UW Couch Sales & Purchases (Portal Tracker)

BleachedAnusDawg said:
I can't imagine more than 2 - 3 players a year actually netting a return on the NIL money they're given. I think Nike has made money off of being Oregon's daddy. Other than that, the people spending big on NIL just want to win games at any cost. UW doesn't have that mentality and will never seek out that kind of donor because they don't know how to manage people like that and don't want to give up any control.
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Agreed. And this type of donor IS NOT A FORTUNE 500 COMPANY, unless of course you have the type of "special relationship," that Nike has with Oregon.

All of the other schools have billionaires that have cashed out of their companies and now have playground/sandbox money that they can throw around without any reasonable expectation of ROI other than the pride of winning.
 
houseofpain247 said:
What ROI is there for companies to pay a kid with regional name recognition millions only for the kid to leave the region after one season? That's the problem with this whole NIL thing. The actual players with true national recognition that would justify any sort of REAL endorsement deal with meaningful value don't play at UW.

Fortune 500 companies are OUT in terms of paying NIL contracts. Why would they? It only makes sense for companies like Alaska Airlines to pay guys like Rome Odunze and Michael Penix because they were guaranteed first round picks who had ALREADY CHOSEN TO STAY at UW for their final seasons. There was zero threat that they would leave.
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This has always been the thing, the actual NIL value of college athletes has across the board always been super low. There are very few college athletes in a given year that have any sort of marketing value across the country - very few Tebows, Manziels, Caitlin Clarks, Zion Williamsons. Locally, Penix and Rome were a rare exception and even they weren't that valuable till their last seasons at UW. Locally, you also usually have a guy or two who probably can sell their jerseys and some limited merch.

So what we have now instead is just bribery from independent rich guys who create an artificial market based on how much money they're willing to waste (cool) it's not about courting Fortune 500 companies. They don't care. Everyone who doesn't have a random billionaire invested in wasting money on their program or a massive amount of near billionaires, is fucked.
 
WoolleyDoog said:
This has always been the thing, the actual NIL value of college athletes has across the board always been super low. There are very few college athletes in a given year that have any sort of marketing value across the country - very few Tebows, Manziels, Caitlin Clarks, Zion Williamsons. Locally, Penix and Rome were a rare exception and even they weren't that valuable till their last seasons at UW. Locally, you also usually have a guy or two who probably can sell their jerseys and some limited merch.

So what we have now instead is just bribery from independent rich guys who create an artificial market based on how much money they're willing to waste (cool) it's not about courting Fortune 500 companies. They don't care. Everyone who doesn't have a random billionaire invested in wasting money on their program or a massive amount of near billionaires, is fucked.
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Gates doesn't give a shit about sports. He's a super nerd.

Ballmer does, though principally basketball. I thought someone on here said Fisch is talking with Ballmer about doing something for Husky Football? Ballmer is much more competitive on the sports side and his net worth is massive so it's a good tree for UW to bark up. Baller could donate $10 million a year and wouldn't even notice it being gone.
 
HFNY said:
Gates doesn't give a shit about sports. He's a super nerd.

Ballmer does, though principally basketball. I thought someone on here said Fisch is talking with Ballmer about doing something for Husky Football? Ballmer is much more competitive on the sports side and his net worth is massive so it's a good tree for UW to bark up. Baller could donate $10 million a year and wouldn't even notice it being gone.
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A guy like Ballmer is clearly the type you'd need.

Also - Amazon, Starbucks, Microsoft, Alaska Airlines....These companies have minted THOUSANDS of millionaires in the Seattle area. I find it so hard to believe that there aren't a few dozen that have $300-$500 million that could pool some resources and get things going for us. It's really easy for me to spend someone else's money though. UW needs to make the case that it's worth their while to do it.
 
I'm curious about what you're writing here about Nike. How is Nike making more money because the Ducks have a strong football program? Would Nike not sell as many Chinese child labor shit shoes if the Ducks sucked?
 
RoadTrip said:
I'm curious about what you're writing here about Nike. How is Nike making more money because the Ducks have a strong football program? Would Nike not sell as many Chinese child labor shit shoes if the Ducks sucked?
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I have no data, but my impression is that they've been really successful expanding their agreements with other schools after establishing Oregon as a national brand. Look at schools like Michigan with Jordan branding, etc. I think they probably grew their college apparel sales quite a bit on the backs of making Oregon the cool school.
 
Number one receiver isn’t happening. Combo of money and not wanting to upset the 8+freshman and sophomores we have that. Might add a vet like Evans, whoopty do.
 
RaceBannon said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2011982224955232285

Fucking JMU coaches
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They have 39 commits and an average rating of 86.06. UW has a class with only 9 currently committed with an average rating of 87. For reference, In 2024 UW’s portal class was ranked 11th with 29 commits and an average rating of 87.07. A lot of those guys sucked and were brought on to cover a roster nuked after DeFour loss left. UCLA also had to replace half their roster. I like Chesney and they might be good, maybe, but when most teams do this type of overhaul the initial results aren’t great. Cigarette is really the lone example of an instant turnaround through strictly portal recruiting.
 
RoadTrip said:
I'm curious about what you're writing here about Nike. How is Nike making more money because the Ducks have a strong football program? Would Nike not sell as many Chinese child labor shit shoes if the Ducks sucked?
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I meant that Nike is partnering with the ducks regardless of potential ROI (there is none) because of their special relationship. They are spending even though there isn't ROI. Not many companies are willing to do that, Nike is because of uncle Phil.
 
theknowledge said:
They have 39 commits and an average rating of 86.06. UW has a class with only 9 currently committed with an average rating of 87. For reference, In 2024 UW’s portal class was ranked 11th with 29 commits and an average rating of 87.07. A lot of those guys sucked and were brought on to cover a roster nuked after DeFour loss left. UCLA also had to replace half their roster. I like Chesney and they might be good, maybe, but when most teams do this type of overhaul the initial results aren’t great. Cigarette is really the lone example of an instant turnaround through strictly portal recruiting.
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I'm pretty sure no one thought 55 JMU guys would have Indiana here

Positive in fact
 
Quietcowskee said:
Jedd has talked extensively about courting the Fortune 500 companies so where do you see the disconnect? Is it Chun, “upper campus,” or that Jedd isn’t putting a good enough product on the field?
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I don't think UW is doing a good job of putting compelling business cases in front of the businesses to sign off on them

I'm not on the inside to be able to say where the disconnect is although I've opined both here and on X/Spaces

There are advantages to UW to be able to leverage local Fortune 500 businesses IF they can create compelling use cases for them ... the challenge is are you looking at local vs national campaigns and what are the numbers attached ... local companies aren't going to enter into any kind of deal where the ROI doesn't make sense for them

I'll give a good example that I've used elsewhere as to the inherent challenges ...

In Texas, HEB is a massively popular in-state supermarket chain that has a very loyal following based out of San Antonio (about 45-60 minutes from Austin). Let's say that HEB decides that they want to leverage a high caliber Texas player to promote HEB and its brand ... this could be a very profitable activity for them given how fiercely loyal Texans can be to what they support. In fact, they've done so with a Texas volleyball player. In contrast, can you see QFC driving a comparable sponsorship in Seattle? Probably not.

Regardless of if we're talking about an uber whale to drive funding (think Cuban, Cody Campbell, Uncle Phil) or leveraging Fortune 500 companies to invest in advertising campaigns with meaningful money attached, there's got to be some kind of compelling ROI to capitalize on. If that doesn't exist you're not going to get investment in this part of the country.
 
houseofpain247 said:
What ROI is there for companies to pay a kid with regional name recognition millions only for the kid to leave the region after one season? That's the problem with this whole NIL thing. The actual players with true national recognition that would justify any sort of REAL endorsement deal with meaningful value don't play at UW.

Fortune 500 companies are OUT in terms of paying NIL contracts. Why would they? It only makes sense for companies like Alaska Airlines to pay guys like Rome Odunze and Michael Penix because they were guaranteed first round picks who had ALREADY CHOSEN TO STAY at UW for their final seasons. There was zero threat that they would leave.
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BINGO

Arch Manning has a couple of national advertising spots that enable him to make significant NIL dollars ... but he's also a unique situation because of his family name/legacy and the ability to leverage family members in those spots.

For national campaigns you've got to have high-end name recognition ... as you noted that's not really the type of player that is playing at UW right now.

There's the potential room for localized campaigns but that needs to be a focal point of the companies to go after and frankly just the time suck to it can make it a low ROI option for them ... and then there's the reality of individual vs team sponsorship dollars which is a huge issue when you figure that how many on a team actually have name recognition at the start of a season? Then add in the complexity of players leaving on the regular and the inability to build your brand in a market ... it's a difficult sell.
 
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