What the furthest single event run you've done in your life?

What the furthest single event run you've done in your life?

  • 1 or 2 miles

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • 5K (3.1 miles)

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • 10K (6.2 miles) - Olympic Distance Triathlon

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • 13.1 Mile (Half Marathon)

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • 26.6 Miles (Full Marathon)

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • More than 26.2 Miles (Ultra Marathon type stuff)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
whlinder said:
pawz said:
whlinder said:
I hated that loop. I was so slow back then.

I got acceptable at running after I changed my form from heel strike to mid-foot strike. Got rid of knee pain when running and made me so much faster. I highly recommend running that way which is effectively the “barefoot” technique. It takes a while to build those muscles up but is totally worth it.
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Exactly this. That mid-foot strike is fundamental to what i was trying to articulate.

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Yup, I got what you are saying. It killed my calves and other muscles which hadn't been used properly while making the transition but sooooo worth it. Now it is painful for me to watch heel strikers run. (This is another row/run combo where running you push off mid-foot/ball of the foot to spring forward and rowing is drive through your heels so it works everything differently)
They way I describe it is you should run as quiet as possible. If you're making noise you're doing it wrong. My test on that is to see which pedestrians I can surprise by running past them where they don't hear me approaching.
Alternatively, imagine being barefoot and having to run on concrete. How would you do it? Not with your heel but lightly on your toes.
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Running as quiet as possible is a great way to think about it.

The other way I think about it analogously is with the number of gear-teeth on a wheel. The fewer teeth, the more clunky the rotation. Inversely, the more teeth the smoother the rotation. Thus the idea for a quicker, compact stride. To do this requires a weight-forward mid-foot strike.

This thumbnail illustrates the idea in the most basic way:

 
whlinder said:
YellowSnow said:
whlinder said:
I hated that loop. I was so slow back then.

I got acceptable at running after I changed my form from heel strike to mid-foot strike. Got rid of knee pain when running and made me so much faster. I highly recommend running that way which is effectively the “barefoot” technique. It takes a while to build those muscles up but is totally worth it.
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yeah I’m sure there’s a technique to it that helps. Call me weird but I’d rather C2 than run. Way more productive if you have 30 mins.
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I'm in a pretty good place where ~60-70% of intense cardio comes from the C2 and 30-40% is from running. I like to mix the two for a few reasons
-Running is more enjoyable when the weather is nice than the rowing machine; it's much tougher to go workout on an erg when it is 70 and sunny
-I think challenging your body with both bilateral and cross-lateral movements (I hope those are the right words) is good for your brain, balance, coordination and just working muscles differently. I'm not going to swim a butterfly or breast stroke with any kind of skill or intensity so erging it is
-Rowing is still a power activity and will naturally add bulk, so need the distance running to offset. I don't need too much bulk. I think the lightest I ever was since like age 15 was when I did the 1/2 marathon training since doing a bunch of that type of running your body naturally sheds unnecessary weight
-Being able to physically move as you age is important. No one rows on a tour of a city (except maybe Amsterdam?) or to navigate an airport, so keeping the ability to move quickly and confidently on both feet is critical.
I've averaged a little over 100K per month this year on the C2 and try to get 5-8 miles of running per week. Intervals and varying intensity for all of it, but a lot easier to mix that in on the rower.
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Agree on being able to physically move when you get older, but I try to solve for this by walking the dog, stretching, lifting some heavy stuff a few times a week. I'm not here to bash running, but rather to say it just doesn't work for me.
C2 is just impossible to beat for overall productivity- i.e., VO2 max training and resistance training all in one device. And I get plenty of bone density type activity between skiing and mt biking (road biking sucks for this of course).
100" of snow received in Nov along so far @pawz !!
 
Pre-covid was running 4 miles on a treadmill, 4-5 days a week. Covid and working from home completely threw that and eating habits off. Snacks easily available is not a good thing for me. Have been trying to get back on track but its been a struggle. Sports are ultimately the best exercise, though a bit rougher on the joints and muscles. I can play hoops or faggy pickle ball for 2 hours but wouldn't dare try that on the treadmill or through town.
 
huskyhooligan said:
Pre-covid was running 4 miles on a treadmill, 4-5 days a week. Covid and working from home completely threw that and eating habits off. Snacks easily available is not a good thing for me. Have been trying to get back on track but its been a struggle. Sports are ultimately the best exercise, though a bit rougher on the joints and muscles. I can play hoops or faggy pickle ball for 2 hours but wouldn't dare try that on the treadmill or through town.
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I’ve decided that for average adults pickleball is decent exercise. I mean it’s not tennis but you’re still moving around which is more than we can say for most Americans.
 
YellowSnow said:
huskyhooligan said:
Pre-covid was running 4 miles on a treadmill, 4-5 days a week. Covid and working from home completely threw that and eating habits off. Snacks easily available is not a good thing for me. Have been trying to get back on track but its been a struggle. Sports are ultimately the best exercise, though a bit rougher on the joints and muscles. I can play hoops or faggy pickle ball for 2 hours but wouldn't dare try that on the treadmill or through town.
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I’ve decided that for average adults pickleball is decent exercise. I mean it’s not tennis but you’re still moving around which is more than we can say for most Americans.
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Agreed! Its a much easier starter for most people than tennis. The serve alone being the biggest barrier.
 
The number of ACLs in 60-somethings has quintupled since the advent of pickleball.
But they’re healthier!
 
TheHB said:
YellowSnow said:
TheHB said:
The number of ACLs in 60-somethings has quintupled since the advent of pickleball.
But they’re healthier!
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ACLs can be fixed. A heart attack will kill ya.
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60-somethings are three and a half times more likely to have a coronary event after suffering an ACL tear.
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Well, good thing I’m not a pickle baller.

I’m 4 ski days into the season though and it’s not even December so pray for my knees.
 
Most pickle ballers I know think they’re athletes, getting all hot and bothered when they play, then having the gall to tell me all about their “match” over beers.
Gimme some ping pong or badminton and call it good.
 
did the sf marathon, it was hard, first half was a nice run on the waterfront/across the gg bridge, latter half was shit, running through random neighborhoods.

i also did an ironman, im az, that was also hard but it was november in AZ so it wasnt super hot, pretty flat course. i remember swimming in tempe town lake past sun devil stadium, felt like it took forever to swim past it.
 
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