If Hop stays, couple big men in the transfer portal they could look at.

[BroadcastingDawg]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

This is weird take. Grant actually does bleed purple & gold - thank god, because otherwise he wouldn’t be coming to UW. To credit this as some recruiting win for Hop is bizarre.

And yes, after arguably two of the worst seasons in program history, back fo back, spare folks if we are not optimistic about Hop & Jen.

And for me, Hop is what he is. Needs to be fired, of course. But Jen owns this. She hired hop, let then her ego get the best of her after two good years and signed a ridiculous contract.

Very much a rookie AD move. And like I said, a function of her thinking she doesn’t make mistakes.

That resulted in a first time head coach getting an insane buyout, one not justified by on the court accomplishments or threat of him leaving, that effectively makes it impossible to fire him after he tanks the program. Great work.

You wouldn't have thought it was a rookie mistake at the time so quit pretending in hindsight that Hop looked anything but a successful hire and someone the Huskies should have committed to long term.

As for Jackson Grant, discrediting Hop is a weird take considering the kid is fucking going to UW. You don't think there was a decision process the kid went through and Hop wasn't a part of landing him? I don't care if he bleeds Purple and Gold... you still gotta convince the kid to come and play basketball for you.

I didn’t have an issue extending Hop. It seemed fine at the time. I have an issue with the buyout terms. Which were ludicrous then & ludicrous now. If you are the AD, your job is not to read your news clips and think you are infallible and that every coach you hire is going to be awesome and be here forever and so fuck it, give them a gold-plated contract because why not?

A $12M+ buyout for mike Hopkins? That is BONKERS. Dude had won one (1) tournament game in his career. Her job is to negotiate contracts, and she got hosed. Which means she’s effectively not even in control of the bball program anymore - she couldn’t fire hop even if she wanted to. Great job, Jen!

As for grant, yes, you could have Amazon Alexa coaching the program & he would commit. He loves UW and has been a UW fan his entire life.

He was the P12 Coach of the year 2x years in a row... won the conference in his 2nd season largely w. a team of misfits who made up a team that went 9-22 w. Markelle f'n Fultz on it a season before he got there. He lost to the eventual National Champions in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament... You're underselling what he did in those 1st 2 years to deserve an nice extension w. guarantees. Things can go poorly quickly, but if the last 2 Dawg years had gone great not a single soul would be talking about them... it's part of the risks you take with contracts... and I'm not convinced his buyouts are why he's not being fired, they were going to give him a chance to turn this around regardless.

And we'll just disagree there. Grant is too good of a prospect to go to a program purely on allegiance.

 

[FremontTroll]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

 

[PurpleThrobber]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

If those recruits are that covered, it further solidifies Hop is a fucktard of a coach.

Look into what Shontay Liggems has done at EWU. Broom hop and bring in a guy who can recruit and develop players. Groves was a marginal D-1 player out of high school. He’s now the Big Sky MVP.

The dude can coach and recruit. He’d kill it at UW.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

And lets actually talk about your 31 offers...

6 of them turned pro so that reduces your list to 25.

The Huskies didn't have a chance with/extended courtesy offers to: Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Josh Christopher, Frank Kepnang, Jaden Harding, Peyton Watson, Nolan Hickman, Trey Patterson, Zaon Collins, Will McClendon...

Why? Because these are the cream of the crop players who played at major prep schools and had offers from the Dukes/Kentucky's/UNC's of the world and literally everyone BIG offers them... or did all other 30+ power teams who offered them and didn't land them fail as well?

Reduces your list to 14.

Then there's solid 4 star kids who do not fit the designation above but are literally from Alabama, Texas, West Virginia who just flat out couldn't locate Seattle on a map and clearly weren't coming here:

Jusuan Holt, Isaiah Cotrell, LJ Cryer...

Reduces your list to 11 players who realistically would come to UW, so yeah, if we're being honest its not really 31. [/b]

The Huskies offered but probably didn't care much to get: Braxton Meah, Kendall Munson, Lamont Butler, Mitchell Saxson, Noah Taitz, < - these are mostly players who signed w. mediocre programs knowing they'd never get minutes if they signed w. a Power Conference team... and these are players you'd be bitching about them signing anyway.

Reduces your list 5.

So what remains?

Paolo Banchero -> would have loved to have gotten him... but he chose to go to Duke... can't fault him there, even if they are coming off their worst season since 1996. He's a UW guy, but he chose a path to a lottery pick and the pros that's guaranteed.

Kaden Perry - > would have loved to have gotten him... but he signed with Gonzaga... he's from the Eastern side of the state and GU is the no. 1 team in the country at the moment... so no chance there.

Who we, in my opinion, failed to get that we should have had a chance with:[/b]

Shane Nowell -> why we didn't secure Jaylen's brother is beyond me and a failure in my eyes. we shouldn't be losing him to Arizona and it's a big loss.

Julian Strawther -> Dawgs were rumored to high on his list, but again... he chose Gonzaga... can't fault him there.

John Christofilis -> He should be a Husky... no excuse to let a kid go who is as solid ass shooter... and decided to go to Creighton...

^^^ These are the realistic misses

Even then, the guys who realistically had a chance with signed with Duke, Arizona, Gonzaga and Creighton... so it wasn't even like we had a serious chance here either considering how good these programs are year after year.

So basically... there were 6 guys they really wanted and had a chance to get based on geography and familiarity with the program... they got 1 in Jackson Grant.

They didn't fail on 31.

 

[Tequilla]

Jen’s buyout terms with Hop shows how beta she is

She signed that contract to 1) poison pill the contract for reimbursement if Hop left and 2) by locking in that contract she wouldn’t have to worry about upgrading the contract in the near future

Any contact that gets signed always needs to balance security vs keeping proper levels of incentive and motivation

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

If those recruits are that covered, it further solidifies Hop is a fucktard of a coach.

Look into what Shontay Liggems has done at EWU. Broom hop and bring in a guy who can recruit and develop players. Groves was a marginal D-1 player out of high school. He’s now the Big Sky MVP.

The dude can coach and recruit. He’d kill it at UW.

I'm not against signing coaches from smaller conferences... but if we're going to the Big Sky to get a head coach we're beyond fucked.

Especially when 75% of his roster is made up of white kids from Spokane.

Ritchie McKay could be a name to look at... Liberty was 28-6 in 2019 and beat a 5 seed Miss St. in the tournament, 30-4 last year and are 23-5 this year... they routinely beat power conference teams on their schedule. He went to SPU, was an assistant at UW in the mid 90's... head coach at OSU for 2 years in the early 2000's but his record wasn't special.

 

[ntxduck]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Jesus Christ

What do you have a problem with now dick wad?

Just cause you're the no. 1 recruit doesn't mean you need serious development. Chet's body needs serious work.

Nerlens Noel and Skal Labissiere say hello.

Big Marcus Kent vibes on educk from broadcasting dawg.

 

[Tequilla]

No on Ritchie McKay ... are you kidding me?

 

[doogville]

UW can’t compete with Creighton for recruits. Good to know.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

No on Ritchie McKay ... are you kidding me?

Ritchie McKay is a clown.

Liggens before Cal swoops him up.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

If those recruits are that covered, it further solidifies Hop is a fucktard of a coach.

Look into what Shontay Liggems has done at EWU. Broom hop and bring in a guy who can recruit and develop players. Groves was a marginal D-1 player out of high school. He’s now the Big Sky MVP.

The dude can coach and recruit. He’d kill it at UW.

I'm not against signing coaches from smaller conferences... but if we're going to the Big Sky to get a head coach we're beyond fucked.

Especially when 75% of his roster is made up of white kids from Spokane.

Ritchie McKay could be a name to look at... Liberty was 28-6 in 2019 and beat a 5 seed Miss St. in the tournament, 30-4 last year and are 23-5 this year... they routinely beat power conference teams on their schedule. He went to SPU, was an assistant at UW in the mid 90's... head coach at OSU for 2 years in the early 2000's but his record wasn't special.

There’s two Spokane kids at EWU - and they are brothers.

 

[FremontTroll]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

You can throw the recruiting ranking out the window once a guy comes into a program and doesn’t do anything. Pretty rare that a player in any sport transfers because they aren’t playing, to an equivalent level, and then becomes great. Those are roster filler transfers.

I never watched Stevenson at Wichita State to know how he was at one point the leading scorer on a nationally ranked team. Maybe the hot streak of his life. I also know he then started sucking and losing playing time and had a lot of shit to say about Marshall on his way out.

That none of these guys are panning out just proves my point. Hopkins wasn’t bringing in transfers that proved themselves elsewhere he was bringing in roster fillers because he can’t recruit anyone.

Now we are where we are. Where the biggest doog in the universe (you) thinks maybe, possibly, if we can get a good big via the portal and everything else lines up right we might finish middle of the conference next season.

What a disaster.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

Christ you’re bad at this. I mean I understand you are taking an indefensible position and I give you credit for that but at least try to read.

I didn’t argue anything about Grant as a recruit. My point was pretty clearly that you need to win more than ONE recruiting battle in two cycles.

Your roster size argument is bullshit. First of all we only ended up with a full roster by taking rejects from other programs as backups when we couldn’t recruit anyone. Second, Romar math. There is always room and that is especially true with ad much dead weight as Hop is currently carrying.

31 offers. 1 signee. Dead man walking. Everyone sees it.

You keep trying to paint everything the Huskies have done in this ultra negative light.

Stevenson, Bajema and Brooks are not "rejects from other programs"...

Stevenson played in all 37 games as a frosh and was their 2nd leading scorer as a soph. for a solid ass program in Wichita St.

Michigan, who is currently ranked 4th in the country, offered and brought Bajema in, who was a top-100 recruit.

Brooks was also a top-100 guy.

You act like these guys were 1-star shit heads from Bellingham who Hop had to take because he failed recruiting. Nonsense...

If those recruits are that covered, it further solidifies Hop is a fucktard of a coach.

Look into what Shontay Liggems has done at EWU. Broom hop and bring in a guy who can recruit and develop players. Groves was a marginal D-1 player out of high school. He’s now the Big Sky MVP.

The dude can coach and recruit. He’d kill it at UW.

I'm not against signing coaches from smaller conferences... but if we're going to the Big Sky to get a head coach we're beyond fucked.

Especially when 75% of his roster is made up of white kids from Spokane.

Ritchie McKay could be a name to look at... Liberty was 28-6 in 2019 and beat a 5 seed Miss St. in the tournament, 30-4 last year and are 23-5 this year... they routinely beat power conference teams on their schedule. He went to SPU, was an assistant at UW in the mid 90's... head coach at OSU for 2 years in the early 2000's but his record wasn't special.

There’s two Spokane kids at EWU - and they are brothers.

I’ll also add, three of the four coaches in the PAC 12 semis are former Big Sky coaches. Big Sky coach just won the tourney and is going dancing.

Don’t make me go historical with the likes of Mike Montgomery and Jud Heathcote

Hop sucks dick with his Big East and ACC roots.

 

[BennyBeaver]

Ritchie McKay. Please bring him to Montlake. That would be epic.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

No on Ritchie McKay ... are you kidding me?

Assistant for Tony Bennett at Virginia... Bennett personally sought him out.

"He earned a master’s degree in the packline defense and learned how Bennett built his program. That time also afforded him the ability to take a step back and redefine himself as a coach. It also gave him a sense of renewal both on and off the court. He was able to watch a program get built from the ground up at a different perspective... I got a chance just to serve Tony (Bennett), but I also got to watch him. That was just like a classroom. I learned a whole lot and got a chance to pour into some players. I just think it helped reshape my intentions in being in coaching, as well as, obviously, the basketball part. I was better equipped to be a head coach.”

And you can't scoff at the results... Liberty has been freaking good despite being the leader in obtuse Christian schools.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

No on Ritchie McKay ... are you kidding me?

Assistant for Tony Bennett at Virginia... Bennett personally sought him out.

"He earned a master’s degree in the packline defense and learned how Bennett built his program. That time also afforded him the ability to take a step back and redefine himself as a coach. It also gave him a sense of renewal both on and off the court. He was able to watch a program get built from the ground up at a different perspective... I got a chance just to serve Tony (Bennett), but I also got to watch him. That was just like a classroom. I learned a whole lot and got a chance to pour into some players. I just think it helped reshape my intentions in being in coaching, as well as, obviously, the basketball part. I was better equipped to be a head coach.”

And you can't scoff at the results... Liberty has been freaking good despite being the leader in obtuse Christian schools.

You think local recruiting is bad now, try attracting Seattle kids to play Bennett Ball.

Nate and BRoy just lost their shit.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

No on Ritchie McKay ... are you kidding me?

Assistant for Tony Bennett at Virginia... Bennett personally sought him out.

"He earned a master’s degree in the packline defense and learned how Bennett built his program. That time also afforded him the ability to take a step back and redefine himself as a coach. It also gave him a sense of renewal both on and off the court. He was able to watch a program get built from the ground up at a different perspective... I got a chance just to serve Tony (Bennett), but I also got to watch him. That was just like a classroom. I learned a whole lot and got a chance to pour into some players. I just think it helped reshape my intentions in being in coaching, as well as, obviously, the basketball part. I was better equipped to be a head coach.”

And you can't scoff at the results... Liberty has been freaking good despite being the leader in obtuse Christian schools.

You think local recruiting is bad now, try attracting Seattle kids to play Bennett Ball.

Nate and BRoy just lost their shit.

I couldn't care less what Nate and BRoy think. Who gives a shit about them? What have they done to help the program the last 4 seasons? Diddly shit.

It's a brand of basketball that wins... Virginia has had no issues recruiting and they're fighting w. Duke and UNC + a much better overall conference for recruits.

 

[BennyBeaver]

Ritchie = Lionel

Please bring him in. I beg you, Allah, Jen and her gadzooks to make this happen.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

Look who feels the need to chime in now that little OSU made the big dance for the second time in 32 years.

What are you begging for? Whoever UW hires doesn't change the fact that 17-12, 10-10 and lucky run through the conference tournament is literally the best OSU will ever hope for.