Upshaw

[dhdawg]

He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely

 

[FreeChavez]

Yet Nik fucking Stauskas was picked eighth?

Nik is also 6'6" and shot 45% from 3. I'm not saying he should be picked that high, but there is a spot for guys who can stand in the corner and nail 3's.

 

[ThomasFremont]

He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely

I met NWG's sister in Vegas randomly. I don't remember which casino she was working at, but I was wearing UW gear (I'm cool like that) and she said her brother played on the UW bball team. According to her, he almost left for the draft last year. I think he's gone ASAP.

 

[FreeChavez]

He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely

I met NWG's sister in Vegas randomly. I don't remember which casino she was working at, but I was wearing UW gear (I'm cool like that) and she said her brother played on the UW bball team. According to her, he almost left for the draft last year. I think he's gone ASAP.

Points for trolling waitresses in vegas.........

 

[RoadDawg55]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

 

[ThomasFremont]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

 

[RoadDawg55]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

Those are always really accurate.

 

[ThomasFremont]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

Those are always really accurate.

I get what you're saying. But isn't it odd that literally zero mock drafts include him, and yet here you are proclaiming him a 1st round pick? As dnc said, he's not even in Chad Ford's top 100 prospects. You can blame that on media bias or lack of exposure if you want. But surely someone, somewhere, would have him on a list. I guess you're that special someone. I'd recommend taking off the purple tinted glasses.

Just enjoy his time at UW. He is playing well and leading this team.

 

[FreeChavez]

It's pretty doogish to say that our guy is a lock for the 1st round just b/c he's good in college. Guys can be built for different levels and NWG appears to be a guy who can be very successful in college, but the nba? Really, go through rosters in the nba and tell me he'd be competing against night in and night out.

rondo/lawson/wall/paul/curry/lowry/teague/dwill/collison/jennings/lillard/bledsoe/TW/walker/parker/irving/IT/burke/jrue

I love NWG just as much as any other husky, but i can't say he's betting out any of those guys for a spot in the league.

If i'm drafting a PG in the 1st round I expect him to be able to play. I just don't see that with NWG.

He's done an amazing job of proving everyone wrong though so far.

 

[RoadDawg55]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

Those are always really accurate.

I get what you're saying. But isn't it odd that literally zero mock drafts include him, and yet here you are proclaiming him a 1st round pick? As dnc said, he's not even in Chad Ford's top 100 prospects. You can blame that on media bias or lack of exposure if you want. But surely someone, somewhere, would have him on a list. I guess you're that special someone. I'd recommend taking off the purple tinted glasses.

Just enjoy his time at UW. He is playing well and leading this team.

None of the lists have NWG coming out after this year. He will go up as the season goes on and UW gets recognized for hopefully being a good team. If he was on Kentucky, Duke, or Syracuse do to you think he still wouldn't be ranked? Same thing if he was ranked a 5 star player out of high school. That's what these mock drafts are mostly based on.

I'm not sure he's a first rounder. I never have been. He will play in the NBA though and will get picked. I could go through those mock drafts and find a lot of player nowhere near as good as Goss. I'll start with the Harrison twins at Kentucky. The only other UW player that I cared about where he was drafted was Isaiah. He should have been picked a round higher.

 

[ThomasFremont]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

Those are always really accurate.

I get what you're saying. But isn't it odd that literally zero mock drafts include him, and yet here you are proclaiming him a 1st round pick? As dnc said, he's not even in Chad Ford's top 100 prospects. You can blame that on media bias or lack of exposure if you want. But surely someone, somewhere, would have him on a list. I guess you're that special someone. I'd recommend taking off the purple tinted glasses.

Just enjoy his time at UW. He is playing well and leading this team.

None of the lists have NWG coming out after this year. He will go up as the season goes on and UW gets recognized for hopefully being a good team. If he was on Kentucky, Duke, or Syracuse do to you think he still wouldn't be ranked? Same thing if he was ranked a 5 star player out of high school. That's what these mock drafts are mostly based on.

I'm not sure he's a first rounder. I never have been. He will play in the NBA though and will get picked. I could go through those mock drafts and find a lot of player nowhere near as good as Goss. I'll start with the Harrison twins at Kentucky. The only other UW player that I cared about where he was drafted was Isaiah. He should have been picked a round higher.

So if you are not gonna be a 1st rounder, what is the advantage of entering the draft early, as NWG is possibly looking to do? It's not like he is turning down guaranteed lottery pick money.

My contention all along has been that he should be a 4 year college player.

 

[Doogles]

NWG will be a late first/second round pick. He will have a better career than most the guys picked ahead of him too.

He's not even listed as a 2nd round pick in any mock drafts currently.

Those are always really accurate.

I get what you're saying. But isn't it odd that literally zero mock drafts include him, and yet here you are proclaiming him a 1st round pick? As dnc said, he's not even in Chad Ford's top 100 prospects. You can blame that on media bias or lack of exposure if you want. But surely someone, somewhere, would have him on a list. I guess you're that special someone. I'd recommend taking off the purple tinted glasses.

Just enjoy his time at UW. He is playing well and leading this team.

None of the lists have NWG coming out after this year. He will go up as the season goes on and UW gets recognized for hopefully being a good team. If he was on Kentucky, Duke, or Syracuse do to you think he still wouldn't be ranked? Same thing if he was ranked a 5 star player out of high school. That's what these mock drafts are mostly based on.

I'm not sure he's a first rounder. I never have been. He will play in the NBA though and will get picked. I could go through those mock drafts and find a lot of player nowhere near as good as Goss. I'll start with the Harrison twins at Kentucky. The only other UW player that I cared about where he was drafted was Isaiah. He should have been picked a round higher.

So if you are not gonna be a 1st rounder, what is the advantage of entering the draft early, as NWG is possibly looking to do? It's not like he is turning down guaranteed lottery pick money.

My contention all along has been that he should be a 4 year college player.

Kids don't do that anymore. College basketball has been reduced to the point where it's seen as a slight to your game if you're still in school as an upperclassmen. The AAU circuit breeds the new age athlete into having 1 mindset, get in the league or bust. Once you can sniff it, you're gone.

Goss is exactly what you'd expect out of a non-bust McDs All-American, 1-2 years of solid, exciting play that leaves you wondering 'what if' when he bolts to the next level.

 

[SonnyShackelford]

He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely

I met NWG's sister in Vegas randomly. I don't remember which casino she was working at, but I was wearing UW gear (I'm cool like that) and she said her brother played on the UW bball team. According to her, he almost left for the draft last year. I think he's gone ASAP.

Pics?

 

[ThomasFremont]

He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely

I met NWG's sister in Vegas randomly. I don't remember which casino she was working at, but I was wearing UW gear (I'm cool like that) and she said her brother played on the UW bball team. According to her, he almost left for the draft last year. I think he's gone ASAP.

Pics?

Nope. Too drunk.

 

[RoadDawg55]

@ThomasFremont, I looked up where Upshaw and NWG are predicted to go. DraftExpress has NWG going 33 in 2016. He's ranked as the #15 sophomore in the country.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nigel-Williams-Goss-7093/

Upshaw is predicted at #48 in the 2015 draft by nbadraft.net. Once more people are aware of him and he gets into the process, that will rapidly rise. He's ranked the #23 sophomore by draftexpress.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/robert-upshaw

I think both guys are underrated because they play for Washington. That's not purple-tinted glasses, but a reality. Where was Brandon Roy's ranked in December of his senior year? Terrence Ross went way higher than expected. How often are these guys from these sites watching UW? I look through the 2015 mock draft and Upshaw is better than a ton of guys listed before him.

 

[GreenRiverGatorz]

Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.

I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.

When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?

Wilcox is an elite shooter. NWG isn't.

Wilcox has more size.

Wilcox has more athleticism.

And Wilcox went 28th. Barely a 1st rounder.

NWG isn't a 1st rounder as is.

NWG is much more athletic than Wilcox. They also play totally different positions.

 

[ThomasFremont]

Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.

I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.

When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?

Wilcox is an elite shooter. NWG isn't.

Wilcox has more size.

Wilcox has more athleticism.

And Wilcox went 28th. Barely a 1st rounder.

NWG isn't a 1st rounder as is.

NWG is much more athletic than Wilcox. They also play totally different positions.

Based on what?

 

[Doogles]

Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.

I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.

When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?

Wilcox is an elite shooter. NWG isn't.

Wilcox has more size.

Wilcox has more athleticism.

And Wilcox went 28th. Barely a 1st rounder.

NWG isn't a 1st rounder as is.

NWG is much more athletic than Wilcox. They also play totally different positions.

He's not. They did testing when T-Ross was on the team and I believe Wilcox actually beat him in a few of the jumping categories. For whatever reason his ability to jump and run has never been incorporated into his game, but his numbers are NBA elite.

I haven't seen numbers on Goss, so he has a window to prove me wrong, but I highly doubt he has the ability to compete with T-ross the way wilcox did.

 

[FreeChavez]

Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.

I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.

When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?

Wilcox is an elite shooter. NWG isn't.

Wilcox has more size.

Wilcox has more athleticism.

And Wilcox went 28th. Barely a 1st rounder.

NWG isn't a 1st rounder as is.

NWG is much more athletic than Wilcox. They also play totally different positions.

You're seriously high if you're trying to compare NWG to wilcox. Wilcox is twice the athlete(in vert and quickness) than NWG is, however NWG has "the thing" that you can't teach or project. He has a knack for being a leader where CJ wasn't. He has the ability to do more with less, where as I think CJ always did less with more.

 

[FreeChavez]

I think both guys are underrated because they play for Washington. That's not purple-tinted glasses, but a reality. Where was Brandon Roy's ranked in December of his senior year? Terrence Ross went way higher than expected. How often are these guys from these sites watching UW? I look through the 2015 mock draft and Upshaw is better than a ton of guys listed before him.

While I agree players who don't play on elite teams may suffer slightly in rankings, a lot of UW players have shot that theory down by their draft position.

Ross and Roy were pretty big freaks of nature for their size and abilities. Roy was essentially a scoring PG who was huge and had sneaky bounce even with knee problems.

I do believe upshaw is going to go up the ranks providing he stays in good standing, but Upshaw's rank may be do in part to his history and the "risk" of adding him. Whether or not smoking weed is fair to be dinged in a large manner is not really debatable b/c we don't draft guys. I think with a good season upshaw will be a first rounder. Conversely, I don't think NWG can play himself into the first round unless it somehow is done at the combine or pro workouts and punking other players. I don't think his game play this season will do jack to change many's minds.