Washington Poised For Downturn Under Petersen

[RoadDawg55]

Alright listen up you fuckos for the real deal.

The 92-12 is misleading. SRS is the fairest way to evaluate these things.

During Pete's 8-year tenure, his cumulative SRS was #11. Pretty damn good. But he took over a team that was trending higher in the years before he was HC. He was OC then though so he had a hand in that. I'm waiting for my buddy to get me the cumulative ranking on Boise in the 7-years prior to Pete. I'm doing away with the 8th year as it could skew the results a bit in favor of Boise looking worse b4 Pete. I just spent an hour looking at it and I'm guessing they come in at about #37 in the years b4 Pete and that excludes that one shitty year.

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Another thing to note is Utah was extremely similar pre-Wittingham to Boise pre-Pete. Like almost the same in the prior 6-7 years. I'm guessing under KW Utah has been around #30 during that period. So Pete is a much better coach than KW according to that- and people think KW is around the middle of the pac12.

Petersen will do well at UW. You are a fucktard if you think otherwise. How well? Whats your definition of well? and when?

Looking at the recruiting & building now, UW will soon look like the mid 90s teams that had strong lines, were big and tough, etc. But will it have the skill guys and stars like @Dennis_DeYoung talks about? DJ's best teams had those elite athletes. God damn I really wish Sankey, ASJ and Kasen were true freshman right now.

Pete will be here for 12-15 years and in some of those years he will get the stars and athletes that make UW a legit national title contender. It doesn't look like it in the first few years but when he reestablishes UW as a top 20 program he will be able to take recruiting from a 3.1-3.2 level up to 3.4. It happened with Harbaugh, Chip, etc. Its even happening with Dantonio and Graham now. Other thing is, Pete is a proven developer of talent and will do as well as anyone at the bottom of the class.

It's going to take some time as the conference is much tougher now as far as rebuilding (but its weaker at the very top). Again you are a fucktard if you think otherwise. I doubt Mora and Graham will be at those jobs for a while. Helfrich and Shaw will manage their schools regression, albeit slowly like UW's impending recovery. But its going to take 3-4 years, not 1-2 to get to the top of the North. That is the point when Petersen will be in position to compete nationally and bring in those top 15 classes.

Many great coaches start out slow but pick up huge momentum after the first few years. I've given examples…Briles, Snyder at KSU, Harbaugh. Even Gary fucking Pinkel has contented for a NC twice at fucking Missouri. Art Briles-15-21 his first 3 years, 40-13 since. Dantonio- 22-17 his first 3 years, 53-14 since. DJ 25-19 first 4 years then 125-40 and the 8th best record or 7th best SRS in that period. So frankly Roadie, it doesn't change the long-term outlook if he goes 6-7 this year and 8-5 next year. (That 8-5 would likely be a top 25 SRS).

Looking at Pete's track record, UW's history and advantages- @Auburndawg come back you pussy- theres no reason Pete won't be the 2nd best coach out of that group above. If not, blow up Husky Stadium and put the remnants in a fucking museum and close down the program forever.

Chest, a lot of this is pure speculation. You have numbers to back up your opinion, but it's still speculation. I'm glad he's the coach here, but all his past SRS ratings don't really mean shit. If he fails he won't be the first coach to fail at his next stop and vice versa. It happens.

All it shows is that he killed it at Boise and was a great hire. Everyone agrees. Beyond that, it's unknown. His success at Boise doesn't matter anymore, at least at UW.

Talking about recruiting is one thing, and we have some good prospects, but as noted before, Petersen had a clear talent advantage at Boise that he won't have here. SRS doesn't account for possibly not having a legitimate PAC 12 starter at QB. It doesn't account for Jonathon Smith.

I hope Petersen brings UW back, but it's hope. Crunching numbers doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

Roadie of course everything is speculation. I'm forming a long-term outlook based on UW's ability to recruit in the top 25, what he's done with recruiting so far, his background and track record at Boise, etc. Never did I say it was a foregone conclusion. I'm laying out what we should realistically expect for the next few years and for the next 10. Since the end of last year I've been saying that either year 3 or year 4 should be the inflection point for an acceleration in progress.

 

[Canard]

Roadie of course everything is speculation. I'm forming a long-term outlook based on UW's ability to recruit in the top 25, what he's done with recruiting so far, his background and track record at Boise, etc. Never did I say it was a foregone conclusion. I'm laying out what we should realistically expect for the next few years and for the next 10. Since the end of last year I've been saying that either year 3 or year 4 should be the inflection point for an acceleration in progress.

Or it's just AuburnDoog style happy horseshit—WITH MAFF!!!

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

Boise St in the 7 years prior to Pete was #34. They were #11 in his eight years.

 

[Dennis_DeYoung]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

 

[RoadDawg55]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" has some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years. That's a trend.

 

[Dennis_DeYoung]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.

I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.

You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play. And so you attribute a lot of us being horrible on offense to Pete, when it was really just that Miley was fucking awful and we couldn't do shit with him in games.

If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.

I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laughs, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.

Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to pete and how we performed last season.

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

 

[RoadDawg55]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.

I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.

You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play.

If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.

I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laps, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.

Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to people and how we performed last season.

I've admitted many times that Miley sucked and I was wrong, but okay. I'm still waiting for Lavon Coleman to prove he shouldn't be playing at Montana. I'm not bitter about anything. We played worse when the other QB's got their chance. Miley and the QB's were a large part of the problem. 3 years of bad offense is three years Denny. We've had these threads many times already so there isn't a need to hash it out again.

 

[Dennis_DeYoung]

Coleman win the Heisman you asshole!!

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Miles was less of a problem than Smith

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

Coleman BBK win the Heisman you asshole!!

FTFY

 

[Doogles]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.

I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.

You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play. And so you attribute a lot of us being horrible on offense to Pete, when it was really just that Miley was fucking awful and we couldn't do shit with him in games.

If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.

I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laughs, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.

Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to pete and how we performed last season.

In honor of rereading last year's game threads, here is the Zona recap.
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/15261/doogles-hardcore-game-thread-recap

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

Dennis_DeYoung after botched snap on extra point: Kill everyone.

 

[HFNY]

I don't think 3 years is a trend, at least not with 2 different programs, two different rosters, and 3 different starting QBs:

2012: Joe Southwick

2013: Grant Hendrick

2014: Cyler Miles (also starts by Lindquist and Troy Williams).

I wonder how Petersen would've done in 2014 at BSU with Hendrick returning at QB, Jay Ajayi returning at RB, and his top 2 WRs returning as well...I have to imagine the BSU's offense would've improved under CP in 2014 like it did under Bryan Harsin.

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" has some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years. That's a trend.

 

[BallSacked]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" has some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years. That's a trend.

I didn't see this mentioned here - but Pete had some interesting quotes to this effect on the ESPNU championship drive pod with Maisel.

Ivan asked him if he maybe tried to install too much last year. Peterson (if I recall correctly) said it wasn't quite that, but more that he underestimated how hard it was to change a culture and said he should have asked for input or focus from other coaches on how to do that. He said he underestimated what made Boise special and how hard it was to build that at another school.

I thought it was some interesting quotes from a guy that is notoriously tight-lipped.

 

[Swaye]

@HeretoBeatmyChest said it best. Pete is good. Give him some fucking time.

Taking last year—a year where he obviously ripped everything down to the studs—as being 'concerning' is a little weird. I hate Babushka as much as the next guy, but let's see what happens this and next year when they get their guys in.

These are a lot of cliches, but in this case I fear they are true because Pete actually does have a system, his kind of guys, etc. Sark had none of that shit. Sark just took over the roster and said F it. So did Neu. I don't even know what Gilby did.

This season will be a lot more diagnostic. Although @RoadDawg55 likes to point to the UCLA game as being the basis of all his fears, that game was really a 'wrong place, wrong time' for everything that was going on last year.

It's instructive to me that we played way, way better as the season went on. You can say that's because we got shitty opponents, but that's not really the case. We played like shit against everyone early and by the end of the year, we blew the doors off 2 mediocre/bad teams (OSU and WSU). If we'd played Hawai'i again at the end of the season, we'd have destroyed them.

I think Pete's record gives him the privilege of a 'half-full glass' look. If you look at last year as a half full glass, the read is pretty simple:

He told everyone to suck it and do it his way. He dicked around a lot to just see what people would do, could do, were willing to do.

By the end of the year, we were really not very bad as he got people to play more 'his way', started using the 'talent' better and minimizing the impact of Miley on shit.

The Okie State game was just another Sark-era setback where people backslid with mental intensity. We actually played well in the second half, but it was too late.

This is why people picking us to be shit because we lost players is sort of missing the point. Shaq did make big plays, true; but when we 'got good' Shaq was almost irrelevant. MP was clearly irrelevant, it was really just Danny (who was totally inconsistent before last year) and Hau'oli who had only been good against crap teams.

I should just erase this poast as it's Teqfuckinglong, but I'm hung over so I'm typing. Fuck it.

We played well against Illinois and Cal early in the year. Cal on the road was probably the best game of the season. I don't buy that the team improved so much late in the year. They were average. Some weeks they played reasonably well, other weeks not so much. That's what average teams do.

And more power to you for keeping the optimism in the face of last season's results. I get that it's only one season, but The assessment that Pete came in and said, "Fuck it, we are doing this my way" might have some merit, but his offenses have been shit for three years.

I agree that things should get better with time, but still. There are plenty of things to be concerned about.

You're just bitter because Miley turned out to be a bag of shit and you thought he was great. So, you're overly cynical because you—even during games—thought we were getting decent-to-good QB play. And so you attribute a lot of us being horrible on offense to Pete, when it was really just that Miley was fucking awful and we couldn't do shit with him in games.

If you ever want to make yourself feel like a fuck wad, you should definitely go back in to game threads from last year and read your Miley dooging. It was unstoppable.

I read through one of them a couple months ago for some laughs, because obviously I was being an insane idiot, and your Miley dooging gave me a few uncontrollable cringes.

Anyway, none of that matters. But, I do think it explains your cynicism when it comes to pete and how we performed last season.

In honor of rereading last year's game threads, here is the Zona recap.
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/15261/doogles-hardcore-game-thread-recap

I laffed. And bumped that old beauty.

 

[bananasnblondes]

To be

Miles was less of a problem than Smith

Smith's playcalling was vanilla as shit but when your quarterback can't even throw the ball 10 yards downfield accurately, that's a way bigger issue than the person calling plays

 

[purpledoogfan]

[/QUOTE]I've admitted many times that Miley sucked and I was wrong, but okay. I'm still waiting for Lavon Coleman to prove he shouldn't be playing at Montana. I'm not bitter about anything. We played worse when the other QB's got their chance. Miley and the QB's were a large part of the problem. 3 years of bad offense is three years Denny. We've had these threads many times already so there isn't a need to hash it out again.[/QUOTE]

I'm sick and tired of your lying bullshit Roadie. BSU had a fucking top 25 offense in 2013. 22nd in yds per game (476) and 20th in pts per game (37.5). Pete had ONE average year at BSU in 2012 when he was replacing the most productive QB in the history of college football. BSU also happened to go 11-2 that year including the Vegas Bowl victory over UW. So who fucking cares about offensive stats when your team goes 11-2?

Like someone else pointed out in this thread, the two years CP has had an average offense ('12 &'14) he's had shitty QB play. There's not a coach in the country that can produce a top 25 offense without a decent QB. Miley can't throw a football farther than 10 yards. How the fuck do you run an offense with that? The play calling last year lacked creativity because we were held back by shitty QB play. A lot of what CP does on offense is allow the QB to call plays and make changes at the LOS. Kellen Moore was a master at doing this. At the LOS he was able to see the mismatches in personnel and call the correct play to exploit the mismatch. Do you think Miley could do this? Fuck no!

You need the right QB to run Petes offense. Sark left Pete a bunch of fucktards. That's why Pete went out of his way and had been recruiting Browning since he was a freshman. I have confidence that once Browning takes over at QB the offense is going to be just as explosive as it was at BSU. He's going to struggle at first and take his lumps but when he gains the experience and confidence he's going to be great. I expect growing pains this year but we'll all see glimpses of what's to come. Expect 5 or 6 wins this year if Browning starts. Next year 9 or 10 wins.

#StraightUpDoogin

 

[greenblood]

I like to say that a coach was only good because of his QB during a historic run of success that many other programs couldn't match.

I like to ignore that the coach still does a lot of other shit like: recruit the QB, Hire the coaches, Instill the culture, develop a nasty defense, recruit other players besides QB, etc.

If the QB was the only thing that mattered in football, Cal would be the favorite in the conference this year.

Petersen may suck here, but anyone can suck anywhere, it doesn't discredit what he did at Boise.

Didn't he also win a Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma back when they were Oklahoma, before he had said quarterback?