You guys lose credibility for poignant negativity if you are only negative
All Aboard the hype train
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losers.
Refuse to Lose disagrees with you @haie
TheHB
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There’s a reason for the saying, “truth hurts.” And there is zero credibility in optimism for optimism’s sake.
This is not a 10-win program.
Realistically I don't see UW ever being the massive payroll type thing we see at Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, etc. Apparently the basketball program kind of has something like it so never say never, but seems like a pipe dream to me.
UW's path to getting back to competing for a title is a combination of being a program that probably can spend somewhere between #11-25 and finding some lightning in a bottle like they did with DeBoer/Penix. Not that easy.
Realistic best case is probably the program gets some success and foundation again with Jedd. He goes to another job and we get a coach who is like a Petersen/Harbaugh/Kirby type with a connection to the program who wants to stay instead of just jumping for another job, at least for a while.
HFNY
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Ideally Fisch stays 3-4 seasons minimum because Lake and DeBoer lasted just two (for opposite reasons). Some continuity would be nice because the program was obviously on its back foot and had to scramble once DeBoer bolted post-NC game. Need to stack a couple of more recruiting classes.
I will say that the Congressional decision to allow schools to pay +/- $20 million a year to players will help a school like Washington more than the ones that are privately funded by huuuuuge boosters already.
I think there's a lot of media glazing going on with some of the appointed big spenders. Washington kept all the NFL players on the team last season and had the NC trophy in the building.
My sense is actually fairly positive about how UW or MF handles the money in that they aren't just throwing bags at underwear athletes and washed up 5* QBs. Hopefully that means they are picking the spots intelligently but having said that the lack of olineman picked up last month is a massive questions mark.
PostGameOrangeSlices
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UW won the offseason natty in 2023 and came a quarter away from the real natty.
But they are the Mariners.
UW is not perfect and deserves criticism, but this the annoying minority here acts as if seasons like 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, and 2023 are impossible.
UW is batting about .500 this past decade with 10 win seasons, so they are due for one next year.
UW is 1-4 in major bowl games, but does have an Alamo Bowl win over a ranked Texas too. It would be nice to add more hardware and win a playoff game or two. Petersen's beat up the Pac 12 and lose OOC shtick was frustrating.
9 wins should be the bare minimum for Fisch to keep his job, with the expectation that 2026 is playoff or tarmac.
Anything less is a decrease in the standards.
But they are the Mariners.
UW is not perfect and deserves criticism, but this the annoying minority here acts as if seasons like 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, and 2023 are impossible.
UW is batting about .500 this past decade with 10 win seasons, so they are due for one next year.
UW is 1-4 in major bowl games, but does have an Alamo Bowl win over a ranked Texas too. It would be nice to add more hardware and win a playoff game or two. Petersen's beat up the Pac 12 and lose OOC shtick was frustrating.
9 wins should be the bare minimum for Fisch to keep his job, with the expectation that 2026 is playoff or tarmac.
Anything less is a decrease in the standards.
Sure
Man you sure do get fixated
The current UW approach to player acquisition was compared to the Mariners approach...the current one. Neither is willing to jump into the market with both feet. That's it.
This is the first time I've been in the first group who vocally gives up on a new coach during or even after his first season. I think I see Fisch for what he is and what his finished tenure at UW is going to look like. If he turns it around I'm going to live making fun of myself for being the first to be wrong. I'm sorry that it annoys you so much.
If it helps at all, I'm bound to lose interest in threads like this, and soon, so you won't have to be put out on my account for long.
PostGameOrangeSlices
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it's not that serious, you're much more nuanced with your takes on this topic.
DoogWhisperer
New Fish
how dare you disrespect 01 like that.
UW does CARE about football but they are classic slow strategy and aren't going to be demanding playoffs in the first 3 years of a tenure.
Jimmy had an all time wheels falling off including the blessed push.
Fishman can hang in the 7 win category for at least a three year period before actual heat is applied imo.
I don't think he's the guy. I think his ceiling is winning the conference on a year when things align. We? should at least want a guy whose ceiling is a Championship when things align.
The trouble is I think his floor is high enough the doogs will defend him until the bitter end. Woof snarl.
Jimmy had an all time wheels falling off including the blessed push.
Fishman can hang in the 7 win category for at least a three year period before actual heat is applied imo.
I don't think he's the guy. I think his ceiling is winning the conference on a year when things align. We? should at least want a guy whose ceiling is a Championship when things align.
The trouble is I think his floor is high enough the doogs will defend him until the bitter end. Woof snarl.
The problem with a coach who wins just enough to play in shit bowls and threatens 10 wins once a decade is that he's always viewed as being a few players, or a coordinator change, or some other incremental improvement away from being big time.
PostGameOrangeSlices
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UW has never actually had this problem
dannarc
New Fish
Mariners logic
Just south of Canada
WTE Top 25? Pretty long list of white guys.