think you can get back in with Simon? Hit up Trey Reynolds and pretend like he was always high on your board and you didn’t just throw away good relationships with another local kid which will influence your future success in-state?
 
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