UW vs UCLA gifs Special Education ADHD meanderings edition.

[chuck]

I don't know why they aren't getting more creative and using McGrew out of the backfield in the passing game.

Pleasant and Newton should be the guys for the short yardage situations.

Pleasant is a very good receiver and a bigger target. With the way the running game has clicked with him in over the last couple of games I would only be taking him off the field when he needs a rest.

 

[HFNY]

I don't know why they aren't getting more creative and using McGrew out of the backfield in the passing game.

Pleasant and Newton should be the guys for the short yardage situations.

Pleasant is a very good receiver and a bigger target. With the way the running game has clicked with him in over the last couple of games I would only be taking him off the field when he needs a rest.

Sure, or mix it up and put both Pleasant and McGrew in the backfield flanking the QB with 2 WRs and Otton as the other skill guys. Lots of fun stuff you can do there (send both RBs out for on flares to widen the defense and then hit Otton over the middle for example).

Or you keep one of the RBs in to block, send the other on an angle / Texas route, with Otton going up the seam to clear it out. Otton would be the first look, the RB would be the second look, etc etc.

Hey Jimmy Fake, I could replace JonDon and cost you half as much!

 

[biak1]

Analysis worthless without SLUGGO

 

[Houhusky]

MorrisFS... its 3rd and 4 on your own 20 dumbfuck... You know Otton is going to run a little out/stick route with guaranteed outside leverage, just hit him for the first down. I dont know how you justify this throw unless a coach is telling him to just rip it deep before the snap... This entire play is a really basic stick concept where the QB's primary read is the leverage of the 3rd inside WR (Otton). The Vertical route is not even an option from the start because its being played by a non pressing safety in man coverage. There is no excuse to throw the vertical here. This is actually a good playcall for this situation against the UCLA man blitz for a 4 yard first down.

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This play was just awful designed. The WR at the top should have vacated that zone. By hunkering down as an outlet he kept his defender in the area to effectively cover him and bracket Otton. If Morris checks down to Cade its either a bang-bang play with Otton getting sandwiched or possibly a pick. Just JonDon level stupid.

Nah... this is a correctly designed, its a basic stick concept. It is run by nearly every team in the NFL... Saints and Panthers run some version of it constantly against man. Some teams will have the outside WR run the vertical route others will rotate their WR1 into the slot to run the vertical route against Cover 1 man. UW's outside WR could have sold his route better... but this wasn't a play design issue and there is more than enough space to hit Otton for a 5 yard first down.

 

[Tequilla]

MorrisFS... its 3rd and 4 on your own 20 dumbfuck... You know Otton is going to run a little out/stick route with guaranteed outside leverage, just hit him for the first down. I dont know how you justify this throw unless a coach is telling him to just rip it deep before the snap... This entire play is a really basic stick concept where the QB's primary read is the leverage of the 3rd inside WR (Otton). The Vertical route is not even an option from the start because its being played by a non pressing safety in man coverage. There is no excuse to throw the vertical here. This is actually a good playcall for this situation against the UCLA man blitz for a 4 yard first down.

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This play was just awful designed. The WR at the top should have vacated that zone. By hunkering down as an outlet he kept his defender in the area to effectively cover him and bracket Otton. If Morris checks down to Cade its either a bang-bang play with Otton getting sandwiched or possibly a pick. Just JonDon level stupid.

Nah... this is a correctly designed, its a basic stick concept. It is run by nearly every team in the NFL... Saints and Panthers run some version of it constantly against man. Some teams will have the outside WR run the vertical route others will rotate their WR1 into the slot to run the vertical route against Cover 1 man. UW's outside WR could have sold his route better... but this wasn't a play design issue and there is more than enough space to hit Otton for a 5 yard first down.

Problem is the UW WR didn’t run a stick up the field … he took one step and stopped

That doesn’t threaten the DB at all and allows him to effectively switch from full man to more of a zone principal where there’s now a chance for him to jump the Cade route if not thrown on time

The concept may be sound but the execution isn’t whether that be by the scheme not being fully accurate, lazy coaching/execution, or abundance

 

[AtomicDawg]

MorrisFS... its 3rd and 4 on your own 20 dumbfuck... You know Otton is going to run a little out/stick route with guaranteed outside leverage, just hit him for the first down. I dont know how you justify this throw unless a coach is telling him to just rip it deep before the snap... This entire play is a really basic stick concept where the QB's primary read is the leverage of the 3rd inside WR (Otton). The Vertical route is not even an option from the start because its being played by a non pressing safety in man coverage. There is no excuse to throw the vertical here. This is actually a good playcall for this situation against the UCLA man blitz for a 4 yard first down.

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This play was just awful designed. The WR at the top should have vacated that zone. By hunkering down as an outlet he kept his defender in the area to effectively cover him and bracket Otton. If Morris checks down to Cade its either a bang-bang play with Otton getting sandwiched or possibly a pick. Just JonDon level stupid.

Nah... this is a correctly designed, its a basic stick concept. It is run by nearly every team in the NFL... Saints and Panthers run some version of it constantly against man. Some teams will have the outside WR run the vertical route others will rotate their WR1 into the slot to run the vertical route against Cover 1 man. UW's outside WR could have sold his route better... but this wasn't a play design issue and there is more than enough space to hit Otton for a 5 yard first down.

Problem is the UW WR didn’t run a stick up the field … he took one step and stopped

That doesn’t threaten the DB at all and allows him to effectively switch from full man to more of a zone principal where there’s now a chance for him to jump the Cade route if not thrown on time

The concept may be sound but the execution isn’t whether that be by the scheme not being fully accurate, lazy coaching/execution, or abundance

This has turned into a dick measuring contest on who knows more about breaking down film.

Cade was open. Morris throws unnecessarily deep on 3rd and short regardless of how anyone sold their route. The end.

 

[theknowledge]

MorrisFS... its 3rd and 4 on your own 20 dumbfuck... You know Otton is going to run a little out/stick route with guaranteed outside leverage, just hit him for the first down. I dont know how you justify this throw unless a coach is telling him to just rip it deep before the snap... This entire play is a really basic stick concept where the QB's primary read is the leverage of the 3rd inside WR (Otton). The Vertical route is not even an option from the start because its being played by a non pressing safety in man coverage. There is no excuse to throw the vertical here. This is actually a good playcall for this situation against the UCLA man blitz for a 4 yard first down.

View attachment 44221

This play was just awful designed. The WR at the top should have vacated that zone. By hunkering down as an outlet he kept his defender in the area to effectively cover him and bracket Otton. If Morris checks down to Cade its either a bang-bang play with Otton getting sandwiched or possibly a pick. Just JonDon level stupid.

Nah... this is a correctly designed, its a basic stick concept. It is run by nearly every team in the NFL... Saints and Panthers run some version of it constantly against man. Some teams will have the outside WR run the vertical route others will rotate their WR1 into the slot to run the vertical route against Cover 1 man. UW's outside WR could have sold his route better... but this wasn't a play design issue and there is more than enough space to hit Otton for a 5 yard first down.

Problem is the UW WR didn’t run a stick up the field … he took one step and stopped

That doesn’t threaten the DB at all and allows him to effectively switch from full man to more of a zone principal where there’s now a chance for him to jump the Cade route if not thrown on time

The concept may be sound but the execution isn’t whether that be by the scheme not being fully accurate, lazy coaching/execution, or abundance

This has turned into a dick measuring contest on who knows more about breaking down film.

Cade was open. Morris throws unnecessarily deep on 3rd and short regardless of how anyone sold their route. The end.

Fair. As I don’t do well with dick measuring in general let alone film breakdown I’m willing to let this drop.