Do you think rat voters will ever wake up?

It's a not Trump vote for a lot people, sure. Kamala is the last ditch high profile option. The Dems want Michelle Obama, who I think both sides can agree would be a tougher challenge to Trump based on name and reputation alone. But she has no interest. Everyone else is four years away at least. I like Shapiro, personally, but right now nobody knows who he is.
Kamala isn't the first choice or even the 10th for a lot of voters on the left. I knew she was a waste of time back when everyone thought she'd destroy Pence in the debates, but then she wasn't even close. And Pence is the most boring man to walk the face of planet Earth. You have to suck to not be able to out-debate him. I expect her to giggle and say "I'm talking" to Trump about 10 times as well minimum during the debate, and nothing of value will be said or accomplished. Can't imagine if she had debated Vance. She would've made that dopey bitch (even this MAGA circlejerk board knows he is, don't deny it) look competent.
There really is no one else. So it's Trump vs not Trump. Same as it ever was. Take your pick.
Just for shits and giggles, list the policy differences between Mrs. Worf and Kameltoe? Hell, even barry. Still getting no policy recommendations from the NeverTrumpers. Just BS about character.
It's not about policy. Michelle Obama could go up in front of everyone, say "I'm running for President" and probably get half the vote. She doesn't need to do shit because that's not what this election is about. I'm just pointing out what the Dems likely wanted. I think it's obviously they didn't want Kamala unless they had to.
 
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It's a not Trump vote for a lot people, sure. Kamala is the last ditch high profile option. The Dems want Michelle Obama, who I think both sides can agree would be a tougher challenge to Trump based on name and reputation alone. But she has no interest. Everyone else is four years away at least. I like Shapiro, personally, but right now nobody knows who he is.
Kamala isn't the first choice or even the 10th for a lot of voters on the left. I knew she was a waste of time back when everyone thought she'd destroy Pence in the debates, but then she wasn't even close. And Pence is the most boring man to walk the face of planet Earth. You have to suck to not be able to out-debate him. I expect her to giggle and say "I'm talking" to Trump about 10 times as well minimum during the debate, and nothing of value will be said or accomplished. Can't imagine if she had debated Vance. She would've made that dopey bitch (even this MAGA circlejerk board knows he is, don't deny it) look competent.
There really is no one else. So it's Trump vs not Trump. Same as it ever was. Take your pick.
Just for shits and giggles, list the policy differences between Mrs. Worf and Kameltoe? Hell, even barry. Still getting no policy recommendations from the NeverTrumpers. Just BS about character.
Infrastructure Week and a healthcare plan are coming, just ask 2016-2020.
 
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It is bullshit. Biden should never have run or at the very least had real primaries. The problem is if Harris wins, there may be no primary in 2028 either. For people opposed to Trump, what are we supposed to do? She all that stands between us and Mr Trump.
What is she standing in the way of with Trump?
 
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Umm Vance is brilliant. I am not sure if I am reading your post correctly, if not my apologies, but the man is straight up smarter than anyone you or I probably know. Not only is he smart but he is self made with zero help from his skin color or sex. He is 39 and already very accomplished as a business owner and investor. He did all that after having been raised by a drugged out mother and a very rough grandmother.
He might not have been my first pick but that guy has come through a lot to get where he is. Private school Headboard, with two professor parents, has had none of his hardships. The hardest work she did was blowing Slick Willy. If you look close, you can see the sun setting through the back of her throat as proof.
Vance is a plus for this ticket. No one will come close to out thinking him on a debate stage. That goes for Headboard or whoever she chooses as her VP. They can't hold a candle to the guy and that is precisely why the msm is trying to destroy him as we speak. They are deathly afraid he will be a political success and then there will be 8 more years of Vance after Trump.
 
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But it should be about policy. It isn't because our public school system doesn't teach history, economics, science and math. Because the MSM doesn't do any of these nor any dem candidates. Someone thinks that Vance is a worse candidate than Headboard, but for some reason doesn't set out any policy reasons why. An America First patriot versus an America Last commie.
 
Policy isn't a back seat. If Harris had Trump policies and vice versa I'd vote for Harris
It's not complicated. You're trying justify a vote that's all
Vote for Harris. Free country.
 
Only one candidate has said they will ban fracking and as someone who works with Lufkin, Western, Dura, and other massive oil and gas field companies, including one in China, it’s an easy choice for me based on that alone. Throw in her support for the Green New Deal, which would destroy the US economy, and dozens of other silly ideas she has authored as a senator or supported with votes.

VP Harris faces backlash in crucial swing state after her 'disastrous' anti-fracking position resurfaces | Fox News
 
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It is bullshit. Biden should never have run or at the very least had real primaries. The problem is if Harris wins, there may be no primary in 2028 either. For people opposed to Trump, what are we supposed to do? She all that stands between us and Mr Trump.
Why yes Trump doesn't want communism but your candidate and you propose only communism It's not like the communist ever actually killed anyone. Those are vicious rumors.
 
Fully vetted my ass. Dems view border security with the same enthusiasm that they support honest elections.https://ace.mu.nu/
The DHS Refuses to Administer DNA Tests to Illegal Aliens, to Check to See If They're Wanted Criminals
—Disinformation Expert Ace
Of course.
Luke Rosiak:
The Department of Homeland Security has refused to follow a law mandating it take DNA samples from illegal immigrants taken into custody, which would identify violent criminals and child traffickers, employees told the U.S. Senate this week.
Speaking to senators on Tuesday, three former WMD officials presented evidence that DHS and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) had blocked their efforts to comply with a 2005 law, then retaliated against them when they sounded the alarm about the lawbreaking.
"Given the enormous potential of DNA collection to facility solving crimes, we took our job seriously," Fred Wynn said.
Law enforcement experts from CBP's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) unit were tasked with implementing a mandatory program to DNA-test illegals. But higher-ups at DHS were so opposed to the law that they continuously thwarted it, eventually disbanding the entire WMD division, the whistleblowers say. Disbanding the division may have opened the United States to a WMD attack, in addition to criminals crossing the border.
The disbanding also allowed hundreds of thousands of children to stay with people who claimed to be relatives, but who may have been child labor or sex traffickers. DNA testing is the only reliable way to ensure that children aren't coming across the border with traffickers, or being taken to live with them by U.S. officials as "sponsors."

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Jones said the WMD team had its responsibilities stripped, and were told to come to work and simply sit and do nothing. In one case, one team member was told to report to a new desk that had no internet, phone, or power.

"Certain senior officials were hell-bent on slow-rolling any process or pilot program that enabled DNA collection," he said.
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Mike Taylor, the third WMD whistleblower, said the men have repeatedly reached out to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, but have received no corrective action. Meanwhile, those who retaliated against the men have been promoted.

Janet Napolitano, then the DHS, asked that the law be suspended for a while, then phased in gradually. Eric Holder allowed this.
And the "phase-in gradually" became what it was always intended to be -- a "never phase-in at all" order.

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The report points to an illegal immigrant who committed multiple sexual assaults in Arizona in 1997. Though the individual had the DNA of the perpetrator, they could not find a match, since the suspect was not in the system. The crime was only solved in 2019 because the suspect went on to go to prison for another crime, at which point he had his DNA taken.

DHS then began punishing whistleblowers who called attention to this deliberate negligence to enforce a law. Read the article for that.
 
It is bullshit. Biden should never have run or at the very least had real primaries. The problem is if Harris wins, there may be no primary in 2028 either. For people opposed to Trump, what are we supposed to do? She all that stands between us and Mr Trump.
What are you supposed to do? Demand your vote back! Tell your leadership you want an open nominating process so that you can at least let your voting right be exercised by you or at least the people you put in office with your vote who represent you. As it stands now, Headboard is it whether you like it or not. Your leadership clearly does not care what the fuck you think.
Hes just like the rest of the Rats. He’ll vote for a shoehorn if it keeps Trump out of the Whitehouse.
 
It is bullshit. Biden should never have run or at the very least had real primaries. The problem is if Harris wins, there may be no primary in 2028 either. For people opposed to Trump, what are we supposed to do? She all that stands between us and Mr Trump.
What are you supposed to do? Demand your vote back! Tell your leadership you want an open nominating process so that you can at least let your voting right be exercised by you or at least the people you put in office with your vote who represent you. As it stands now, Headboard is it whether you like it or not. Your leadership clearly does not care what the fuck you think.
Hes just like the rest of the Rats. He’ll vote for a shoehorn if it keeps Trump out of the Whitehouse.
I'd probably vote for a shoehorn to keep a dem out of the White House but I could still tell you what priorities the shoehorn had that got my vote. Mindless criticism of Trump which leftards specialize in doesn't count.
 
Imagine this happens on the GOP side. Trump wins nomination. Decides to drop out for whatever reason. GOP elders like McConnell pick Nicki Haley for us. Half the party would absolutely revolt over that. Dems just go along with it. They are not critical thinkers and they do not care about democracy or the ideals it represents. Whatever the party apparatus tells them to do they do.
It’s a secular cult. My insane mom said just two weeks ago before Biden bailed that Kamala was “too dumb” to be President. She was pissed people were trying g to remove Joe.
Today, her Facebook feed is a celebration of Kamala. It’s ridiculous behavior from an otherwise intellligent person and shows how propaganda works since all she watches is MSNBC and CNN
Yup, my sister is all in on Kamela... ugh.
 
Hell have a debate and online poll and have the electors chosen that way.... at least it would be better than just annointing her....
 
Hell have a debate and online poll and have the electors chosen that way.... at least it would be better than just annointing her....
that online poll would be hacked by Gushing Grannies, Fapple and Hitler Did Nothing Wrong before you could blink.
 
If I was a Democrat, I'd be protesting at the DNC....
they probably would’ve protested more if we were still a year out from the election. Right now having a plan is better than no plan at all, though with Kamala that’s still debatable. But they don’t have time to try and vet multiple people at this point.
 
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