UCSB Shooting...

[d2d]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

And for those who like to parse Constitutional language, I ask which phrase appears first in the Constitution/Bill of Rights:
"... Separation of church and state..."
- or -
"... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed..."

OH OH, I KNOW THIS ONE...

The First Amendment doesn't say anything about separation of Church and State. Here it is...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The Second Amendment is about tyranny, not hunting. Might I be defending myself against a "well regulated militia" (armed by the State) some day?

It's happened before, right after the King of England ordered civilians to surrender their weapons.

So much for Gun-Free-Zones. History is such a Muther Fucker.

 

[d2d]

The Democrat Solution...

 

[MikeDamone]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

 

[RoadDawg55]

If only those sorority girls and his roommates had a .45 attached to their hip. I never go anywhere without my 1911.

 

[CuntWaffle]

Can we start talking about knife and vehicle regulation too? Just as many died by the blade as the chamber in this incident and a bunch of people were injured getting hit by the vehicle.

 

[Fire_Marshall_Bill]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

 

[[Deleted User]]

Can we start talking about knife and vehicle regulation too? Just as many died by the blade as the chamber in this incident and a bunch of people were injured getting hit by the vehicle.

Can't we just start talking X's and O's ?!!

 

[MikeDamone]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

 

[sarktastic]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

... on the street, from your lathe, or from the store?

 

[MikeDamone]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

 

[sarktastic]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find out

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

 

[MikeDamone]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find out

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Finally...

 

[CuntWaffle]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find out

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Yea but still.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

Never said it did, I guess I missed something...

 

[MikeDamone]

I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.

I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.

Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.

HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.

Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)

It needs to be more difficult to get guns.

Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?

Never said it did, I guess I missed something...

You said "it does have to do with gun laws". I guess I assumed you were responding to the topic that was being discussed.

 

[priapism]

I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.

One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.

One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB.

Legalizing drugs and prostitution are long term solutions for a lot of this cuntry's problems...

 

[MikeDamone]

I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.

One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB.

It's not even 20 - 100k. It's less tha 10k. A large % of those are over drugs and/or are gang related.

 

[HuskyJW]

LOL...like those bitches could handle a .45

If only those sorority girls and his roommates had a .45 attached to their hip. I never go anywhere without my 1911.