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"Quit living in the past. You keep thinking this is 1991 and it just isn't. College Football has changed and you just gotta accept we won't ever get there"- Doog
"That's total bullshit. It's all about coaching. Bama, USC, Ohio State, Florida, Oklahoma have all been great with a great coach and all been shit with bad coaching. Washington is no different. Get a good coach here and we'll win"- Me when talking to Doogs.
That last point is why I think deep down inside Doogs are scared UW will win immediately under Petersen. It will prove us all right as I'm sure you've had those conversations as well.
It's so annoying and when Petersen wins I won't let Doogs forget it. I'll remind them that they said we couldn't get a better coach than Sark, that times haven't changed that much that it's still all about the coach, that a great coach doesn't need fucking five years and how they all wanted to extend Sark the minute after the apple cup so all this success would have never happened had they been running the fucking program. I'll also remind those fucks that we were all celebrating when Sark left while they were in full panic mode.
As always the HHB's were right and the dumb fuck Doogs were wrong. Of course as time goes on more and more people will have "never" supported Sark just like nobody now claims to have supported Ty. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
HeretoBeatmyChest
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Re: Petersen and Sark, there is a reasonable chance these two will meet in a pac-12 title game at somepoint and Sark's job could be on the line. Think 2016.
I would love it if this happens. USC should get better after the first year, but it's going to create strain on the program. I think they would have a tough time winning 10 this year with a good coach. With Sark, they win 8 max. I'm predicting 7-6.
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I don't see it. Sark isn't beating Mora and he'll drop some road games to teams less talented.
HeretoBeatmyChest
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You don't think USC will win the South at least once in the next 3-4 years? They average a conference title every 2.5 years.
I don't think Mora is staying at UCLA that long. Over/under is 2 years. He's trying to win a title with Myles Jack, Hundley, and Vanderdoes. When a good NFL job becomes available, he's out. The Seahawks job and getting fired after one year eats at a competitor like him.
I'm skeptical. I could see it happening, but I also have a hard time believing Sark will coach them to the road wins needed to get a title. Maybe he gets lucky one season after losing 2 or even 3 conference games and sneaks in.
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He's a bad coach and the south has became stronger. Plus after this year no more skipping Oregon or UW.
You are what your record says you are. He went 34-29 at UW and 24-21 in conference play. I don't see him winning the south at all.
Who in the south after UCLA has the talent that USC has? We all know Sark won't do much to develop it but there's less developing for him to do. I can see a 9-3 or 10-2 regular season within the next 3 years that wins the south for USC.
Sark can then have that added under the championships tab on his website.
Sark can then have that added under the championships tab on his website.
mobey
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I've had this argument over and over saying UW is a football school only to be told "James left over 20 years ago".
You define a football school as one that has had success over time and different coaches. Alabama didn't stop being a football school when they had shitty coaching and were .500.
This is literally the first hire I've liked since James.
We'll be back though it could take a couple years to get his systems going.
You define a football school as one that has had success over time and different coaches. Alabama didn't stop being a football school when they had shitty coaching and were .500.
This is literally the first hire I've liked since James.
We'll be back though it could take a couple years to get his systems going.
Vegasdawg
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I've been busy and away most of the time lately, but this is as good a thread as there is talking Husky football. Sadly conversations like this one are not welcome over there. The cat and mouse game we had to play when Sark left and Pete was hired was very telling. And then the chat conversations where we had to walk on egg shells if the pro Sark moderator Kim was in the room was funny. Some of us thought we would get the boot for expressing the truth about 3DB. Anyway, it's good to see honest expressions that are not done under duress.
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Talent has never been an issue for Sark though. At Washington he constantly lost to teams who Washington was out recruiting.
Also the sanctions will start to hurt the program. UW had sanction recruiting classes in 1994 and 1995 those fifth year classes were 1998 and 1999 which went 6-6 and 7-5. Also very few guys were drafted which back then was unheard of for Washington.
I also agree with Road Dawg that USC will have a rough year this year going 8-5 if not 7-6. Unlike up here the heat will be turned up on Sark after year one. He has shown in the past when facing adversity he becomes a whiny bitch and unlike up here the media won't let him get away with it down there.
Also remember due to the LA's always having to play the northern Cal schools in 2015-2016 USC will be skipping WSU and Oregon State while playing UW and Oregon instead. In that same window conversely UCLA will be playing Oregon State and WSU instead of UW and Oregon.
I really don't see Sark winning the South unless the South is a down year and he wins with a 6-3 conference record. I think Mora will crush him, I think Graham at ASU will have a better program and I think Rich Rod will be just like how Mike Leach is in the North where he won't ever win it(Sorry PGOS) but he'll be annoying. I can see Rich Rod upsetting Sark at home.
HeretoBeatmyChest
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Who did Sark "constantly" lose to who he out-recruited? We've established that he was a pretty ordinary recruiter. The games I can think of are OSU 2011 and Boise & WSU in 2012. Even saying sometimes is a stretch because Sark was good at beating the teams he should. His problem was he was a total front runner.
At USC he's going to have top 10 talent, so reasonably we could assume he will have top 20 teams. Their defense is going to be very good under Wilcox. Before Wilcox UW's defense yards per play nationally was 108-68-102. Following that UW was 48th in 2012 and 20th in 2013.
Now the sanctions and schedule especially are very good points. When will the sanctions hurt them most? Is it now? The next two years?
I would think by years 3-4 USC under this staff will solidly be a top 15 team just based on talent and competent defensive coaching. However, maybe after struggles the first two seasons, they'll need to be top 10 or top 5 to keep their jobs.
I still say that its a bit of a stretch to say USC won't win the South at least once while Sark is there. ASU will be rebuilding. Arizona is only a mild threat. UCLA is the only real competition and they'll need to replace Hundley after next year. As long as Mora is there I do think they will win the South most years.
At USC he's going to have top 10 talent, so reasonably we could assume he will have top 20 teams. Their defense is going to be very good under Wilcox. Before Wilcox UW's defense yards per play nationally was 108-68-102. Following that UW was 48th in 2012 and 20th in 2013.
Now the sanctions and schedule especially are very good points. When will the sanctions hurt them most? Is it now? The next two years?
I would think by years 3-4 USC under this staff will solidly be a top 15 team just based on talent and competent defensive coaching. However, maybe after struggles the first two seasons, they'll need to be top 10 or top 5 to keep their jobs.
I still say that its a bit of a stretch to say USC won't win the South at least once while Sark is there. ASU will be rebuilding. Arizona is only a mild threat. UCLA is the only real competition and they'll need to replace Hundley after next year. As long as Mora is there I do think they will win the South most years.
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Chest agenda towards Wilcox is as bad as Kim towards Sark.
UW consistently out recruits the AZ schools yet he's 3-5 against them and 0-4 on the road.
This Wilcox myth continues to live on. His defense never did shit against a good offense. Same with Tennessee as they got worse under him than previous coach.
UW consistently out recruits the AZ schools yet he's 3-5 against them and 0-4 on the road.
This Wilcox myth continues to live on. His defense never did shit against a good offense. Same with Tennessee as they got worse under him than previous coach.
PostGameOrangeSlices
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Sark is not winning the south. Ever.
I'd put $1000 on dat
I'd put $1000 on dat