You all thought this was a playoff team.

[greenblood]

Including @creepycoug

Secretly, even @MikeSeaver

El oh El

Bumpity Bump Bump BUMP!

Miami is buried forever underneath an NFL Stadium.

Oregon looks like ass despite the North being dreck.

Hope you are enjoying your screenshots!!!

Nice comeback.

#year6

I don't see even the doogliest here giving Pete more time.

The leveling up, super cool Clemson, ///, everything Matters bullshit never belonged to me.

I wanted another conference title and a new years 6 bull which after 6 seasons it's clear everything has to fall 100% perfectly for this staff to even be in the realm of upsetting an Iowa/Mich State type of team for that.

I give you shit more out of the Oregon takes. You (and you are certainly not alone on this) buried Cristobal before he even got started. The overrated recruiting chatter has quieted significantly; but the meathead poser tuff guy take still holds here.

He may as yet shit the bed this season. Time will tell. The O offense is almost as shitty as Washington's. That will cost them eventually, particularly on the road.

It's hard to judge Cristobal's skills or lack thereof when he continues to employ an asshat as OC. Cristobal is too chummy with his old friends and wants to give them jerbs, he needs to cut ties with these incompetent lackeys. Arroyo should have been fired at the end of last season. He hasn't found a competent QB to replace Herbert yet either.

Dude. By all accounts Shough (or however you spell it) is a strong successor. I get the frustrations with Herbert but you're a little over the top with it. He's not the most mentally strong guy I've seen play, but the guy can and does make all the throws. He's a little slow and tentative and times, but then again, he's looking at what Eason is looking at: midgets and a tight end. Herbert deals with that by being too careful and indecisive; Eason deals with it by just ripping the shit out of the ball and hoping it works out. Both flawed, but neither is a shit case.

As to coordinators ... jury is out on Arroyo, but it's pretty clear he made a good hire in Avalos.

In the case of Marcus Arroyo vs Oregon, the jury has reached a verdict:

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His impotent offense is the weak link. I've seen nothing from Shough that indicates whether is he is good or a dud. But the fact that Herbert remains the starting QB isn't a good sign. Other teams have the @ballz to replace their starting QBs when they are underperforming.

The biggest issue is our lack of a running game. That has a lot to do with the backs not having the build to be successful in a pistol set. The pistol is most effective with strong north/south backs. Our current backs go down when the wind changes. They need to run the offense out of the spread until they get a LaGarret Blount bruiser in the backfield

Verdell is pretty physical a d Norh/ South but is injury prone.

Notice Oregon's running game goes wel early in almost any game until Versell inevitably get dinged. Then it disappears.

curiousbwhy Felix isn't part of the mix.

Me too, Felix has proved to be good so far, and he showed up for the Auburn game. Felix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dye. Felix must have got into some kind of trouble recently, didn't see him play at all against Cal.

Last time I saw him touch the ball was late in the 4th against Montana. He housed that one but it was Montana.

If Oregon lands Noah Sewell, I'd love to see him at half back.

 

[ntxduck]

Including @creepycoug

Secretly, even @MikeSeaver

El oh El

Bumpity Bump Bump BUMP!

Miami is buried forever underneath an NFL Stadium.

Oregon looks like ass despite the North being dreck.

Hope you are enjoying your screenshots!!!

Nice comeback.

#year6

I don't see even the doogliest here giving Pete more time.

The leveling up, super cool Clemson, ///, everything Matters bullshit never belonged to me.

I wanted another conference title and a new years 6 bull which after 6 seasons it's clear everything has to fall 100% perfectly for this staff to even be in the realm of upsetting an Iowa/Mich State type of team for that.

I give you shit more out of the Oregon takes. You (and you are certainly not alone on this) buried Cristobal before he even got started. The overrated recruiting chatter has quieted significantly; but the meathead poser tuff guy take still holds here.

He may as yet shit the bed this season. Time will tell. The O offense is almost as shitty as Washington's. That will cost them eventually, particularly on the road.

It's hard to judge Cristobal's skills or lack thereof when he continues to employ an asshat as OC. Cristobal is too chummy with his old friends and wants to give them jerbs, he needs to cut ties with these incompetent lackeys. Arroyo should have been fired at the end of last season. He hasn't found a competent QB to replace Herbert yet either.

Dude. By all accounts Shough (or however you spell it) is a strong successor. I get the frustrations with Herbert but you're a little over the top with it. He's not the most mentally strong guy I've seen play, but the guy can and does make all the throws. He's a little slow and tentative and times, but then again, he's looking at what Eason is looking at: midgets and a tight end. Herbert deals with that by being too careful and indecisive; Eason deals with it by just ripping the shit out of the ball and hoping it works out. Both flawed, but neither is a shit case.

As to coordinators ... jury is out on Arroyo, but it's pretty clear he made a good hire in Avalos.

In the case of Marcus Arroyo vs Oregon, the jury has reached a verdict:

View attachment 24070

His impotent offense is the weak link. I've seen nothing from Shough that indicates whether is he is good or a dud. But the fact that Herbert remains the starting QB isn't a good sign. Other teams have the @ballz to replace their starting QBs when they are underperforming.

The biggest issue is our lack of a running game. That has a lot to do with the backs not having the build to be successful in a pistol set. The pistol is most effective with strong north/south backs. Our current backs go down when the wind changes. They need to run the offense out of the spread until they get a LaGarret Blount bruiser in the backfield

Verdell is pretty physical a d Norh/ South but is injury prone.

Notice Oregon's running game goes wel early in almost any game until Versell inevitably get dinged. Then it disappears.

curiousbwhy Felix isn't part of the mix.

Me too, Felix has proved to be good so far, and he showed up for the Auburn game. Felix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dye. Felix must have got into some kind of trouble recently, didn't see him play at all against Cal.

Last time I saw him touch the ball was late in the 4th against Montana. He housed that one but it was Montana.

If Oregon lands Noah Sewell, I'd love to see him at half back.

Oregon will finally have a back who can run pistol in benson next year. Of course, Arroyo will be gone (hopefully) by then so we’ll be back to zone read

 

[haie]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

 

[greenblood]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

The UW offense has under-performed under multiple OCs. Arroyo wasn't even Cristobal's hire. Taggart hired Arroyo, which says a lot. If Cristobal hires a replacement (wait till he gets his guy in there hardy har har) and it still sputters, yeah, Cristobal owns it.

 

[ntxduck]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

The UW offense has under-performed under multiple OCs. Arroyo wasn't even Cristobal's hire. Taggart hired Arroyo, which says a lot. If Cristobal hires a replacement (wait till he gets his guy in there hardy har har) and it still sputters, yeah, Cristobal owns it.

This. Mario got rid of one inherited coordinator and made an A+ hire. Time to do the second this offseason

 

[oregonblitzkrieg]

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

 

[DJDuck]

uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.

Speaking of....

After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?

uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.

Speaking of....

After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?

My wife had two cancer surgeries for ovarian Cancer. Thank you for your concern.

Some of us old Woodshed denizens from the old Educk also have our own small board.

 

[oregonblitzkrieg]

I support DJDuck and his informative duck articles. This is a quook board. LEAVE if you don't like it.

 

[ntxduck]

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

 

[oregonblitzkrieg]

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

So he didn't want turnover or change from last year's coug game, from last years Arizona game? Pairing an FS OC with an FS QB = the offensive results we saw on the field last year, what we're seeing on the field this year. Arroyo is a high school level OC. Hebert is a dunce who likes to throw low percentage deep balls more than he likes throwing short, complete-able passes for first downs. The offense is a mess, and doesn't represent Oregon football well.

 

[ntxduck]

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

So he didn't want turnover or change from last year's coug game, from last years Arizona game? Pairing an FS OC with an FS QB = the offensive results we saw on the field last year, what we're seeing on the field this year. Arroyo is a high school level OC. Hebert is a dunce who likes to throw low percentage deep balls more than he likes throwing short, complete-able passes for first downs. The offense is a mess, and doesn't represent Oregon football well.

You’re preaching to the choir.

 

[DJDuck]

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

There was enough evidence last season to warrant Arroyo's firing. The problem is that he's Cristobal's close friend. Cristobal probably wanted to keep him on this year for that reason, to get his buddy a fat paycheck before he's fired.

They’re not close friends at all...no clue where you heard that. Cristobal almost canned him last off-season but didn’t want turnover going into Herbert’s last season on offense. Mario is probably realizing that was a mistake already. Arroyo is almost certainly gone after this season.

Do you have some evidence tjat they are not close? I heave heard they are from private Duck sources.

 

[DoogCourics]

uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.

Speaking of....

After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?

uh...no. Only DJDuck did, maybe.

Speaking of....

After spamming this bored non-stop for the last few months, he's been eerily quiet tonight. What gives?

My wife had two cancer surgeries for ovarian Cancer. Thank you for your concern.

Some of us old Woodshed denizens from the old Educk also have our own small board.

T’s & P’s to you and your wife. Legitimately.

I hope the surgeries work and she continues to get better.

 

[creepycoug]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

 

[oregonblitzkrieg]

@Haie in this thread:

 

[haie]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

tldr

 

[RaceBannon]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

He sure sounds like your boyfriend

Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case

 

[oregonblitzkrieg]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

He sure sounds like your boyfriend

Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case

Those tickets are already fully booked.

@haie

@StrongArmCobra

 

[ntxduck]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

He sure sounds like your boyfriend

Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case

Those tickets are already fully booked.

@haie

@StrongArmCobra

Haie also doesn’t post on the sabbath after a loss now apparently

 

[creepycoug]

Petersen's offense sucks.

But with Oregon it's Awwoyo! All Awwoyo! It's his offense. Not meatball mario! He just wants a TUFF team!!!!

So by what postulate do you know that all coaching dysfunction is the same everywhere. Does the context not vary from situation to situation?

Cristobal is a line coach. He doesn't have some big history as the offensive coordinator guy. You get that with a guy like, say, Spurrier. You get that on the defensive side with a guy like, say, Bob Stoops or Pete Carroll. Guys who have a well-earned track record doing that thing a particular way.

Pete gets the "his offense sucks" tag because it's assumed (I myself have no idea, or care) that he's really pulling the strings for the offense. Cristobal is not assumed to be doing the same, and that seems like a safe assumption.

But, I leave you with this question: why does it matter? Whether the HC does or does not tinker with their coordinators, they are responsible for everything at the end of the day. I can't believe you, of all people, are here whining that Mario doesn't get enough blame. Trust me: if the offense leads them to a 7-4 season, it will fall on Cristoball's desk just as sure as it would fall on Petersen's.

In all of the debates we've had, this is, by far, your weakest position. It shows you more as a Cristo-hater; and not as a reasoned observer who has anything useful to say about him one way or the other.

He's not my boyfriend, so please, critique away. But for Christ's sake bring something to the table.

He sure sounds like your boyfriend

Might want to book a refundable flight to Hawaii on the 20th just in case

So nothing to add. Got it.

Not my boyfriend. Just bring something. Anything. But "Oregon fans aren't mad enough at Cristo" just doesn't make it. It's stupid and pointless. HC owns everything where I come from.