Top 25 College Football Coaches Since 2000

[PurpleThrobber]

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Chip Kelly at 24? JTFC that’s some bull shit.

That and Lincoln Riley?!? Doing less with more.

 

[PurpleThrobber]

Whittingham seems like a mostly JAG coach to me. Was in a great spot at Utah and went 65-48 in Pac-12 play while being in the soft South Division. What Leach was able to do at WSU is more impressive to me, even if he never won a division.

Leach's problem was Cuog couldn't beat Dwag.
And then he'd fuck up one other game along the way just being stubborn.

 

[YellowSnow]

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Chip Kelly at 24? JTFC that’s some bull shit.

That and Lincoln Riley?!? Doing less with more.

Chip 1.0 was fucking legit. Way more so than Lincoln.

 

[ntxduck]

Pete was the fucking man at usc. Like @RaceBannon mentioned the speed in which he built that machine was crazy.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Chip Kelly at 24? JTFC that’s some bull shit.

You've become a doog moron.

I thought he should be top 10 you ding Dong @dtd . Read my post again.

Kelly is very hard to categorize. One of the best four-year runs you could ever imagine without winning a title (as our brilliant DTD pointed out), but then he came back and was incredibly below average and that has to be factored in, especially since it wasn't like a coming back at 75 thing either. What he did was certainly more impressive than anything Day has done, including winning a national title where he lost at home to a Michigan team UW beat.

 

[ntxduck]

Chip Kelly at 24? JTFC that’s some bull shit.

You've become a doog moron.

I thought he should be top 10 you ding Dong @dtd . Read my post again.

Kelly is very hard to categorize. One of the best four-year runs you could ever imagine without winning a title (as our brilliant DTD pointed out), but then he came back and was incredibly below average and that has to be factored in, especially since it wasn't like a coming back at 75 thing either. What he did was certainly more impressive than anything Day has done, including winning a national title where he lost at home to a Michigan team UW beat.

day also doesn’t win the title last year without chip as OC imho.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Whittingham seems like a mostly JAG coach to me. Was in a great spot at Utah and went 65-48 in Pac-12 play while being in the soft South Division. What Leach was able to do at WSU is more impressive to me, even if he never won a division.

Leach's problem was Cuog couldn't beat Dwag.
And then he'd fuck up one other game along the way just being stubborn.

The Deathrow DBs were Leach's worst matchup nightmare. Then he also earned a lot of respect from me by seeming to have the mindset that we're gonna win 9+ games every year and not make our season the Apple Cup and go 4-8. Sad loser Coug fans I know admitted towards the end they would have rather had the 4-8 but Apple Cup wins over actually being relevant and going to real bowl games.

 

[whlinder]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

 

[creepycoug]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.

 

[ntxduck]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.

chip wasn’t coach in 2014 vs osu. He’d been gone for 2 years. His 2012 team was his best (and probably the best in Oregon history), but got tripped up by the Stanford team that was built to beat Oregon.

 

[EwaDawg]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.

that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Jimmy Lake really wanted to do, he just wasn't able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that.
Agreed Mario = Jimmy.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

I don't think someone wanting to have a dominant run game means they're not dumb. Mario aint in the stratosphere of Urb and that team also had guys that were for several years considered one of the best RBs, WRs, and DEs in the NFL. I guess that night was in a way the beginning of the end for Helfrich. Chipper was in the NFL at that point, doing better than people remember.

 

[ntxduck]

I don't think someone wanting to have a dominant run game means they're not dumb. Mario aint in the stratosphere of Urb and that team also had guys that were for several years considered one of the best RBs, WRs, and DEs in the NFL. I guess that night was in a way the beginning of the end for Helfrich. Chipper was in the NFL at that point, doing better than people remember.

the beginning of the end for helf was 2013, his first year. He inherited a strong core group of chip’s guys, but the team was incredibly sloppy and played with a lack of discipline that had been absent since the Belotti days. I remember leaving the Tennessee game in 2013 (a 59-14 win) disappointed with how sloppy overall things looked. The team was just so talented/had a bunch of veterans that it didn’t matter. But it was pretty clear just 2-3 games in to the helf era that once those chip guys left and only the helf guys remained, things were going to completely fall apart.

 

[creepycoug]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.

that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Jimmy Lake really wanted to do, he just wasn't able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that.
Agreed Mario = Jimmy.

That's actually not a bad comparison. Each is good at coaching a position and produced some good NFL players in those positions and each does dumb things on the sidelines. The bloom is off the rose for me with Mario, so believe me when I say there's no bias here when I say that Jimmy is probably more a trainwreck than is Mario. Cristo has done a pretty decent job of getting some basic order in the house when he has shown up to cluster fuck situations, while Jimmy was handed the keys to at least a nice BMW (but not a Ferrari) and managed to turn it into a Toyota Tercel. Jimmy also says way more stupid shit. In short, I'd say Mario has better judgment as a person (but probably not as a coach).

I agree, though. They share a lot in common.

 

[creepycoug]

I don't think someone wanting to have a dominant run game means they're not dumb. Mario aint in the stratosphere of Urb and that team also had guys that were for several years considered one of the best RBs, WRs, and DEs in the NFL. I guess that night was in a way the beginning of the end for Helfrich. Chipper was in the NFL at that point, doing better than people remember.

That's right. I always forget Chip wasn't there for that. I don't think it would have mattered.
No, I don't think it's dumb either. It's just a passing comment. Yes, I agree that Mario is not in Urb's league on any measure, particularly getting his players to play. Mario has failed at that time and time again. What I mean is the big juggernaut running games that are so dominant you can shout your play across the LOS before the snap and it doesn't matter. Think Jimmy Johnson and that Dallas Cowboys O line and run game. That's how I think of the 2014 Bucs. You're just never going to beat those teams unless you can do it too.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

I don't think someone wanting to have a dominant run game means they're not dumb. Mario aint in the stratosphere of Urb and that team also had guys that were for several years considered one of the best RBs, WRs, and DEs in the NFL. I guess that night was in a way the beginning of the end for Helfrich. Chipper was in the NFL at that point, doing better than people remember.

That's right. I always forget Chip wasn't there for that. I don't think it would have mattered.
No, I don't think it's dumb either. It's just a passing comment. Yes, I agree that Mario is not in Urb's league on any measure, particularly getting his players to play. Mario has failed at that time and time again. What I mean is the big juggernaut running games that are so dominant you can shout your play across the LOS before the snap and it doesn't matter. Think Jimmy Johnson and that Dallas Cowboys O line and run game. That's how I think of the 2014 Bucs. You're just never going to beat those teams unless you can do it too.

Problem with that even schools like Georgia and Bama are running into now is because of the portal and NIL it's really hard to stack a bunch of badass OL the way you used to and it's the position where you need the most guys and depth to dominate.
I have plenty of receipts about hating Mario and thinking he's a dipshit but the gap between Jimmy and him might be as big as the gap between Mario and Urb. Jimmy fucks up Oregon if he is in Mario's shoes starting in 2017 and Mario at the very least has UW bowling in 2021.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Was listening to a local radio segment covering this and now I'm convinced that nobody can touch Pete Carrol if you factor in the time taken to achieve everything. 9 years is insane.

It's a good point of how damn impressive Carroll's run in college and pro was. I'm trying to think of who is even comparable? Harbaugh. That might be just about it.

Jimmy Johnson had a pretty good run in both. Turned the Cowboys around from a laffing stock to a dynasty.

Jimmy’s runs with Miami and Dallas were incredible. He turned Dallas around before free agency other than maybe Plan B existed.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Was listening to a local radio segment covering this and now I'm convinced that nobody can touch Pete Carrol if you factor in the time taken to achieve everything. 9 years is insane.

It's a good point of how damn impressive Carroll's run in college and pro was. I'm trying to think of who is even comparable? Harbaugh. That might be just about it.

Jimmy Johnson had a pretty good run in both. Turned the Cowboys around from a laffing stock to a dynasty.

Jimmy’s runs with Miami and Dallas were incredible. He turned Dallas around before free agency other than maybe Plan B existed.

Plan B? Take it to the Tug

 

[EwaDawg]

I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.

This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.

that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Jimmy Lake really wanted to do, he just wasn't able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that.
Agreed Mario = Jimmy.

That's actually not a bad comparison. Each is good at coaching a position and produced some good NFL players in those positions and each does dumb things on the sidelines. The bloom is off the rose for me with Mario, so believe me when I say there's no bias here when I say that Jimmy is probably more a trainwreck than is Mario. Cristo has done a pretty decent job of getting some basic order in the house when he has shown up to cluster fuck situations, while Jimmy was handed the keys to at least a nice BMW (but not a Ferrari) and managed to turn it into a Toyota Tercel. Jimmy also says way more stupid shit. In short, I'd say Mario has better judgment as a person (but probably not as a coach).

I agree, though. They share a lot in common.

Mario »»»> Jimmy. Not close.