whatshouldicareabout
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Beat Oregon! Nothing else matters
USC/UCLA Wants to Shut the Door
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Beat Oregon! Nothing else matters
So the SAT question is UCLA is to USC what Stanford is to Notre Dame - true or false?
Oregon is to Washington what Washington is to Oregon - delusional outcasts.
Washington is to Oregon
what Colin Hanks is to Chet Hanks
Booyakashaw!!
what Colin Hanks is to Chet Hanks
Booyakashaw!!
creepycoug
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If you're going on research productivity, Washington doesn't really take a back seat to too many universities, and without looking I'll risk it and say it blows Notre Dame away and might even be a click better than UCLA. Or it might not. If you go by undergraduate selectivity, which is often the conversation, then Stanford is considerably >> than all the schools mentioned, including ND. The problem with that approach is Arizona State and Arizona blow Georgetown out of the water on that measure; but the level of students at Georgetown is several flights up from what you typically encounter in Tempe or Tuscon.
Washington has become a lot tougher to get into in the last 10 or so years. Even still, the difference in UG selectivity difference between UW and Oregon is no doubt smaller than the difference between UW and Stanford. Probably UCLA too. ND has gotten to be pretty tough too and is no doubt harder to get into than UW.
Stanford
UCLA
Notre Dame
Washington
Oregon
Said another way, it would make a shitty SAT question.
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greenblood
New Fish
USC and fans always bragged about how they clean up the SoCal talent. Now they are getting their asses kicked on the recruiting trail, they took their ball and went home. What a bunch of cunts...
creepycoug
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I'll add this: I honestly, objectively, think UW is a better fit in the Big 10 than Oregon. Not so much just for the academics; the B10 has more than its share of academic middle weights. I probably have a bias because I grew up watching UW playing Michigan and Iowa in Rose Bowls, not Oregon. I have no scientific basis for the view. More of a feel and an optic kind of thing. The Big 10 is old and stodgy and probably were the first people to use the term "blue blood" to describe their programs. UW, too, takes itself VERY seriously and has a very high opinion of itself. It's in the culture. How else does an idiot like Lake (who went to fucking Eastern) pop off? I went to school there for UG and LS and grew up around Huskies. We?'re used to looking down on programs not named USC. Historically it's been a bit of a snotty school. When we're? not good at football, we switch to academis shit talk. I think part of that is because Cuog! is the ultimate little brother all around and they begrudgingly defer to us? (because they don't have much choice). IDK. UW just feels like it fits in with the old Midwestern powers like Michigan, who also likes itself quite a lot. Stanford is the school that won't ever say "we have really high level academics" because they know everybody knows it. They get to just sit there and smirk. UW is like Michigan in that they know not everyone knows where they stand academically, so they tell you. "Dude, people turn down Ivies to go to Ross!" I've literally heard that said. You would never hear a Stanford person say something like that. It's a given.
Oregon likes itself a lot too, but it's a different feel. They have a chip on their shoulder and they know they are new money. Part of what I like about their program is they said "fuck off" to the entrenchment crowd and said "we can fucking do it too" and went out and did it while UW people were snickering at them. That kind of story, which is not a bad story, fits better somewhere else. Like the Big 12. Somewhere with a "let's talk about today" crowd. That's not the Big 10.
Oregon likes itself a lot too, but it's a different feel. They have a chip on their shoulder and they know they are new money. Part of what I like about their program is they said "fuck off" to the entrenchment crowd and said "we can fucking do it too" and went out and did it while UW people were snickering at them. That kind of story, which is not a bad story, fits better somewhere else. Like the Big 12. Somewhere with a "let's talk about today" crowd. That's not the Big 10.
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But the key is being able to watch their network
What a concept
I like the history shows. Can't wait for Big 10 legend John McKay
whatshouldicareabout
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I'm curious what Bill Walton will do
creepycoug
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whatshouldicareabout
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Kicking SC ass on the field?
If you say so
greenblood
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Kicking SC ass on the field?
If you say so
They kind of are now. Using this logic Nebraska > Oregon and Washington. When in reality Minnesota > Nebraska today.
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EwaDawg
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What is not intriguing about making the best of the Pac 12, Big 12 and (the entire) ACC a super conference?
You could get by with one football trip to the east coast and have one ACC team visit you every year. You still play the bulk of your conference games out west (within your division or sub division).
And the non revenue sports never have to travel to the east coast. Rarely past mid America.
If you don't make a move to "pick up" Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia, VT and NC now (along with six of the best B12 teams) it just doesn't end well. Particularly if we don't get an invite to the B1G.
I loathe sitting around and hoping some one else will secure my future. But if you feel comfortable doing that, well, power to you, I guess.
Kaepsknee
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Of course they don’t. No one else in the B10 does either. Even if they wouldn’t get full share. It’s just 2 more mouths to feed with teams that their core base could gaf about.
The Big10 has never had an eyeball or attendance problem. Only a championship problem.
And Oregon and Washington don’t fix that.
Kaepsknee
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And @DerekJohnson, who is this sackless wonder who follows me all over the place here.
https://hardcorehusky.com/home/unauthorized