So now we are the only MWC team in the PAC? Fucking fuck.
WE NEED TO REALIZE THIS IS AN UPHILL BATTLE!
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So now we are the only MWC team in the PAC? Fucking fuck.
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
Utah, Oregon State and WSU already beat us to that. But it is currently our positioning.
Basically “Chris Petersen at Ty-era UW”.
Well, we used kind of the SEC of the Pac in the 90's when we led attendance in the Pac by 20,000 per game. But still, we are a top flight research university so that's not us. Nope, we're the Michigan of the Pac to USC being tOSU (except we should be .500% at USC at worst). We need to brand as the clear #2 program west of Texas and that's just how it is. Great academis, but we give great deal about winning football games. 70,000 people don't show up to watch heart surgery at the med school as Lude used to say.
SarkFanSixtyNine
New Fish
wisconsin is the brand pete is shooting for
pigmentally challenged hard working boring grinders that beat their bad conference opponents but nobody nationally will ever care about them because their program is bland and not competitive against the big boys
everyone is very polite and encouraging and accidentally condescending to these programs but theres just no excitement. the "omg youre such a nice guy who will make another girl so happy some day but no not me and uhhh no not any one i know either lol" programs of college football. and this is exactly where pete wants to be. sickening.
i dont think clemson works because it was always "cool" even when they sucked. look at cj spiller picking them out of florida in 2006 despite them sucking for over a decade.
pigmentally challenged hard working boring grinders that beat their bad conference opponents but nobody nationally will ever care about them because their program is bland and not competitive against the big boys
everyone is very polite and encouraging and accidentally condescending to these programs but theres just no excitement. the "omg youre such a nice guy who will make another girl so happy some day but no not me and uhhh no not any one i know either lol" programs of college football. and this is exactly where pete wants to be. sickening.
i dont think clemson works because it was always "cool" even when they sucked. look at cj spiller picking them out of florida in 2006 despite them sucking for over a decade.
The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
DawgWagonDan
New Fish
The way I see it, it's a bit of a Seinfeld thing with CP and the branding of football. He hates labels and being labeled. It's a football team about nothing!
He hates when people bring up his history of trickery and deception -- primarily at BSU.
He claims that stats are for losers and won't embrace them.
He claims he doesn't know what a star is when it comes to recruiting.
He claims his program is not about football, it's about life.
He is neither run first nor pass first.
Good or bad, that is our branding with CP. Nothing in particular other than the OKG thing.
If we're talking about football marketing, that is all going to change when Adidas comes aboard. Let's hope we return to tradition. With continued winning at Montlake, and the Seahwaks on the decline, the hope is the Dwags will return to Seattle prominence and the stadium will be full and rocking every Saturday like days of yore. This then will become our brand over tim:
Year in-year out-winners;
Competing for titles;
Traditional purple and gold;
Best home field in the Pac -- sold out and rowdy.
SEC style school out west if you will. I'd take those 4 bullet points as our? brand.
He hates when people bring up his history of trickery and deception -- primarily at BSU.
He claims that stats are for losers and won't embrace them.
He claims he doesn't know what a star is when it comes to recruiting.
He claims his program is not about football, it's about life.
He is neither run first nor pass first.
Good or bad, that is our branding with CP. Nothing in particular other than the OKG thing.
If we're talking about football marketing, that is all going to change when Adidas comes aboard. Let's hope we return to tradition. With continued winning at Montlake, and the Seahwaks on the decline, the hope is the Dwags will return to Seattle prominence and the stadium will be full and rocking every Saturday like days of yore. This then will become our brand over tim:
Year in-year out-winners;
Competing for titles;
Traditional purple and gold;
Best home field in the Pac -- sold out and rowdy.
SEC style school out west if you will. I'd take those 4 bullet points as our? brand.
SarkFanSixtyNine
New Fish
Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
Yes.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
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SarkFanSixtyNine
New Fish
Pete's inner dialog:
Head coach Peterman, left, talks with head coach Saban, right, before 2016 playoff game[/i]
Head coach Peterman, left, talks with head coach Saban, right, before 2016 playoff game[/i]
Yes.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
In a much better city in a much more desirable state.
Dennis_DeYoung
New Fish
Yes.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
In a much better city in a much more desirable state.
Jesus, yes. Ever been to Ohio? FFS.
Yes.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
This is my preferred map
Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?
And all of central valley Ca.
This belongs in the Tug, but for any one who's interested.https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...live-in/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8d9a73d42ac3
Central Valley is trending El Norte obviously but it's rooted in Far West. Many of the Central VA counties in 2016 still went Red.
Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.
SarkFanSixtyNine
New Fish
As a case study, let's look at James Franklin of pedo state when he was at Vandy. He saw recruiting results immediately by promoting Nashville city life to fast-track kids. The results on the field quickly followed and he started miraculously winning multiple games in the SEC. He won 8 games two years in a row which hadn't been done since the 1920s. Unfortunately he bailed as soon as the players started getting arrested for gang rapes so we didn't get to see how successful this model could be at a non-traditional power.
Yes.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
In a much better city in a much more desirable state.
Jesus, yes. Ever been to Ohio? FFS.
I went back to Ohio once. We lost bigly because my program was gone. 12-0 my ass.
SarkFanSixtyNine
New Fish
Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits