Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

CallMeBigErn said:
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
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One day we will be asked HOW Ukraine is supposed to fight Russia and recover lost territory, like we know the definitive answer. It's not unlike the question about HOW we're going to become less reliant on fossil fuels over the next few decades. It's a deflection. The truth of the situations and the need for a solution need to be accepted before any further discussion. If not, there will never be a solution. And any discussion we do have in here is all bullshit anyway because none of us know the definitive answers. The nuance of this is lost in here. Denial of problems and and an inability to see past their noses, let alone years into the future, is commonplace. Maintenance fees are required to help prevent even the POSSIBILITY of something happening down the road. This is what security is. So you don't pay a larger price later. The analogies are endless.
Even that question is less of a deflection than asking why nightclubs are open, however.
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I think what has been missing all along is the defining what winning actually looks like, is that achievable, what does that cost and how long does that take.
 
Bob_C said:
CallMeBigErn said:
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Lost cause explaining complicated geopolitical situations to this lot
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One day we will be asked HOW Ukraine is supposed to fight Russia and recover lost territory, like we know the definitive answer. It's not unlike the question about HOW we're going to become less reliant on fossil fuels over the next few decades. It's a deflection. The truth of the situations and the need for a solution need to be accepted before any further discussion. If not, there will never be a solution. And any discussion we do have in here is all bullshit anyway because none of us know the definitive answers. The nuance of this is lost in here. Denial of problems and and an inability to see past their noses, let alone years into the future, is commonplace. Maintenance fees are required to help prevent even the POSSIBILITY of something happening down the road. This is what security is. So you don't pay a larger price later. The analogies are endless.
Even that question is less of a deflection than asking why nightclubs are open, however.
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I think what has been missing all along is the defining what winning actually looks like, is that achievable, what does that cost and how long does that take.
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Sounds racist
 
RaceBannon said:
Bob_C said:
CallMeBigErn said:
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Lost cause explaining complicated geopolitical situations to this lot
Click to expand...
One day we will be asked HOW Ukraine is supposed to fight Russia and recover lost territory, like we know the definitive answer. It's not unlike the question about HOW we're going to become less reliant on fossil fuels over the next few decades. It's a deflection. The truth of the situations and the need for a solution need to be accepted before any further discussion. If not, there will never be a solution. And any discussion we do have in here is all bullshit anyway because none of us know the definitive answers. The nuance of this is lost in here. Denial of problems and and an inability to see past their noses, let alone years into the future, is commonplace. Maintenance fees are required to help prevent even the POSSIBILITY of something happening down the road. This is what security is. So you don't pay a larger price later. The analogies are endless.
Even that question is less of a deflection than asking why nightclubs are open, however.
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I think what has been missing all along is the defining what winning actually looks like, is that achievable, what does that cost and how long does that take.
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Sounds racist
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Never thought business 101, where someone asks you for an investment and in turn you ask for business plan was racist. But here we are.
 
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Bob_C said:
CallMeBigErn said:
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Lost cause explaining complicated geopolitical situations to this lot
Click to expand...
One day we will be asked HOW Ukraine is supposed to fight Russia and recover lost territory, like we know the definitive answer. It's not unlike the question about HOW we're going to become less reliant on fossil fuels over the next few decades. It's a deflection. The truth of the situations and the need for a solution need to be accepted before any further discussion. If not, there will never be a solution. And any discussion we do have in here is all bullshit anyway because none of us know the definitive answers. The nuance of this is lost in here. Denial of problems and and an inability to see past their noses, let alone years into the future, is commonplace. Maintenance fees are required to help prevent even the POSSIBILITY of something happening down the road. This is what security is. So you don't pay a larger price later. The analogies are endless.
Even that question is less of a deflection than asking why nightclubs are open, however.
Click to expand...
I think what has been missing all along is the defining what winning actually looks like, is that achievable, what does that cost and how long does that take.
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Appreciate the sensible question. That's what keeping an open mind is, and it's civil. I agree that there needs to be at least a bit more of a plan, globally, not just America. We're either in or we're not. This waffling won't do. What you ask is an incredibly complex question, and I guarantee the best military minds in the world don't know the answer, but we have to work at increasing the odds of success, however it's defined. We have to be committed.
I like the idea of a committed NATO 5-year fund that Stoltenberg has been proposing. It's been getting mixed reception but the overall idea is sensible, I think. 100 billion commitment annually for five years (that was his proposal), obligated commitment from every NATO member and it would also reduce America's overall commitment. Win win over here. You have to know what you're working with before a military strategy can even be formed. Right now Ukraine has had to ration and re-strategize over and over again because they never know what assistance they're going to receive. It's not sustainable to play whack-a-mole with assistance. There needs to be an annual commitment that you can budget around.
That's about all I have on this question rn. I'm Tug tired.
 
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Btw this was a great read in Foreign Affairs. Really shows the complexity of what we're dealing with here. The future of Russia has many possible paths, most of them damaging unless they have a cultural and political Renaissance and become France. I personally wouldn't take that bet.

The Five Futures of Russia
 
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I don’t totally agree with this opinion, I believe the Soviet Union eventually lost the economic and political power to control so many different ethnic countries and so much land mass, but if you do think about it, less than 20 years ago Hillary Clinton was palling around with Medvedev and the “recharge” novelty button. Obama was mocking Mitt Romney about the 1980s calling for their Russian policy back. Then the 2014 coup we backed occurred for still unexplained reasons, US politicians had family members making big money for Ukrainian companies, and suddenly Russia was enemy #1 for trying to protect themselves by moving on Crimea.

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Awfully quiet in here after Ukraine aid was passed across the aisle. Bipartisanship is hard to accept, I get it. Trump/Johnson wouldn't allow the GOP dream, bipartisan brokered border bill that was clamored for to even be voted on despite the fact that it would have passed. It was clearly never about the border in the first place. It was about having something for Trump to campaign against. It's clear as day and the wannabe demagogue has said as much. The GOP of course cited the packaged Ukraine aid as the reason not to vote on the border bill. That was their excuse anyway, and tried to leverage. 6 months later that Ukraine aid passed in a separate package anyway, with bipartisan support. Still no border bill. Had it right in their hands and threw it away for Donald Trump. Donald fucking Trump. What a joke the GOP is. You can't make this shit up. The party is in ruins. MAGA and Donald Trump have destroyed everything good about American conservatism. There was plenty. MAGA and Donald Trump are not conservatives. The sooner you get that shit through your head the better.
 
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The border bill was garbage. HTH
The border didn't need a bill. It needed your retarded president not to have 93 EOs to open it up
This isn't MSNBC. Take that shit to the dumbass sheep board
 
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Awfully quiet in here after Ukraine aid was passed across the aisle. Bipartisanship is hard to accept, I get it. Trump/Johnson wouldn't allow the GOP dream, bipartisan brokered border bill that was clamored for to even be voted on despite the fact that it would have passed. It was clearly never about the border in the first place. It was about having something for Trump to campaign against. It's clear as day and the wannabe demagogue has said as much. The GOP of course cited the packaged Ukraine aid as the reason not to vote on the border bill. That was their excuse anyway, and tried to leverage. 6 months later that Ukraine aid passed in a separate package anyway, with bipartisan support. Still no border bill. Had it right in their hands and threw it away for Donald Trump. Donald fucking Trump. What a joke the GOP is. You can't make this shit up. The party is in ruins. MAGA and Donald Trump have destroyed everything good about American conservatism. There was plenty. MAGA and Donald Trump are not conservatives. The sooner you get that shit through your head the better.
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Liars everywhere on the Left but this Ern guy seems pathological in his partisanship. Send more money and do it faster, dipshits.

Have you volunteered yet, Rambo?
Russia is capturing its biggest swath of territory since July 2022, as Kyiv desperately awaits US weaponry
Analysis: Russia is capturing its biggest swath of territory since July 2022, as Kyiv desperately awaits US weaponry | CNN

CNN — 
The five-month wait before US Congress approved $61 billion in military aid to Ukraine may have caused lasting damage that will be felt on the frontlines for months to come.
Russian forces have used the “artillery drought” hampering Ukraine’s defenses since December to push forward on the eastern front near Avdiivka, making the largest advance since the early months of the war. Moscow’s progress has prompted warnings from senior Ukrainian military officials of a possible threat to Kyiv’s supply lines and hubs in the east, which are now perilously close to being in range of superior Russian firepower.
 
CallMeBigErn said:
Awfully quiet in here after Ukraine aid was passed across the aisle. Bipartisanship is hard to accept, I get it. Trump/Johnson wouldn't allow the GOP dream, bipartisan brokered border bill that was clamored for to even be voted on despite the fact that it would have passed. It was clearly never about the border in the first place. It was about having something for Trump to campaign against. It's clear as day and the wannabe demagogue has said as much. The GOP of course cited the packaged Ukraine aid as the reason not to vote on the border bill. That was their excuse anyway, and tried to leverage. 6 months later that Ukraine aid passed in a separate package anyway, with bipartisan support. Still no border bill. Had it right in their hands and threw it away for Donald Trump. Donald fucking Trump. What a joke the GOP is. You can't make this shit up. The party is in ruins. MAGA and Donald Trump have destroyed everything good about American conservatism. There was plenty. MAGA and Donald Trump are not conservatives. The sooner you get that shit through your head the better.
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The commie in this one runs deep!
 
CallMeBigErn said:
Awfully quiet in here after Ukraine aid was passed across the aisle. Bipartisanship is hard to accept, I get it. Trump/Johnson wouldn't allow the GOP dream, bipartisan brokered border bill that was clamored for to even be voted on despite the fact that it would have passed. It was clearly never about the border in the first place. It was about having something for Trump to campaign against. It's clear as day and the wannabe demagogue has said as much. The GOP of course cited the packaged Ukraine aid as the reason not to vote on the border bill. That was their excuse anyway, and tried to leverage. 6 months later that Ukraine aid passed in a separate package anyway, with bipartisan support. Still no border bill. Had it right in their hands and threw it away for Donald Trump. Donald fucking Trump. What a joke the GOP is. You can't make this shit up. The party is in ruins. MAGA and Donald Trump have destroyed everything good about American conservatism. There was plenty. MAGA and Donald Trump are not conservatives. The sooner you get that shit through your head the better.
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Leftards lie and love to be lied to. What in the dems border bill would have reduced illegal aliens entering the country to go on US and state welfare? The republican House passed an actual border security bill where it has sat on Chucky "Open Borders" Schumer's desk. The stupid runs deep in this one.
 
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