2020 Class Prediction
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Ballz
New Fish
Here's mine. Let me doog:
QB: Ethan Garbers
RB: Jay'Veon Sunday
RB: Sam Adams
OL: Gaard Memmelaar
OL: Roger Rosengarten
OL: Geirean Hatchett
OL: Jeffrey Persi
OL: Jernias Tafia
TE: Mark Redman
TE: Ben Yurosek
TE: Kole Taylor
WR: Sawyer Racanelli
WR: Jalen McMillan
WR: Rome Odunze
BUCK: Jaden Navarrette
SAM: Cooper McDonald
BUCK or DL: Jordan Lolohea
DL: Jake Shipley
DB: Ayden Hector
DB: Trey Paster
DB: Jacobe Covington
DB: Makell Esteen
QB: Ethan Garbers
RB: Jay'Veon Sunday
RB: Sam Adams
OL: Gaard Memmelaar
OL: Roger Rosengarten
OL: Geirean Hatchett
OL: Jeffrey Persi
OL: Jernias Tafia
TE: Mark Redman
TE: Ben Yurosek
TE: Kole Taylor
WR: Sawyer Racanelli
WR: Jalen McMillan
WR: Rome Odunze
BUCK: Jaden Navarrette
SAM: Cooper McDonald
BUCK or DL: Jordan Lolohea
DL: Jake Shipley
DB: Ayden Hector
DB: Trey Paster
DB: Jacobe Covington
DB: Makell Esteen
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CallMeBigErn
New Fish
I'm surprised you didn't doog harder than this. Most if not all of these guys are pretty reasonable.
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It would make for a solid, but not spectacular class. OL would be killer though, and so would DBs. Really solid on RB and very good on WR. Killer on TE. Totally underwhelming on the entire D that isn't the back end. This would also be the first class I can recall where the O was better than the D.
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
My turn
QB: Ethan Garbers
RB: Jay'Veon Sunday, Sam Adams II
OL: Gaard Memmelaar, Roger Rosengarten, Geirean Hatchett, Marcus Henderson III
TE: Ben Yurosek, Mark Swayeman
WR: Jalen McMillan, Rome Odunze
OLB: Sawyer Racanelli, Sa'Vell Smalls
ILB: Cooper McDonald
DL: Jake Shipley
DB: Jacobe Covington, Ayden Hector, Makell Esteen, Trey Paster
Beer me while I WOOF!
QB: Ethan Garbers
RB: Jay'Veon Sunday, Sam Adams II
OL: Gaard Memmelaar, Roger Rosengarten, Geirean Hatchett, Marcus Henderson III
TE: Ben Yurosek, Mark Swayeman
WR: Jalen McMillan, Rome Odunze
OLB: Sawyer Racanelli, Sa'Vell Smalls
ILB: Cooper McDonald
DL: Jake Shipley
DB: Jacobe Covington, Ayden Hector, Makell Esteen, Trey Paster
Beer me while I WOOF!
Ballz
New Fish
Yep. I think 21 or 22 is where this class ends up. I think the 2021 O-line talent is very weak. I see we still only have one 2021 O-line offer out after the Spring evaluation period. I think the O-line talent available to them in this class is better than in the 2021 class so I think they need to load up. The good thing about that potential O-line class is there wouldn't be any position overlap. You got two tackles in Rosengarten and Persi, two guards in Hatchett and Memmelaar, and a center in Tafia. That O-line class would fit in very nicely.
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FremontTroll
New Fish
I think its a senior class of 13 counting Whitford and Carty. 4 have left since signing day:https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/56773/post-signing-day-scholarship-chart/p1
That is actually an above average sized senior class. I will actually agree with SAC and say we take at least 22.
Out of a roster of 85 kids you have to expect 5+ unexpected departures due to injury, homesickness, etc. If you are trying to count only kids that are likely to leave early then you will always end up too low this far out because you miss out on the small probabilities that add up.
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
@FremontTroll's math has me as hard as Swaye at a coed nudist tattoo parlor.
Hence, I'll be adding two more:
QB: Ethan Garbers
RB: Jay'Veon Sunday, Sam Adams II
OL: Gaard Memmelaar, Roger Rosengarten, Geirean Hatchett, Marcus Henderson III
TE: Ben Yurosek, Mark Swayeman
WR: Jalen McMillan, Rome Odunze, LV Bunkley Shelton[/b]
OLB: Sawyer Racanelli, Sa'Vell Smalls, Peter Latu[/b]
ILB: Cooper McDonald
DL: Jake Shipley
DB: Jacobe Covington, Ayden Hector, Makell Esteen, Trey Paster
dhdawg
New Fish
QB: Ethan garbers
RB: Sam Adams
RB: Jay'veon (I wouldn't be shocked if he's 2020's Nick Bolton tho)
WR: McMillan
WR: Bryant (this is my doog pick. Barring urbs being at usc prior to the signing period I think we win this battle)
OL: Hatchett, RR, Gaard (brb, jo)
DT: I have no clue. There's not much out there and we're loaded here.
OLB: McDonald (yawn)
OLB: we need to land someone surprising here. My doog pick would be banks.
ILB: fuck Bob gregory
DB: covington, hector, esteen
RB: Sam Adams
RB: Jay'veon (I wouldn't be shocked if he's 2020's Nick Bolton tho)
WR: McMillan
WR: Bryant (this is my doog pick. Barring urbs being at usc prior to the signing period I think we win this battle)
OL: Hatchett, RR, Gaard (brb, jo)
DT: I have no clue. There's not much out there and we're loaded here.
OLB: McDonald (yawn)
OLB: we need to land someone surprising here. My doog pick would be banks.
ILB: fuck Bob gregory
DB: covington, hector, esteen
guntlove
New Fish
Is he though?
My comment about him being 'terrible at his job' was more an assessment of his recruiting work this year... But, special teams was atrocious last year. So that's two out of three parts of his job that he's really not very fucking good at.
ILB coaching wise...
It would be totally unfair to pin Azeem's implosion on Bob Gregory... there was obviously a lot of outside/personal shit at play there. But Gregory certainly wasn't able to slow down the implosion in any way.
Bob deserves credit for BBK... that dude got better every year, and was a machine his last year. But Beirria regressed his senior year. Kyler Manu's been here four years, and he's just as much a worthless lump of shit as he was when he got here. Beavers played pretty well when healthy... and you can't blame the dude's injuries on Gregory. Wellington seems poised for a solid season but he's been here three years and we've gotten very little consistent production out of him to this point. Gregory might be an okay coach... but nothing I've seen out of our ILBs over five years makes me thing he's pretty damn good.
Out of his three major responsibilities....
ILB coaching: okay, not bad but not great either.
Special teams: below average.
Recruiting: a fucking disaster.
guntlove
New Fish
I want to believe on Smalls, Hillsyboat... I just can't. Don't think it happens. Will be so fucking happy to be wrong though.
Last year's class had a bunch of dudes I'd consider true 'level-up' talents when they signed: Bandes, Tuitele, Fautanu, McDuffie, Latu, Nacau, Heimuli, and Turner.
IMO, the only ones that fall into that category in the above 2020 class (discounting smalls) would be: McMillan, Adams, and maybe Rosengarten or Hatchett.
This class, if it's what we end up signing, would be significant step back... and a really fucking disappointing effort on the defensive side.
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
I’d put Redman in the leveling up category for sure and probably Covington but I agree overall it’s not inspiring.
I’m pretty much in GSSNEM mode. Smalls saves the class, otherwise not exciting.
HillsboroDuck
New Fish
Oh and Henderson would be leveling up. He’s the guy I’m least confident in on that list besides Smalls though.
Ballz
New Fish
It won't be a super exciting class but it won't be a disappointment either. We need to load up on offense with better talent so that's what I think they're gonna do. We've had classes dominated by defense recently so it's time to really focus on this pussy ass offense. You look at the offensive class they're lining up and you are looking at a lot of big, physical, tough dudes at every position. Big receivers, big running backs, big TE's. All of them are just big. This class will make our offense bad ass and equal to the talent we already have on defense. It's a meat and potatoes class. Won't be flashy. But will easily be the best class in the Pac-12 in a down year for talent.
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guntlove
New Fish
I hear what you're saying... and I agree (if we actually get Adams/McMillan/Rosengarden/Hatchet) that it would be a pretty solid offensive class. But there's no good reason why our defensive recruiting should have to fall off in order to sign a solid offensive class. It's not just low on numbers defensively (which would be okay), it's way low on fucking talent in a lot of areas. LIPO, I guess.