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I can't wait to figure out what scrub teams the PAC-12 will recruit into the conference. Any predictions?
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If UW and Oregon manage to get a pity invite to the B1G the PAC will fold or become the new and improved MWC by bringing in the top-4 teams from the MWC. Hopefully the LA schools signaled this was coming to UW prior to it leaking or that's a really bad sign.
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I could see Oregon, but the second school would come out of Big 12. Baylor, Oklahoma State, maybe even Iowa State. They're not going to ask Washington to join. There not going to admit a team with a program and a fanbase in a death spiral. Even Utah probably has a better chance of getting in than Washington. We ain't such a big fish anymore.

On the flip side, if Oregon doesn't get an invite because of us, that'll be our biggest win over them in 20 years.
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UW has a media market. That's the only hope.
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That’s exactly the reason they would ask
 
College football is ruined. What once seemed innocent with unique fan bases is now ruined. I fear for this beautiful site as well. Ultimately if things don’t change we’re gonna have only Derek left posting items if interest and nacho telling him , “ Thanks Taft!” Ugh
 
College football isn't "dead" but it certainly is a shit show right now. I was semi on board with the NIL deal it made sense in practice. Didn't think players would hopping around teams like free agency which has turned extremely cringe. Playoff made it so bowl games didn't mean much anymore and now conferences don't really matter either. It is going to be stale as fuck though. Bama/Georgia/Ohio State/Clemson/maybe 1 random team is so fucking boring. People will always watch and support college football but it more the less just makes everything meaningless now unless you are one of the schools mentioned before.
 
Just a couple more tweaks and college football is golden
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Pretty soon, we'll have two super conferences, the NFC and AFC, and they'll set NIL caps and other regulations. 7 teams from each conference in the playoffs, and then the two top teams play in the Natty Bowl.
 
Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.
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Well said. Nike/Knight continues to poison everything that was honest and beautiful about college sports. Oregon is a draw, but their corruption sickens the ecosystem around them. Just do it.
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That's very child-like take. Very sweet.
 
Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.
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Rent free. Oregon is the only National Brand in the Pac-10.
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Define what you even mean by national brand and what it pays off for please?

Notre Dame is the only national brand that really matters and it becomes more and more of a stretch by year. BYU weirdly maybe is the second closest.

Anyway, long-term, Washington's two likely outcomes are becoming the Northwestern/Vanderbilt of a super conference or becoming some kind of weird relic in a gloried Mountain West and taking the upper decks off of Husky Stadium. Let's hope it's the first option. Oregon continues to be the Dan Bilzerian of college football basically paying chicks to hang out and take pictures with them.
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BYU? Mormons make up less than 7 million in the US. Their program is not a national brand. And ND is not the only national brand that matters, by a long shot.

And I don't think Washington's future is to be the Vandy/Northwestern of any conference. Those are private schools with single digit admission numbers. Washington is still a state school, last I checked. It might someday be a Cal, but probably not.

You ask a good question: what is a national brand? IDK, and I haven't read anything elucidating on the question in this thread. If it's the general idea that people around the country are aware of and think about you as a strong and winning program, then a lot of schools have it. If it means you can recruit from any talent base, then a lot of schools have it. If it means you have a long and storied history, even if you've sucked recently/for a while, then a lot of schools have it.

In the Washington / Oregon context, what "brand" usually means is some Duck arguing that they occupy a more prominent role as a program than they used to and some DWAG trying to make the case that they are (a) WSU south or ASU north or (b) they're a paid-for Johnny Come Lately with no national respect. IOW, two people with loaded views on the subject.
 
I can't wait to figure out what scrub teams the PAC-12 will recruit into the conference. Any predictions?
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If UW and Oregon manage to get a pity invite to the B1G the PAC will fold or become the new and improved MWC by bringing in the top-4 teams from the MWC. Hopefully the LA schools signaled this was coming to UW prior to it leaking or that's a really bad sign.
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I could see Oregon, but the second school would come out of Big 12. Baylor, Oklahoma State, maybe even Iowa State. They're not going to ask Washington to join. There not going to admit a team with a program and a fanbase in a death spiral. Even Utah probably has a better chance of getting in than Washington. We ain't such a big fish anymore.

On the flip side, if Oregon doesn't get an invite because of us, that'll be our biggest win over them in 20 years.
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UW has a media market. That's the only hope[/b].
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14th largest media market in the U.S.
TV revenue is a huge part of these moves.
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Yes, I'm sure the 14th vs. the 25th sized media market is going to be the primary driver here. Lolz.
 
Oregon has more alumni in the Bay Area and LA than Portland at this point. And gets way more viewers from the Bay Area than cal + Stanford combined.

Maybe I’m getting soft, but I feel bad for coug and beav with how this is going to shake out.
 
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