Deep thoughts

[haie]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

Sounds like Oregon *should* have been butt slammed by Beavlet and Cal. All is well in Meatville.

 

[haie]

Is he really that bad? Aside from Jen screwing you over you guys prob would have won the pac

Petersen takes a lot of crap, but he did pretty well overall. He's just a good coach, not an elite one, and 2019 was pathetic.

I haven't followed the Doogs much since the Plandemic outside of Saturdays, but I just have a bad feeling about Jimmy. Everyone sez the talent is there so he ought to be able to control the North. I think Mario got lucky that one year and isn't too bright. The Pac 12 is pretty weak right now. If he's a great coach, he'll figure out a way to win it.

Mario got lucky last year or the year before that?

He had a senior team in 2019 that was tired of getting their asses kicked by Washington, WSU, and Utah. Your players were crying and your coaching jumping up and down screaming after beating an 8 and 5 Washington team.

Last year they lost to the two least talented teams in the conference and didn't win their own division, and then got the Air Raid general Clay Helton, so yeah I'd say they got lucky and that's not even up for debate.

Imagine shouting "Two in a Row!!!" while you're getting pumped by some orphaned team called the Cyclones.

You're a dumb fuck quook who should go back to FishDuck.

No donation badge. Shocker.

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

The people who like Petersen the most tend to not like the Jimmy hire the most

The people who don't like Petersen the most tend to like the Jimmy hire

That is me. I dislike Petersen, and thus far like Jimmy. Of course that’s me speaking from an Oregon perspective. I actually think toothy is a good dude who just couldn’t take the caring anymore, while Lake seems like all hat and no cattle.

You disliked a rival coach that gifted you two wins when you were clearly going to lose?

Weird.

I wasn’t going to lose anything, other than WiFi in Hawaii.

You don’t think Jimmy Lake has been what every Duck fan wanted for UW?

Instead of one of the most respected, albeit burned out and at his ceiling, coaches in the country they wind up with a first time HC that Peter Principled his way into the job. Short of losing to OSU and Utah, which almost happened, Jimmy has done everything perfectly. He can’t recruit, he can’t hire or retain assistants, he couldn’t even keep enough guys away from the Covid to field a team.

Maybe I’m wrong, and if I am I’ll claim it. From my perspective though, Jimmy is awesome.

 

[haie]

The people who like Petersen the most tend to not like the Jimmy hire the most

The people who don't like Petersen the most tend to like the Jimmy hire

That is me. I dislike Petersen, and thus far like Jimmy. Of course that’s me speaking from an Oregon perspective. I actually think toothy is a good dude who just couldn’t take the caring anymore, while Lake seems like all hat and no cattle.

You disliked a rival coach that gifted you two wins when you were clearly going to lose?

Weird.

You don’t think Jimmy Lake has been what every Duck fan wanted for UW?

Stopped reading here. Dumb.

You don't know what he is, nor do I.

Did Oregon pull Urban or some elite coach after Helfrich was fired? No.

As a matter of fact every hire after Bellotti has been the same kind of reach or nepotism hire, including Meat. No different than any other school in this conference, despite the "only football matters" stigma attached to your shitty school.

Also no donation badge. lol

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

2020 in the Pac-12 was a half assed exhibition to salvage some TV dollars and staunch the bleeding of unsustainable athletics spending.

It seems you’re understating the fallout. I thought UW was down to no WRs against hobo Stanford? Or is that just the JonDon offense? I thought Typhoid Puka wiped out half the team. Tryon and Levi sitting out didn’t hurt? I don’t know what else y’all had going on, but removing the toothy brain of the operation couldn’t have helped.

For Oregon they had one week in the spring and a bare bones fall camp. Since no one wants to be in Eugene with no school in session the players went home and got fat. Or not fat enough. A lot of them are from the south, and since there are anti sodomy laws there they couldn’t participate in Flex Friday. It wasn’t exactly business as usual.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

I don’t think UW got any spring practices. COVID shut things down over and just after St Patrick’s day and UW normally starts spring practice around April 1st.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.
[/b]
I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

It can.

For Oregon it hasn't.

I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.

 

[lawsandl]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

 

[lawsandl]

I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.
[/b]
I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

It can.

For Oregon it hasn't.

I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.

Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.

 

[RaceBannon]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

But Washington post of the day

Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that

 

[YellowSnow]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

But Washington post of the day

Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that

Peterman never got to play a TUFF Wisco sqaud in the Rose Bowl. Just Satan and Urbs.

 

[dnc]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2.[/b] He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

And then to 4-3.

People forget that.

 

[BleachedAnusDawg]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2.[/b] He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

And then to 4-3.

People forget that.

He's on the Rick Neuheisal plan.

 

[YellowSnow]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

But Washington post of the day

Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that

I should also add that Pete's greatest crime against humanity, was not the 3 NY6 losses, but rather, not putting the boot to Meat's throat in 2018 and 19. He single handedly let those buttholes get back into game.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

But Washington post of the day

Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that

Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.

 

[BroadcastingDawg]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

Did you just refer to a college football program as “Bellevue on steroids.”

Jesus fuck you are lost.

 

[Quietcowskee]

Is he really that bad? Aside from Jen screwing you over you guys prob would have won the pac

Petersen takes a lot of crap, but he did pretty well overall. He's just a good coach, not an elite one, and 2019 was pathetic.

I haven't followed the Doogs much since the Plandemic outside of Saturdays, but I just have a bad feeling about Jimmy. Everyone sez the talent is there so he ought to be able to control the North. I think Mario got lucky that one year and isn't too bright. The Pac 12 is pretty weak right now. If he's a great coach, he'll figure out a way to win it.

Mario got lucky last year or the year before that?

Mario was a .500 coach last year.

 

[dnc]

...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

Narrator: They won't...

I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.

I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.

My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.

Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.

What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.

But Washington post of the day

Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that

I should also add that Pete's greatest crime against humanity, was not the 3 NY6 losses, but rather, not putting the boot to Meat's throat in 2018 and 19. He single handedly let those buttholes get back into game.

This isn't actually true. Winning one or two of those NY6 games would have done far more for the national perception around the program than winning one or two of those Duck games.

But I agree completely they were a massive failure (and far less excusable than the NY6 failures).