Trump tariffs ruled illegal

get the fuck out of here…. no amount of smoke and hand waving gets rid of your cult leader's tariffs… which alone are bad enough, but by all non propaganda accounts (I mean from real economists and actual surveys) people view the economy in a downward motion now, all thanks to your idiotic president.
 
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get the fuck out of here…. no amount of smoke and hand waving gets rid of your cult leader's tariffs… which alone are bad enough, but by all non propaganda accounts (I mean from real economists and actual surveys) people view the economy in a downward motion now, all thanks to your idiotic president.
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It’s a common reaction to meltdown after your experts have been wrong. Maybe they will make a Larry Summers bobblehead to cheer you up.
 
Bob_C said:
AOG said:
get the fuck out of here…. no amount of smoke and hand waving gets rid of your cult leader's tariffs… which alone are bad enough, but by all non propaganda accounts (I mean from real economists and actual surveys) people view the economy in a downward motion now, all thanks to your idiotic president.
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It’s a common reaction to meltdown after your experts have been wrong. Maybe they will make a Larry Summers bobblehead to cheer you up.
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Even just the specter of tariffs, suspended or whatever, puts a damper on investment everywhere. Apparently they didn't hear the good news about how elasticity will save the economy from recession.
 
Investment is rolling into the US at record pace. What the fuck are you talking about?
 
The reports I read say executives are waiting to see what happens. They don't want to commit when the system in is chaos. There is some investment, yes, I read about, but the chill is on.
 
AOG said:
The reports I read say executives are waiting to see what happens. They don't want to commit when the system in is chaos. There is some investment, yes, I read about, but the chill is on.
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OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
 
AOG said:
OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
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Now do the 167 countries that charge tariffs on U.S. goods. I'll wait! Turnabout is fair play!
 
Sledog said:
AOG said:
OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
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Now do the 167 countries that charge tariffs on U.S. goods. I'll wait! Turnabout is fair play!
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I haven't seen a damn thing from you as far as a report. The point of this is that tariffs have for most of this century not been a big factor. They are used especially for specific products and specific countries. But not to just tariff the fuck out of the world and pass the burden on to US citizens. The wise way to use tariffs is selectively and with care, judiciously not with a sledgehammer.
 
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Sledog said:
AOG said:
OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
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Now do the 167 countries that charge tariffs on U.S. goods. I'll wait! Turnabout is fair play!
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I haven't seen a damn thing from you as far as a report. The point of this is that tariffs have for most of this century not been a big factor. They are used especially for specific products and specific countries. But not to just tariff the fuck out of the world and pass the burden on to US citizens. The wise way to use tariffs is selectively and with care, judiciously not with a sledgehammer.
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I’m here to be nice. There is a lot of other stuff besides tariffs that act as barriers to trade, especially with Europe that aren’t apparent in the rates. If you have something to sell there that has a local producer/competition, good luck getting it in and making money off of it.
 
AOG said:
Sledog said:
AOG said:
OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
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Now do the 167 countries that charge tariffs on U.S. goods. I'll wait! Turnabout is fair play!
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I haven't seen a damn thing from you as far as a report. The point of this is that tariffs have for most of this century not been a big factor. They are used especially for specific products and specific countries. But not to just tariff the fuck out of the world and pass the burden on to US citizens. The wise way to use tariffs is selectively and with care, judiciously not with a sledgehammer.
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Dodge and weave wimpster, dodge and weave!
 
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AOG said:
Sledog said:
AOG said:
OK I studied tariff trends over the last 25 years. True, foreign tariffs are generally higher and vary place to place. However until Trump's first term all tariffs were basically pretty low. Our imports tariffs were virtually nonexistent creating (to no surprise) a lot of low priced goods. Yes, there were exceptions and negotiations brought a lot of the tariffs down. It was until Trump's first term that tariffs started to be a major factor. And that was nothing compared with the onslaught of chaos that he's brought to the world now.
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Now do the 167 countries that charge tariffs on U.S. goods. I'll wait! Turnabout is fair play!
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I haven't seen a damn thing from you as far as a report. The point of this is that tariffs have for most of this century not been a big factor. They are used especially for specific products and specific countries. But not to just tariff the fuck out of the world and pass the burden on to US citizens. The wise way to use tariffs is selectively and with care, judiciously not with a sledgehammer.
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Dodge and weave wimpster, dodge and weave!
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Like I said, I haven't seen a thing from you. Prepare a report to support your argument. I already conceded that foreign tariff rates were generally more than ours. But historically, the rates were still in general pretty low all around.
 
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