How the f has Arizona not finished...

Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Newsflash...100% of the electorate are sinners...even you (and me) You are correct though, people don't like it when their sins are pointed out. Bad political strategy? Probably.
How many politicians have ever said one thing and flipflops later? (Not defending Lake or whataboutism.)
People can change their stance or beliefs on a great many things when they learn they were previously wrong and that is a good thing....Unfortunately to be perfectly honest, politicians will say what they need to to get vote. No argument from me on that point.
Not me. Call it 99.99%.
 
Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Newsflash...100% of the electorate are sinners...even you (and me) You are correct though, people don't like it when their sins are pointed out. Bad political strategy? Probably.
How many politicians have ever said one thing and flipflops later? (Not defending Lake or whataboutism.)
People can change their stance or beliefs on a great many things when they learn they were previously wrong and that is a good thing....Unfortunately to be perfectly honest, politicians will say what they need to to get vote. No argument from me on that point.
Not me. Call it 99.99%.
When you get to heaven you can tell God to move over because there are 2 of you. Haha
 
Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Newsflash...100% of the electorate are sinners...even you (and me) You are correct though, people don't like it when their sins are pointed out. Bad political strategy? Probably.
How many politicians have ever said one thing and flipflops later? (Not defending Lake or whataboutism.)
People can change their stance or beliefs on a great many things when they learn they were previously wrong and that is a good thing....Unfortunately to be perfectly honest, politicians will say what they need to to get vote. No argument from me on that point.
Not me. Call it 99.99%.
When you get to heaven you can tell God to move over because there are 2 of you. Haha
he knows.
 
Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Forgot to ask you for a direct quote or citation, so I'm doing that now

Kari Lake: “Obviously, I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and I think the Supreme Court, I have a good feeling that they’re going to do the right thing this time. And again, I’ll echo what Steve just said, we have a great law on the books right now, if that happens, we will be a state where we will not be taking the lives of our unborn anymore.” 
Kari Lake: “I’m incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that’s already on the books. I believe it’s ARS 13-3603. So it will prohibit abortion in Arizona except to save the life of a mother. And I think we’re going to be setting the, paving the way and setting course for other states to follow.”
Host: “The new law banning abortion or the new law banning abortion in Arizona after 15 weeks, there’s that law and there’s a territorial era law which bans all abortion. Zippo. Over. Which law do you think should take effect?”
Kari Lake: “My personal belief is that all life matters, all life counts, and all life is precious. And I don’t believe in abortion. I think the older law is going to go into effect. That’s what I believe will happen.” 
Host: “OK, and you approve of that? What, at conception?”
Kari Lake: “I believe life begins at conception.”
Host: “What do we do about abortion pills? What do we do about it?”
 Kari Lake: “I don’t think abortion pills should be legal.”
 
 
Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Forgot to ask you for a direct quote or citation, so I'm doing that now

Kari Lake: “Obviously, I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and I think the Supreme Court, I have a good feeling that they’re going to do the right thing this time. And again, I’ll echo what Steve just said, we have a great law on the books right now, if that happens, we will be a state where we will not be taking the lives of our unborn anymore.” 
Kari Lake: “I’m incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that’s already on the books. I believe it’s ARS 13-3603. So it will prohibit abortion in Arizona except to save the life of a mother. And I think we’re going to be setting the, paving the way and setting course for other states to follow.”
Host: “The new law banning abortion or the new law banning abortion in Arizona after 15 weeks, there’s that law and there’s a territorial era law which bans all abortion. Zippo. Over. Which law do you think should take effect?”
Kari Lake: “My personal belief is that all life matters, all life counts, and all life is precious. And I don’t believe in abortion. I think the older law is going to go into effect. That’s what I believe will happen.” 
Host: “OK, and you approve of that? What, at conception?”
Kari Lake: “I believe life begins at conception.”
Host: “What do we do about abortion pills? What do we do about it?”
 Kari Lake: “I don’t think abortion pills should be legal.”
 
(Edit, thank you for the citation, )
Please point to where you have a problem with what she said.
 
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Calling 60 - 70% of the electorate sinners or, at least, sinful isn’t the best political strategy. Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse.
Forgot to ask you for a direct quote or citation, so I'm doing that now

Kari Lake: “Obviously, I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and I think the Supreme Court, I have a good feeling that they’re going to do the right thing this time. And again, I’ll echo what Steve just said, we have a great law on the books right now, if that happens, we will be a state where we will not be taking the lives of our unborn anymore.” 
Kari Lake: “I’m incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that’s already on the books. I believe it’s ARS 13-3603. So it will prohibit abortion in Arizona except to save the life of a mother. And I think we’re going to be setting the, paving the way and setting course for other states to follow.”
Host: “The new law banning abortion or the new law banning abortion in Arizona after 15 weeks, there’s that law and there’s a territorial era law which bans all abortion. Zippo. Over. Which law do you think should take effect?”
Kari Lake: “My personal belief is that all life matters, all life counts, and all life is precious. And I don’t believe in abortion. I think the older law is going to go into effect. That’s what I believe will happen.” 
Host: “OK, and you approve of that? What, at conception?”
Kari Lake: “I believe life begins at conception.”
Host: “What do we do about abortion pills? What do we do about it?”
 Kari Lake: “I don’t think abortion pills should be legal.”
 
(Edit, thank you for the citation, )
Please point to where you have a problem with what she said.
I disagree with her on virtually everything she said there. More to the point, so does the electorate. We have people on the bored arguing that her unpopularity is inexplicable and that someone is cooking the books, when actually, her unpopularity is easily understandable, and her abortion stance is amongst the reasons.
 
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Got a comment on the election theft in the two biggest counties in AZ? Didn't think so

How about how Gallego left his wife when she was nine months pregnant?
 
Vanillia Aids!!!
@HHusky
"Also, saying you “changed [your] mind” a mere two years later actually makes you look even worse."
Im not seeing where she said she changed her mind in your citation. and I don't see anything about "cooking the books"
You can disagree with her position but by just looking at the #s from this election, 60-70% is a flawed statistic when the senate race is currently 49-48 with majority red districts still being counted plus MC We'll have to wait and see what "the electorate" says at the final tally
By your statement "we have people on the board" am I to understand that you are a resident in AZ?
 
Kari Lake seeks to moderate her position on abortion, says she opposes a federal ban
She has to be saying she's changed her mind. There's no way to reconcile the two positions she's taken.
This thread is the discussion of her being cheated (i.e., the books being cooked) because some poasters can't explain her loss and other AZ GOP wins. I can. Abortion is one of two or three good reasons why some GOP voters rejected her.
So it's your opinion/ conjecture that she has to be saying it instead of her actually saying it?
you didn't point to anything specific but just said I disagree with it all.
She stated her beliefs then commented on how she felt about the law on the books and then restated her fundamental beliefs on abortion.
How you got a big contradiction out of what you posted is not the giant glaring flip flop you believe it says.
 
@HHusky
Further, your second article is very careful to cherry pick portions of what she said and imply her mearing is what the author is claiming.
That's exactly what they do to Trump.
No I didn't miss your point I know exactly what you are trying to say.
 
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@HHusky
Further, your second article is very careful to cherry pick portions of what she said and imply her mearing is what the author is claiming.
That's exactly what they do to Trump.
No I didn't miss your point I know exactly what you are trying to say.
She changed her mind, or she thinks there can be a compromise with what she termed "the ultimate sin". I don't think many people care which of the two it is. Either way, it helps explain why she could lose while other Republicans could win.
 
many of Daddy's AZ voters don't believe that she really did
she isn't being cheated
she's just losing
abortion is one of a few reasons for that
 
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@HHusky
Further, your second article is very careful to cherry pick portions of what she said and imply her mearing is what the author is claiming.
That's exactly what they do to Trump.
No I didn't miss your point I know exactly what you are trying to say.
She changed her mind, or she thinks there can be a compromise with what she termed "the ultimate sin". I don't think many people care which of the two it is. Either way, it helps explain why she could lose while other Republicans could win.
She can still have her personal belief but she has to follow the laws that the people voted for until those laws are changed...by the people.
Every single person who runs for office has to come to terms with this fact, except Democrats of course who will ignore what the people really want that they work for (us)
(edit to be fair some republicans are not much better in some cases)
She can still be an effective elected official and do the job while her personal beliefs do not align with every singe voter.
You posted an obscure quote and when asked for citations you deceptively only provided one and then brought another one after I called you to point to the issue and you moved the goal posts changed from "she said it" to "she has to mean it" citing a deceptive article as your proof.
Deceptive and dishonest!
Weak sauce man!

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