WA State Teacher Salaries

[HHusky]

My neighbors are retired, fixed retirement income, never made more the 60k in their entire career salt of the earth folks. They had a niece, a teacher, and sister in law who works in admin at UW, reach out for assistance for school supplies. I looked up their salaries, explained that both the sister in law and niece both make over 100k a year, and they quickly decided to decline providing assistance.

Begs the question. Why are teachers either digging into their own pockets or bothering the neighbors for help with school supplies?

 

[HHusky]

When the FBI investigates parents who want to get involved it is a bit of a chilling effect
Schools are actively hostile to parents
And parents are shitty. Both can be true

My FBI file must be really thick,

 

[Bob_C]

I’m fine paying teachers, provided they are good and evaluated. Not ok paying an army of admins. There are something like 11m education employees nationwide and over half are admins. The admins are required in many cases because of regulation from DoE.

 

[HHusky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893538767853826545

Not too terrible for only working 3/4 of the year, getting every holiday imaginable off as well as “teacher work days”
Now obviously these aren’t starting salaries but that’s an impressive raise scale over a 4 year span.

Advanced degree, 15+ years of service, taking on additional contract incentives and responsibilities outside of school hours, cashing in unused sick days, and teaching in the Northshore School District (in the case of the highest paid teacher in the category) can get you to a pretty decent payday in the State of Washington. Not shedding any tears for the very top earners, but they only got there by paying their dues, not unlike the high earners in any occupation. And anyone who thinks teachers work only on school days didn't grow up in a school teacher's household.

A teacher who starts at 23 and works for 25 years can retire at roughly 50 making $200,000 plus gold plated benefits for the rest of their lives. So if they live to the age of 80, they will have been paid $7,500,000. Do you have any clue what it would take someone in the private sector to do that via a 401k? This is extremely rare but very common for the government employee.

You're getting hysterical now. Perhaps if that teacher not only reaches the 200K plateau (which was the absolute highest example, not the mean or median) but also lives to be 140.

 

[HHusky]

One really simple, low-cost fix would be to actually impose consequences for chronic absenteeism. Can't teach kids who aren't in school.
The current generation of parents may be the worst ever on this issue.

Passing the buck after a challenge to a fair point.

Whoever didn’t see that coming should blame a teacher.

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"The near doubling of chronic absenteeism since 2018 isn't a problem", declared pawz.

 

[huskyhooligan]

My neighbors are retired, fixed retirement income, never made more the 60k in their entire career salt of the earth folks. They had a niece, a teacher, and sister in law who works in admin at UW, reach out for assistance for school supplies. I looked up their salaries, explained that both the sister in law and niece both make over 100k a year, and they quickly decided to decline providing assistance.

Begs the question. Why are teachers either digging into their own pockets or bothering the neighbors for help with school supplies?

Bad with money.

 

[thechatch]

My neighbors are retired, fixed retirement income, never made more the 60k in their entire career salt of the earth folks. They had a niece, a teacher, and sister in law who works in admin at UW, reach out for assistance for school supplies. I looked up their salaries, explained that both the sister in law and niece both make over 100k a year, and they quickly decided to decline providing assistance.

Begs the question. Why are teachers either digging into their own pockets or bothering the neighbors for help with school supplies?

Bad with money.

I was told that teachers didn’t get into it for the money but for the love of the children.
And free summers

 

[pawz]

One really simple, low-cost fix would be to actually impose consequences for chronic absenteeism. Can't teach kids who aren't in school.
The current generation of parents may be the worst ever on this issue.

Passing the buck after a challenge to a fair point.

Whoever didn’t see that coming should blame a teacher.

.

"The near doubling of chronic absenteeism since 2018 isn't a problem", declared pawz.

"Disavowing the free market," says the MBA.

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[HHusky]

My neighbors are retired, fixed retirement income, never made more the 60k in their entire career salt of the earth folks. They had a niece, a teacher, and sister in law who works in admin at UW, reach out for assistance for school supplies. I looked up their salaries, explained that both the sister in law and niece both make over 100k a year, and they quickly decided to decline providing assistance.

Begs the question. Why are teachers either digging into their own pockets or bothering the neighbors for help with school supplies?

Bad with money.

I was told that teachers didn’t get into it for the money but for the love of the children.
And free summers

I guess if you're retarded, you might see a conflict between enjoying your job and expecting to be paid.

 

[thechatch]

This is like 8yo rolling around on a mat level mental gymnastics.
Do better.

 

[HHusky]

This is like 8yo rolling around on a mat level mental gymnastics.
Do better.

#likeable!

 

[DucksFC]

I have a good number of school teacher friends. They bitch, then spend every school holiday, and summer travelling their little hearts out. But you know, they work, like at nights sometime.

lol exactly

My kids go to school at 800 and are done at 2:30(12:30 on Wednesday!)

neither of them ever have homework. All lessons are completed in class. This is elementary and middle school.

No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard.

if you think they don’t work that hard, you don’t know any K-8 teachers.

I know 3 actually

Then you would know why your post is retarded.
There's a lot of shit to bitch about. Bitching that teachers don't work enough is one of the dumbest things I've ever read here. Middle school teachers especially as others have said. The amount of shit they put up with would put most of you in a rubber room.
@Goduckies you can fuck off my posts all you want, you're still not cool enough to join the club.

 

[thechatch]

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

 

[DucksFC]

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

"No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard."
go do it for a day then, shit for brains.

 

[RaceBannon]

Those that can't do, teach

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Teacher's retire at either the highest or second highest rate as millionaires. Dave Ramsey talks about it all the time.
These are people that work 9/12 and retire ~55 on average. These are also generally people that can't pass algebra 2.
I'm fine with it, I pay my kids Teacher's at private really well because I want them to get a good education.
Let's put to bed that Teacher's are some lower class roughneck's downtrodden by society.
110% behind slashing administration in education.

 

[thechatch]

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

"No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard."
go do it for a day then, shit for brains.

I stand by my statement. I’m sorry you got mad.

But hey, you got off a half hour ago and have the whole afternoon to decompress and vent over 12yo Braden talking back to you during social studies
Teaching is a very important job. We want good educators who are paid fairly…preferably merit-based. Currently our public schools are failing miserably, so something has to change. I’ve never advocated for lower salaries for teachers but what I am saying is that y’all aren’t exactly living in poverty. I’d like to see a higher % of my tax dollars flow to you and your students and less toward administrators.
That’s all. Again…it’s important work, but let’s not pretend that it’s 80hrs a week on an Oil Derrick for minimum wage.

 

[HHusky]

Teacher's retire at either the highest or second highest rate as millionaires. Dave Ramsey talks about it all the time.
These are people that work 9/12 and retire ~55 on average. These are also generally people that can't pass algebra 2.
I'm fine with it, I pay my kids Teacher's at private really well because I want them to get a good education.
Let's put to bed that Teacher's are some lower class roughneck's downtrodden by society.
110% behind slashing administration in education.

Ramsey specifically uses the example of teachers becoming millionaires to illustrate that you don't have to have a high income to become a millionaire. Undercuts your argument, actually.

 

[Bob_C]

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

"No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard."
go do it for a day then, shit for brains.

I stand by my statement. I’m sorry you got mad.

But hey, you got off a half hour ago and have the whole afternoon to decompress and vent over 12yo Braden talking back to you during social studies
Teaching is a very important job. We want good educators who are paid fairly…preferably merit-based. Currently our public schools are failing miserably, so something has to change. I’ve never advocated for lower salaries for teachers but what I am saying is that y’all aren’t exactly living in poverty. I’d like to see a higher % of my tax dollars flow to you and your students and less toward administrators.
That’s all. Again…it’s important work, but let’s not pretend that it’s 80hrs a week on an Oil Derrick for minimum wage.

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

"No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard."
go do it for a day then, shit for brains.

I stand by my statement. I’m sorry you got mad.

But hey, you got off a half hour ago and have the whole afternoon to decompress and vent over 12yo Braden talking back to you during social studies
Teaching is a very important job. We want good educators who are paid fairly…preferably merit-based. Currently our public schools are failing miserably, so something has to change. I’ve never advocated for lower salaries for teachers but what I am saying is that y’all aren’t exactly living in poverty. I’d like to see a higher % of my tax dollars flow to you and your students and less toward administrators.
That’s all. Again…it’s important work, but let’s not pretend that it’s 80hrs a week on an Oil Derrick for minimum wage.

Laughed as there are 2 Braden’s and 3 Hudson’s in my daughter class. Also two Chloe’s and two Sophie’s.

 

[Sledog]

I never said they don’t work enough.

I said that 112k a year plus benefits and pension is P good for getting summers off.
Your homeroom kids being extra salty today or what?

"No one teaching K-8 is working THAT hard."
go do it for a day then, shit for brains.

Says a lefty dingbat that thinks cops get paid too much for what they do.