Wouldn't it be something?

whlinder said:
OC to head coach is such a different skill set (CEO). Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a brilliant OC (or DC) to let them lead your org, and there are many successes out there like that, but none really get to the very top of the sport without changing and evolving. Lincoln Riley, Leach, Venables, Tedford, all excellent on one side of the ball, but make them lead a team and they're able to make that team good but never great. I would even toss Sark in here though maybe he's been HC for so long now that he's learned that part (lol j/k).
No idea if Grubb has that in him - he might, but hasn't had the CEO opportunity, and if we've learned anything it's that you don't try that for the first time at Washington. The Kirby Smarts and Bob Stoops of the world are rare.
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As basically a CEO myself, I agree with your position description.
 
whlinder said:
OC to head coach is such a different skill set (CEO). Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a brilliant OC (or DC) to let them lead your org, and there are many successes out there like that, but none really get to the very top of the sport without changing and evolving. Lincoln Riley, Leach, Venables, Tedford, all excellent on one side of the ball, but make them lead a team and they're able to make that team good but never great. I would even toss Sark in here though maybe he's been HC for so long now that he's learned that part (lol j/k).
No idea if Grubb has that in him - he might, but hasn't had the CEO opportunity, and if we've learned anything it's that you don't try that for the first time at Washington. The Kirby Smarts and Bob Stoops of the world are rare.
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This. The history is too littered with examples of amazing coordinators who couldn't cut it as head coach. In fact, it's easier to talk about the ones who made the transition than it is to inventory those who failed and flailed.
 
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DerekJohnson said:
CrispyEaterson said:
Was there any proof he could recruit? Great coach without any players doesn’t amount to much.
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I saw a video on Youtube where a Pats fan was breaking down film and marveling how Seattle seemed to know what defense NE was going to be in and then exploited it. So then I got to thinking "What if Grubb's a playcalling prodigy and we had a shot but missed it?" But again, we couldn't afford to take that kind of chance in that moment so I'm not implying we blew it per se.
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this feels like a vague throw out so you could later yell first and right!
 
MelloDawg said:
whlinder said:
OC to head coach is such a different skill set (CEO). Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a brilliant OC (or DC) to let them lead your org, and there are many successes out there like that, but none really get to the very top of the sport without changing and evolving. Lincoln Riley, Leach, Venables, Tedford, all excellent on one side of the ball, but make them lead a team and they're able to make that team good but never great. I would even toss Sark in here though maybe he's been HC for so long now that he's learned that part (lol j/k).
No idea if Grubb has that in him - he might, but hasn't had the CEO opportunity, and if we've learned anything it's that you don't try that for the first time at Washington. The Kirby Smarts and Bob Stoops of the world are rare.
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As basically a CEO myself, I agree with your position description.
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Master of your domain =/= CEO
 
EDIT: in response to yellas “trust the process” comment.

I’m pissed and it’s unacceptable.

But you’re right.

A lot of you had written this season off before it started and though I’d love to be wrong, that’s where I’m at now.

It’s just crazy, and disappointing, that one season removed from almost perfection, we’re here. It’s sad and speaks to the shit show that is college football. Oh fucking well.

‘25 going to be speshul.
 
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I dunno I'm not seeing some "Sark" or "Ty" type of a thing. The staff is probably closer to Petersen in everything that they do.
 
dirtysouwfdawg said:
DerekJohnson said:
CrispyEaterson said:
Was there any proof he could recruit? Great coach without any players doesn’t amount to much.
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I saw a video on Youtube where a Pats fan was breaking down film and marveling how Seattle seemed to know what defense NE was going to be in and then exploited it. So then I got to thinking "What if Grubb's a playcalling prodigy and we had a shot but missed it?" But again, we couldn't afford to take that kind of chance in that moment so I'm not implying we blew it per se.
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this feels like a vague throw out so you could later yell first and right!
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You're damn skippy!
 
Day at Ohio State is not a good example of a coordinator doing well. At The Ohio State, a blind man could be a good coach with their recruiting. Lanning not sure - he fell into a program that recruits - again could a blind man do well there? The Chipster is a good example at Oregon but not in the pros and UCLA. What happened to him?
UW is an example of failed coordinators being promoted. But then bringing in head coaches hasn't worked really well. James being the exception. Owens was OK for a bit but fell flat. The guy at Clemson did well, Georgia proved it can work.
 
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