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America's greatest MUST WIN military victory of all time?
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Das is gut.
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And they would have lost with them
People forget we're 0-1-1 vs. Canada.
And lost with them
Your utopia of soft faggots is not the USA that saved freedom
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Mad_Son
New Fish
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
I don't see you. Is professor emeritus Bannon in the school house?
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
We don't deal in hypothetical but IFL counter factual history arguing. The one @BearsWiin posed is an all time favorite, but it's full of semi truck sized holes that even Ahmed could find with no problem.
1- It's a hell of a lot different freeing slaves on some Caribbean Islands and compensating their owners by Act of Parliament than the entirety of the Southern colonies in circa 1833. Freeing the Caribbean slaves was something like 40% of the entire British treasury's revenue in that year. As Race points out the cotton gin was invented well before 1833 and the BE had no problem importing massive amounts of slave picked cotton for their textile mills. Furthermore, if we? revolted over taxes in the 1760 and 70s, you think the south would have just gone along with an Act of Parliament like this peaceably? Doubtful.
2- Would America has ended up at the world's largest economy by the late 1870's if we stayed in the BE? Doubtful. We can bash jingoistic, messianic, Manifest Destiny all we want, but there was something unique in the American experience that wouldn't have been there if we stayed with Britain. The world was better of with Pax Americana succeeding Pax Britannica than it would have been other wise.
Antietam is a glaring omission and the win here played a decisive role on the diplomatic front vis-a-vis Europe. But the Civil War above all else was about attrition and the would the North being willing to sacrifice enough of its sons to kill enough rebs to compel their surrender. People forget that in the modern history no other nation sacrificed a higher percentage of its fighting age males in a war than the South in the Civil War other than Serbia in WWI. Germany and Sovs in WWII don't come close. The South wasn't giving up w/o a significant amount of boys in blue going home in pine boxes.
Lee didn't have to continue an invasion of the North in 1863. He just had to continue the winning streak from Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville and Northern public opinion could very well have started to collapse. Remember, they don't call Antietam the "High water mark of the Confederacy" and there's no "Antietam Address".
BearsWiin
New Fish
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Love it or Leave it! POTD
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Love it or Leave it! POTD
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Is that the time you had a threesome with Laura Ingalls and her sister Mary?
Respect.
BearsWiin
New Fish
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
We don't deal in hypothetical but IFL counter factual history arguing. The one @BearsWiin posed is an all time favorite, but it's full of semi truck sized holes that even Ahmed could find with no problem.
1- It's a hell of a lot different freeing slaves on some Caribbean Islands and compensating their owners by Act of Parliament than the entirety of the Southern colonies in circa 1833. Freeing the Caribbean slaves was something like 40% of the entire British treasury's revenue in that year. As Race points out the cotton gin was invented well before 1833 and the BE had no problem importing massive amounts of slave picked cotton for their textile mills. Furthermore, if we? revolted over taxes in the 1760 and 70s, you think the south would have just gone along with an Act of Parliament like this peaceably? Doubtful.
2- Would America has ended up at the world's largest economy by the late 1870's if we stayed in the BE? Doubtful. We can bash jingoistic, messianic, Manifest Destiny all we want, but there was something unique in the American experience that wouldn't have been there if we stayed with Britain. The world was better of with Pax Americana succeeding Pax Britannica than it would have been other wise.
If Jared Diamond teaches us anything, it's that superior technology and organization win out, and that geography plays a huge part. "American" exceptionalism isn't as exceptional as you'd like to believe. Perhaps the most exceptional element was the successive waves of immigration that made industrialization and expansion possible - I don't know that an English-controlled America would have attracted/welcomed so many.
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
We don't deal in hypothetical but IFL counter factual history arguing. The one @BearsWiin posed is an all time favorite, but it's full of semi truck sized holes that even Ahmed could find with no problem.
1- It's a hell of a lot different freeing slaves on some Caribbean Islands and compensating their owners by Act of Parliament than the entirety of the Southern colonies in circa 1833. Freeing the Caribbean slaves was something like 40% of the entire British treasury's revenue in that year. As Race points out the cotton gin was invented well before 1833 and the BE had no problem importing massive amounts of slave picked cotton for their textile mills. Furthermore, if we? revolted over taxes in the 1760 and 70s, you think the south would have just gone along with an Act of Parliament like this peaceably? Doubtful.
2- Would America has ended up at the world's largest economy by the late 1870's if we stayed in the BE? Doubtful. We can bash jingoistic, messianic, Manifest Destiny all we want, but there was something unique in the American experience that wouldn't have been there if we stayed with Britain. The world was better of with Pax Americana succeeding Pax Britannica than it would have been other wise.
If Jared Diamond teaches us anything, it's that superior technology and organization win out, and that geography plays a huge part. "American" exceptionalism isn't as exceptional as you'd like to believe. Perhaps the most exceptional element was the successive waves of immigration that made industrialization and expansion possible - I don't know that an English-controlled America would have attracted/welcomed so many.
I'm the #1 fan here of your fellow UCLA academic, Prof. Diamond. In this case, a key piece of the "experience" I'm referring to is the organization we set up. Free of Britain, we were able to go west and prosper. It wasn't pretty for the Indians and Messicans - history usually isn't fair- but we did become the greatest industrial power the world had ever scene which came in handy.
BennyBeaver
New Fish
We don't deal in hypotheticals out here.
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Love it or Leave it! POTD
View attachment 23266
BTW this is a live shot from Rancho Cucamonga this morning. Wish I had caught him in the lot. By the time I got the camera working you couldn't read the amazing amount of shit he has on his car
Like that mass shooter last year
ThomasFremont
New Fish
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Love it or Leave it! POTD
View attachment 23266
BTW this is a live shot from Rancho Cucamonga this morning. Wish I had caught him in the lot. By the time I got the camera working you couldn't read the amazing amount of shit he has on his car
Like that mass shooter last year
So, a Trump voter?
Exactly
There would have been a handful of US colonies because England gave Ohio and Kentucky and the frontier to the Natives for help in the Revolution. No manifest destiny as you said
France isn't selling Louisiana to England
Mexico extends up the West Coast to Canada and from Texas to the French Colony
England supports the SEC leaving because they want the cotton and don't give a fuck about how it is picked. Their noble abandonment of the slave trade in 1807 came after they brought 3 million of them here to fill their field and reproduce.
No one is sending anything to Europe in the 30's because Mexico aligns with Hitler and we have a continent wide war right here.
The US is the Big East in football after Miami and Virginia Tech left
We don't deal in hypotheticals and they taught history when I was in school. You want to hate America that's fine with me. My sister moved to England in 76 and never came back. She had the GUTS to live her conviction not whine about it with the girls in the gym.
Me at school
Love it or Leave it! POTD
View attachment 23266
BTW this is a live shot from Rancho Cucamonga this morning. Wish I had caught him in the lot. By the time I got the camera working you couldn't read the amazing amount of shit he has on his car
Like that mass shooter last year
So, a Trump voter?
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