When the left turns on it's own

DucksFC said:
@Swaye (fuck Vanilla)
Second-most still doesn't mean a ton when there's a huge gap between her and Bernie. He's on a different spectrum. And again, there are a lot of points on his platform that go too far for me. But I respect the guy because he doesn't read off of a script. You all admire Trump for the same reason. And what he said about the Dems themselves is spot on. You can point to him supporting them when he lost his bid and call him a pussy, but if you understand politics at all, you know why he did: because for him, it's better than the alternative. Same reasons all your favorite Trump cronies like DeSantis and especially Graham and Vance ripped the shit out of him, but then fell in line. They know what the game is.
Still waiting for any proof that Kamala was planning on implementing anything close to communism if she had gotten elected. This bored is more hung up on using it as a catchphrase than actually understanding what that would require and how much it would be rejected at first attempt. Had she gotten elected it wouldn't have been communism, it would've been 4 more years of Biden. That's a direct quote. I knew when she said that that she would lose because people didn't want that.
The vast majority don't want communism either, it's just easy to focus on the fringe that does because they kick and scream, again, without knowing what that actually entails, just like a ton of you dweebs here do. The people just want a government that gives a shit and addresses basic needs. My biggest causes are fixing the absolute shit cost of living (which neither side has done anything about), lowering cost of college and improving infrastructure/technocracy. Overhauling and streamlining the immigration process to make the legal process more accessible and better-funded is another. None of those are extreme. If some of you jumped off of the tinfoil shit for once, stopped vomiting out every conspiracy you hear from Joe Blow Me and landed back in reality, you'd see that.
And just FYI, Trump isn't going to fix any of that shit either. You'll find out soon enough, or you'll just more likely make excuses for him, and claim next year will be special and he just needs more tim to get his guys in there.
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We can agree on fixing the shit cost of living for sure.
I always thought Bernie was bananas policy wise, but like you respected the fact that he has deeply held beliefs and doesn't sugar coat it.
I never thought Kamala, in 4 years, would turn us into a commie paradise. I just wanted to illustrate that factually she did have a very hard left voting record. I recognize that in the general she had abandoned a few of her hard left positions to be palatable to the center. But as a CA Senator, she was as left as it gets.
I won't make excuses for Trump. I call balls and strikes. I hope with unified government Trump will deliver on several campaign promises like no tax on SS, deporting illegals and the like. If he can't get a GOP Congress to cooperate I will call that out, just like the border wall fiasco with Paul Ryan (loser) in 2016.
 
Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
 
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Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
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No, sir. You've been sold a bill of goods. Your guy and tri-lateral power gave a weak token tax nod in 2017 to the lower/middle class that has already expired, lumped it with a massive continuing tax favor for the wealthy, added more to the debt than anyone could imagine a president doing, let alone a conservative, even before COVID, that it's hard to imagine this is real life.
Joe Biden didn't just lead a boring, uneventful, and impressive recovery from a global mess, the best of anyone, despite being left an insurrection attempt, a massive debt, and a miraculously inept executive apparatus from a bitch boy predecessor who left in a disgrace, completely shattered and screaming foul, disowned by his party in the middle of a pandemic, I'm sure. That didn't happen.
A New York City trust fund baby who puts his name on skyscrapers and goes bankrupt, a con man with an Al Capone /Abraham Lincoln kink, the dude who fucks off every client he can, cheats on every wife he can, and gets butthurt about the smallest slight. The man who couldn't pass a 5th grade history exam, the Bankruptcy Boy, Jeffery Epstein's bff, with 39/40 of his former fucking cabinet members saying he's a dangerous threat to America, scum of the earth, with many more former employees saying he's the stupidest irrational motherfucker that's ever crossed their path. That was 4+ years ago. Just look at the guy now.
Yet America was solid as stone with Joe, uneventful and growing economically like gangbusters, massive investment in domestic manufacturing , largely in red communities, a domestic agenda and investment that we haven't really seen from Democrats in ages. Joe was anti-globalist as they come.
But that arc wasn't good enough. Nobody cares about actual economic health numbers or anything of the sort. The price of eggs was still too high. Kamala couldn't handle it so maybe Donald Trump can. Also Kamala supports men in women's bathrooms, in theory.
And that's how you lose in a nation of moronshttps://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
 
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CallMeBigErn said:
Bendintheriver said:
Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
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No, sir. You've been sold a bill of goods. Your guy and tri-lateral power gave a weak token tax nod in 2017 to the lower/middle class that has already expired, lumped it with a massive continuing tax favor for the wealthy, added more to the debt than anyone could imagine a president doing, let alone a conservative, even before COVID, that it's hard to imagine this is real life.
Joe Biden didn't just lead a boring, uneventful, and impressive recovery from a global mess, the best of anyone, despite being left an insurrection attempt, a massive debt, and a miraculously inept executive apparatus from a bitch boy predecessor who left in a disgrace, completely shattered and screaming foul, disowned by his party in the middle of a pandemic, I'm sure. That didn't happen.
A New York City trust fund baby who puts his name on skyscrapers and goes bankrupt, a con man with an Al Capone /Abraham Lincoln kink, the dude who fucks off every client he can, cheats on every wife he can, and gets butthurt about the smallest slight. The man who couldn't pass a 5th grade history exam, the Bankruptcy Boy, Jeffery Epstein's bff, with 39/40 of his former fucking cabinet members saying he's a dangerous threat to America, scum of the earth, with many more former employees saying he's the stupidest irrational motherfucker that's ever crossed their path. That was 4+ years ago. Just look at the guy now.
Yet America was solid as stone with Joe, uneventful and growing economically like gangbusters, massive investment in domestic manufacturing , largely in red communities, a domestic agenda and investment that we haven't really seen from Democrats in ages. Joe was anti-globalist as they come.
But that arc wasn't good enough. Nobody cares about actual economic health numbers or anything of the sort. The price of eggs was still too high. Kamala couldn't handle it so maybe Donald Trump can. Also Kamala supports men in women's bathrooms, in theory.
And that's how you lose in a nation of moronshttps://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
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I like you as part of the resistance.
 
Swaye said:
CallMeBigErn said:
Bendintheriver said:
Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
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No, sir. You've been sold a bill of goods. Your guy and tri-lateral power gave a weak token tax nod in 2017 to the lower/middle class that has already expired, lumped it with a massive continuing tax favor for the wealthy, added more to the debt than anyone could imagine a president doing, let alone a conservative, even before COVID, that it's hard to imagine this is real life.
Joe Biden didn't just lead a boring, uneventful, and impressive recovery from a global mess, the best of anyone, despite being left an insurrection attempt, a massive debt, and a miraculously inept executive apparatus from a bitch boy predecessor who left in a disgrace, completely shattered and screaming foul, disowned by his party in the middle of a pandemic, I'm sure. That didn't happen.
A New York City trust fund baby who puts his name on skyscrapers and goes bankrupt, a con man with an Al Capone /Abraham Lincoln kink, the dude who fucks off every client he can, cheats on every wife he can, and gets butthurt about the smallest slight. The man who couldn't pass a 5th grade history exam, the Bankruptcy Boy, Jeffery Epstein's bff, with 39/40 of his former fucking cabinet members saying he's a dangerous threat to America, scum of the earth, with many more former employees saying he's the stupidest irrational motherfucker that's ever crossed their path. That was 4+ years ago. Just look at the guy now.
Yet America was solid as stone with Joe, uneventful and growing economically like gangbusters, massive investment in domestic manufacturing , largely in red communities, a domestic agenda and investment that we haven't really seen from Democrats in ages. Joe was anti-globalist as they come.
But that arc wasn't good enough. Nobody cares about actual economic health numbers or anything of the sort. The price of eggs was still too high. Kamala couldn't handle it so maybe Donald Trump can. Also Kamala supports men in women's bathrooms, in theory.
And that's how you lose in a nation of moronshttps://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
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I like you as part of the resistance.
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You won't be part of my resistance in 2026. You'll be all in.
 
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CallMeBigErn said:
Swaye said:
CallMeBigErn said:
Bendintheriver said:
Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
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No, sir. You've been sold a bill of goods. Your guy and tri-lateral power gave a weak token tax nod in 2017 to the lower/middle class that has already expired, lumped it with a massive continuing tax favor for the wealthy, added more to the debt than anyone could imagine a president doing, let alone a conservative, even before COVID, that it's hard to imagine this is real life.
Joe Biden didn't just lead a boring, uneventful, and impressive recovery from a global mess, the best of anyone, despite being left an insurrection attempt, a massive debt, and a miraculously inept executive apparatus from a bitch boy predecessor who left in a disgrace, completely shattered and screaming foul, disowned by his party in the middle of a pandemic, I'm sure. That didn't happen.
A New York City trust fund baby who puts his name on skyscrapers and goes bankrupt, a con man with an Al Capone /Abraham Lincoln kink, the dude who fucks off every client he can, cheats on every wife he can, and gets butthurt about the smallest slight. The man who couldn't pass a 5th grade history exam, the Bankruptcy Boy, Jeffery Epstein's bff, with 39/40 of his former fucking cabinet members saying he's a dangerous threat to America, scum of the earth, with many more former employees saying he's the stupidest irrational motherfucker that's ever crossed their path. That was 4+ years ago. Just look at the guy now.
Yet America was solid as stone with Joe, uneventful and growing economically like gangbusters, massive investment in domestic manufacturing , largely in red communities, a domestic agenda and investment that we haven't really seen from Democrats in ages. Joe was anti-globalist as they come.
But that arc wasn't good enough. Nobody cares about actual economic health numbers or anything of the sort. The price of eggs was still too high. Kamala couldn't handle it so maybe Donald Trump can. Also Kamala supports men in women's bathrooms, in theory.
And that's how you lose in a nation of moronshttps://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
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I like you as part of the resistance.
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You won't be part of my resistance in 2026.
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Like in every mid-term Dems have a great chance of taking back power. Let's see how they message the next two years. But yes, we will never be on the same team. That's ok, I'll still have a beer with you.
 
@Swaye
I have already started to simmer on this idea. If Lauren Boebert can win a seat, anyone can. This is my time. Pissed off donors are gonna be itchin' to give $ to some 38 year old young blood with fresh ideas. Won't even have to schmooze too hard, I reckon.
 
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You've been sold a bill of goods and you are morons
Ern is dusting off the mid term messaging
Do it
 
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huskyhooligan said:
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When's the last time anybody got actual funding to make a movie like this? Super Troopers 2?
Some big name actor was saying that you can't even get green lit to make rated R comedies like this anymore.
 
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Swaye said:
CallMeBigErn said:
Bendintheriver said:
Its puzzling how ignorant the left is when it comes to politics, the middle class and life in general. The elites voted for Headboard in this election. Nothing biden or Headboard did for the past 4 years helped anyone in the middle class. They killed the middle class. Yet here we have ern trying to say Trump who gave tax cuts, kept inflation to a minimum, lowered the cost of fuel, etc., is the problem. He and his ilk are so ignorant and dishonest.
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No, sir. You've been sold a bill of goods. Your guy and tri-lateral power gave a weak token tax nod in 2017 to the lower/middle class that has already expired, lumped it with a massive continuing tax favor for the wealthy, added more to the debt than anyone could imagine a president doing, let alone a conservative, even before COVID, that it's hard to imagine this is real life.
Joe Biden didn't just lead a boring, uneventful, and impressive recovery from a global mess, the best of anyone, despite being left an insurrection attempt, a massive debt, and a miraculously inept executive apparatus from a bitch boy predecessor who left in a disgrace, completely shattered and screaming foul, disowned by his party in the middle of a pandemic, I'm sure. That didn't happen.
A New York City trust fund baby who puts his name on skyscrapers and goes bankrupt, a con man with an Al Capone /Abraham Lincoln kink, the dude who fucks off every client he can, cheats on every wife he can, and gets butthurt about the smallest slight. The man who couldn't pass a 5th grade history exam, the Bankruptcy Boy, Jeffery Epstein's bff, with 39/40 of his former fucking cabinet members saying he's a dangerous threat to America, scum of the earth, with many more former employees saying he's the stupidest irrational motherfucker that's ever crossed their path. That was 4+ years ago. Just look at the guy now.
Yet America was solid as stone with Joe, uneventful and growing economically like gangbusters, massive investment in domestic manufacturing , largely in red communities, a domestic agenda and investment that we haven't really seen from Democrats in ages. Joe was anti-globalist as they come.
But that arc wasn't good enough. Nobody cares about actual economic health numbers or anything of the sort. The price of eggs was still too high. Kamala couldn't handle it so maybe Donald Trump can. Also Kamala supports men in women's bathrooms, in theory.
And that's how you lose in a nation of moronshttps://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
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I like you as part of the resistance.
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Yeah, its kind of comforting to know that the ern's of the world are out there ignoring history and making things up as they go along. It makes for easy pickings come for the next election.
 
DucksFC said:
WestlinnDuck said:
DucksFC said:
RaceBannon said:
Cenk understands why Harris lost better than most
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He's 100% right. Same with Bernie, what he said was spot on. Dems ignored the working class and played identity politics over economy and infrastructure, which moderate voters were far more concerned over. They alienated Latinos which was evident in the vote, and promised nothing but the status quo which no one wanted. I saw this coming for a while. I knew what the result was going to be. Dems should've tossed Biden's corpse out 2 years ago and ran a primary. My guy was Shapiro, always was. He got the left and right in Pennsylvania to get along. With a proper primary and 2 years to work with, he would've given Trump a far better fight.
This article pretty much sums up what I believe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/1gl545l/as_a_former_democrat_who_split_his_ticket_heres/?share_id=yZKaKlgCat0D0g90mwzAF&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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Far left Bernie would have won the 2016 primary except for the dem steal. Hardly a proper primary. Shapiro is a Jew, a dem non-starter in 2024. Let's pretend he is a moderate. A moderate isn't winning a dem primary.
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Bernie was popular in 2016 because he's fucking genuine. Lot of folks are tired of politicians who read off of a script. Bernie has held the same opinions for 60 years and he always speaks from the heart.
I'm not as far left as he is, but he actually gives a shit about people, wants to do the right thing for the working class, or whatever his definition of the right thing is. Better than what most politicians can offer, and also why Hillary and her crew couldn't stand him. Fucking him over is what started the 8 year slide to rock bottom.
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I think he's nuttier than a fruitcake, but his sincerity is what appealed to guys like Joe Rogan
 
DerekJohnson said:
georgiaduck said:
Time to get the popcorn

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854518136969543699
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I find it fascinating that Clooney is under fire, and yet the true architects Pelosi and Obama seem to be largely being given a pass
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Pelosi may go down as one of the shrewdest and most influential house members of all time. She's a firecracker, but this needs to be the end of the rope. Joe got pushed out and his replacement got trounced by Donald Trump, of all people. This is rock bottom, regardless of how it happened. Bye. Go away, Nancy.
Barack can still have a part in my New No Nonsense Party. It's a coalition. I'm just looking for good communicators right now and he's good at that. I think he'd be a solid press secretary for my campaign, if he were to accept.
 
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CallMeBigErn said:
DerekJohnson said:
georgiaduck said:
Time to get the popcorn

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854518136969543699
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I find it fascinating that Clooney is under fire, and yet the true architects Pelosi and Obama seem to be largely being given a pass
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Pelosi may go down as one of the shrewdest and most influential house members of all time. She's a firecracker, but this needs to be the end of the rope. Joe got pushed out and his replacement got trounced by Donald Trump, of all people. This is rock bottom, regardless of how it happened. Bye. Go away, Nancy.
Barack can still have a part in my New No Nonsense Party. It's a coalition. I'm just looking for good communicators right now and he's good at that. I think he'd be a solid press secretary for my campaign, if he were to accept.
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Obama lead the push put of Joe. They just used Nancy as the final straw..... it failed miserably
 
Goduckies said:
CallMeBigErn said:
DerekJohnson said:
georgiaduck said:
Time to get the popcorn

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854518136969543699
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I find it fascinating that Clooney is under fire, and yet the true architects Pelosi and Obama seem to be largely being given a pass
Click to expand...
Pelosi may go down as one of the shrewdest and most influential house members of all time. She's a firecracker, but this needs to be the end of the rope. Joe got pushed out and his replacement got trounced by Donald Trump, of all people. This is rock bottom, regardless of how it happened. Bye. Go away, Nancy.
Barack can still have a part in my New No Nonsense Party. It's a coalition. I'm just looking for good communicators right now and he's good at that. I think he'd be a solid press secretary for my campaign, if he were to accept.
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Obama lead the push put of Joe. They just used Nancy as the final straw..... it failed miserably
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Sounds like MAGAporn
 
CallMeBigErn said:
DerekJohnson said:
georgiaduck said:
Time to get the popcorn

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854518136969543699
Click to expand...
I find it fascinating that Clooney is under fire, and yet the true architects Pelosi and Obama seem to be largely being given a pass
Click to expand...
Pelosi may go down as one of the shrewdest and most influential house members of all time. She's a firecracker, but this needs to be the end of the rope. Joe got pushed out and his replacement got trounced by Donald Trump, of all people. This is rock bottom, regardless of how it happened. Bye. Go away, Nancy.
Barack can still have a part in my New No Nonsense Party. It's a coalition. I'm just looking for good communicators right now and he's good at that. I think he'd be a solid press secretary for my campaign, if he were to accept.
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Pelosi is one of the architects of the biggest abuse of power and corruption this nation has ever seen. She was perfectly fine lying over and over about a fake dossier in an effort to take away the vote of 71 million people. She will go down as one of the most corrupt Americans in history. Part of the biggest "threat to democracy" ever. The disrespect she showed half of this country can't be forgotten. The sooner she is dead the better. That kind of evil doesn't deserve free air.
 
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