With one more game in the books

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With one more game in the books, it's time to doog it up a little for promising underclassmen:
QB: True frosh Demond Williams (better fit for the offense Fisch / Carroll like to run, nervous if he goes down for any time next year)
RB: True frosh Adam Muhammad (looks like he has a bullish blend of power and athleticism)
TE: True frosh Decker DeGraff (hard not to be high on him)
WR: RS-Soph Denzel Boston (he is good)
WR: RS-Frosh Keith Reynolds (big kick return and nice speed on the TD run)
WR: RS-Frosh Rashid Williams (wouldn't surprise me if he was the #2 WR next year, especially if they don't portal in a WR)
LT: RS-Frosh Kahlee Tafai (future starter at OT)
C/G: True soph Landen Hatchett (solid as a starter, should take the next step in 2025)
RT: RS-Soph Drew Azzopardi (I'm not as down on him as others, he has bounced back some since the Iowa game)
DE: RS-Soph Isiah Ward (best pass-rusher on a team needing more pass rushers)
DE: True Soph Jacob Lane (proving to be a decent situational pass-rusher, will get more reps next season)
DE: RS-Soph Lance Holtzclaw (IIRC, he has a couple of crucial sacks / pressures and would be nice if he was able to add 10-15 pounds in the off-season)
DT: RS-Frosh Elinneus Davis (I pitch tent for him the most)
LB: True Frosh Khmori House (2nd most tent pitching)
DB: RS-Frosh Jordan Shaw (shaky to begin the season, has come on lately)
 
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
1to392831weretaken said:
We need a poll for how many and which of these guysms will transfer out.
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The players seem to like Fisch. I don't think many do. Maybe some people who lose starting roles
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That's irrelevant to modern "college" football. Players like money and draft status. There's fewer than a couple players on that list that won't leave if Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, etc. offer a fat stack of cash. A player that's guaranteed to stay is a player that doesn't have a high market value anyway.
 
Washington pays starters. Boston will stay.

Wow I'm fully dooging thats alot of talent
 
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
 
Boston will need at least 3 years of stats to appease NFL teams, otherwise he could become a day 3 pick if he leaves too early. Teams are already learning to clog his WR routes, so he doesn't look as dominating as he did 5-8 games ago. I see him staying for 3-4 years of play-time.
 
1to392831weretaken said:
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
1to392831weretaken said:
We need a poll for how many and which of these guysms will transfer out.
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The players seem to like Fisch. I don't think many do. Maybe some people who lose starting roles
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That's irrelevant to modern "college" football. Players like money and draft status. There's fewer than a couple players on that list that won't leave if Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, etc. offer a fat stack of cash. A player that's guaranteed to stay is a player that doesn't have a high market value anyway.
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There hasn't been any kind of trend at UW indicating portal defections are an issue. Players portaled when Deboer left, but everyone else that mattered has stayed, even through the Lake-Deboer transition.
 
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priapism said:
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
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I don't see how you can compare UW to the ducks - the ducks have ESPN hype year round, we were in the CFP championship and can't keep our coach and 80% of our starters- no hype at all. Oregon recruits 10X better than us and stockpiles 4/5 stars while playing 75% transfers. They have 2 5 star QBs on their roster if not more after the next signing day. They can pay their coach and assistants exorbitant bucks to stay.
We are no where close to them. Although we have beat them 3 games in a row.
 
LebamDawg said:
priapism said:
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
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I don't see how you can compare UW to the ducks - the ducks have ESPN hype year round, we were in the CFP championship and can't keep our coach and 80% of our starters- no hype at all. Oregon recruits 10X better than us and stockpiles 4/5 stars while playing 75% transfers. They have 2 5 star QBs on their roster if not more after the next signing day. They can pay their coach and assistants exorbitant bucks to stay.
We are no where close to them. Although we have beat them 3 games in a row.
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It will probably take at least $750,000 to keep Coleman and $500,000 to keep Boston but I don't see Boston going until the 5th or 6th round if he goes. If I were him, I'd stay and work on my craft while getting stronger.
Regarding UW vs. Oregon and USC / UCLA, UW has never really had an absolute advantage in terms of location (Southern Cal) or dollars (Phil Knight) but it has a good combination of things (good location, great stadium, very good school, decent money) to draw recruits. Where UW has had the worst time is turnover over the past 5 years at the HC position (self-inflicted Jimmy Lake and two events out of UW's control in Petersen retiring and DeBoer getting poached by Alabama at the absolute worst possible time). If UW can get good stretch from Fisch before heads to the NFL (4 to 5 years), that would go a long way towards stability.
 
LebamDawg said:
priapism said:
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
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I don't see how you can compare UW to the ducks - the ducks have ESPN hype year round, we were in the CFP championship and can't keep our coach and 80% of our starters- no hype at all. Oregon recruits 10X better than us and stockpiles 4/5 stars while playing 75% transfers. They have 2 5 star QBs on their roster if not more after the next signing day. They can pay their coach and assistants exorbitant bucks to stay.
We are no where close to them. Although we have beat them 3 games in a row.
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Phil knight won't be around much longer, then oregon recruiting will wither on the vine. Oregon will likely regress to an Iowa Hawkeye level once Phil is gone and the quality recruits go elsewhere - forced to become 1 dimensional like Iowa. Oregon loses a # of their 4-5*s every year.
Oregon won't have the NIL money LA or Seattle has when Phil is gone. Then UW starts taking their NW recruits away from them.
Look how Nebraska's recruiting has evolved...almost all 3*s now. That is Oregon in 10-15 years.
 
priapism said:
LebamDawg said:
priapism said:
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
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I don't see how you can compare UW to the ducks - the ducks have ESPN hype year round, we were in the CFP championship and can't keep our coach and 80% of our starters- no hype at all. Oregon recruits 10X better than us and stockpiles 4/5 stars while playing 75% transfers. They have 2 5 star QBs on their roster if not more after the next signing day. They can pay their coach and assistants exorbitant bucks to stay.
We are no where close to them. Although we have beat them 3 games in a row.
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Phil knight won't be around much longer, then oregon recruiting will wither on the vine. Oregon will likely regress to an Iowa Hawkeye level once Phil is gone and the quality recruits go elsewhere - forced to become 1 dimensional like Iowa. Oregon loses a # of their 4-5*s every year.
Oregon won't have the NIL money LA or Seattle has when Phil is gone. Then UW starts taking their NW recruits away from them.
Look how Nebraska's recruiting has evolved...almost all 3*s now. That is Oregon in 10-15 years.
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Uncle Phil is leaving behind a one billion dollar endowment for the Ducks. His money isn't going to the grave with him.
 
BleachedAnusDawg said:
priapism said:
LebamDawg said:
priapism said:
UW and Oregon are a mixture of finesse and power - can adapt their games to their opponents.
USC and UCLA are pure finesse - can't adapt their games too well to opponents.

UW and Oregon build and fill their teams out better and will beat the upper tier B1G teams with more regularity than the LA schools.

UW should continue to focus on the very high quality 3* guys, because it's harder for those guys to portal out to better teams since they don't have the 4-5* eye candy attached to them. UW should also take 10-12 guys a year from the NW with the new 105 scholarship limits, since they will be less likely to get home-sick.

Let the other Pac 4 teams have the portal drama with their 4-5* mercenaries.
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I don't see how you can compare UW to the ducks - the ducks have ESPN hype year round, we were in the CFP championship and can't keep our coach and 80% of our starters- no hype at all. Oregon recruits 10X better than us and stockpiles 4/5 stars while playing 75% transfers. They have 2 5 star QBs on their roster if not more after the next signing day. They can pay their coach and assistants exorbitant bucks to stay.
We are no where close to them. Although we have beat them 3 games in a row.
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Phil knight won't be around much longer, then oregon recruiting will wither on the vine. Oregon will likely regress to an Iowa Hawkeye level once Phil is gone and the quality recruits go elsewhere - forced to become 1 dimensional like Iowa. Oregon loses a # of their 4-5*s every year.
Oregon won't have the NIL money LA or Seattle has when Phil is gone. Then UW starts taking their NW recruits away from them.
Look how Nebraska's recruiting has evolved...almost all 3*s now. That is Oregon in 10-15 years.
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Uncle Phil is leaving behind a one billion dollar endowment for the Ducks. His money isn't going to the grave with him.
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You can scream this and they won't hear you. The doog brain is an amazing? thing.
 
Yeah, Oregon has built a machine at this point. It's not like Alabama has a single billionaire donor. They just built a machine, and now it's self-propelled by hype. Uncle Phil got the ball rolling, but it's ESPN, Nike, etc. that are carrying the water now.
 
The poaching of major conference standouts by the handful of teams that have endless money without coaching changes hasn't happened the way it seems like it was going to yet. I guess that could change more every year though. You see some of it but not as much as you might think.
UW at least seemed like they paid for proven players already on the team in 2023. So they'll do it again?
 
1to392831weretaken said:
Yeah, Oregon has built a machine at this point. It's not like Alabama has a single billionaire donor. They just built a machine, and now it's self-propelled by hype. Uncle Phil got the ball rolling, but it's ESPN, Nike, etc. that are carrying the water now.
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Bama is just a different animal. Has been since the 1926 RB, in the infamous, "The Game That Changed The South," when George Wilson was injured and, consequently, Bama won by 1. Quit living in the past! FML. Saban's success @ Bama was primarily due to his recruiting acumen. Jimmys and Joes. He said as much himself.
Also, Phil Knight probably never would've gotten involved to the extent he has w/out Bill Moos. People forget that.
 
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