Why Washington Husky LB Jacob Manu won’t play against No. 7 Oregon

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Washington has a much harder time beating UCLA in the Rose Bowl than they do beating Oregon.

UCLA is broken beyond repair. That was as incompetent an effort by a major D1 name program I've seen in quite some time, and that's saying a lot.
Probably time to put away the "UW can't beat UCLA" routine. That was not a hard game at all.

Check the facts and try again

 

[creepycoug]

Washington has a much harder time beating UCLA in the Rose Bowl than they do beating Oregon.

UCLA is broken beyond repair. That was as incompetent an effort by a major D1 name program I've seen in quite some time, and that's saying a lot.
Probably time to put away the "UW can't beat UCLA" routine. That was not a hard game at all.

Check the facts and try again

what facts? that UW has a confounding history of losing games to UCLA? I was student at UW in the 80s and extending into the 90s. I didn't just land here. I know all that.
but beating that UCLA team and beating this Oregon team have absolutely nothing to do with each other. UW no longer has a UCLA problem because UCLA isn't UCLA anymore at all.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Washington has a much harder time beating UCLA in the Rose Bowl than they do beating Oregon.

UCLA is broken beyond repair. That was as incompetent an effort by a major D1 name program I've seen in quite some time, and that's saying a lot.
Probably time to put away the "UW can't beat UCLA" routine. That was not a hard game at all.

Check the facts and try again

what facts? that UW has a confounding history of losing games to UCLA? I was student at UW in the 80s and extending into the 90s. I didn't just land here. I know all that.
but beating that UCLA team and beating this Oregon team have absolutely nothing to do with each other. UW no longer has a UCLA problem because UCLA isn't UCLA anymore at all.

UCLA is the same shitty dogshit team we can't beat in LA
HTH

 

[RoadDawg55]

The schools protecting anyone’s redshirt these days is kind of stupid.

yep. use 'em while you got 'em. freshman aren't really freshman anymore anyway. fucking kids show up ready to play these days. gone are the day of the senior laden that scares everyone because experience. fucking teams that are loaded these days are starting freshman. if they're good they're good so play 'em because you're not getting four years anymore.

Freshman play, but there is no program killing it and starting a bunch of freshman. Go look at Ohio State’s defense and you will see most of them played a little bit as a freshman, were rotating in as sophomores, and start their junior year. They have other guys that have been rotation guys and are finally getting a lot of playing time their senior year.

College football isn’t much different that it has always been. Guys that are 3-4 years older that have experience are typically better than 18 year old freshmen.

Not a bunch but there are 10-win teams that have freshman playing full-time starting roles. They're everywhere and too numerous to cite and that has been the trend for a few years now. It used to be a big deal when a true freshman started and starred. It's not really a big deal now.
I'm not saying 8 of 11 on a starting side are freshman. But it's not that uncommon for a freshman to be the best option at a given position and coaches are playing them now and not saving them for some future effort. And if they're good you're not going to get 4 years of them anymore. In that respect and others, I disagree with your comment that cfb isn't much different than it's always been. I think it's changed quite dramatically.

UW in 2000 had true freshmen playing big roles. That’s 25 years ago. Playing freshmen is not a new thing. It was rare 30-40 years ago. That’s a long time ago. USC under Carroll played them every year. Oregon and everyone else too. Teams play their best players. It does happen.

A lot of stuff changes in college football, but the game is the same. Teams that are physical, block and tackle well, and get good QB play win games.

Looking at some depth charts online, Ohio State has one starter that’s a freshman and he rotates at RB. Indiana has none. Georgia has one. Texas A&M has one RS-Fr. Ole Miss zero, Alabama zero. Oregon has two. The strong programs aren’t starting freshman unless they are really good. You got one in Miami with Toney. It does happen, but it’s not common.

 

[RaceBannon]

It’s not the end of the world, but I’m sure he made some decent money up here. We probably paid Jonah and Davis $1m each or something. Would have easily rather had another good lineman or two or an edge than those three. We cry poor and then waste money on luxury items. Some of the pickups have been good and probably cheap, but there’s lots to question. Will need to spend money on a left tackle, corner, a big bodied fast wide receiver, tight end, definitely an edge and probably a DT this offseason. This was the year to make a move.

But I needed to upgrade my iPhone. The rent can wait

 

[Bob_C]

It’s not the end of the world, but I’m sure he made some decent money up here. We probably paid Jonah and Davis $1m each or something. Would have easily rather had another good lineman or two or an edge than those three. We cry poor and then waste money on luxury items. Some of the pickups have been good and probably cheap, but there’s lots to question. Will need to spend money on a left tackle, corner, a big bodied fast wide receiver, tight end, definitely an edge and probably a DT this offseason. This was the year to make a move.

Davis is really good when he plays. I agree that Coleman‘s money would have been better spent elsewhere, but it’s not the end of the world.

Agreed Davis is good. You could have gotten a good guard for his money.

 

[creepycoug]

@RoadDawg55 Didn't say it didn't happen. Just that it's become more common. I recall during that SC run that people made note of how many freshman Carrol was using, guys like Jarrett, Williams, Barkley, White, etc. Special teams and special recruits.
I am tempted to go with you while still in the honeymoon period of your return, but AI don't lie:

Aren't there like 4 or 5 true freshman starting at P4 programs right now?
Even if you're right, argue with Skynet at your own peril, Roadie.

 

[Doogles]

My only problem with the Manu situation isn't field related.

It just emphasizes the disconnect of the modern game/player vs the traditions/rivalries that made college football special.
If you asked any UW player pre NIL/Portal if they could only play in one game all season 90% would say Oregon and 10% would say Coug.
The pride attached to schools is at an all-time low. It's just a label attached to a paycheck, like the NFL, and that sucks.
Whatever, just win baby, it is what it is.

 

[TheHB]

fuck him