This is the greatest Stanford team of Mosster's life

[Mosster47]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Well they won a national title in 89, so I'm going with that one.

 

[MikeSeaver]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

You both lost to the only good teams you’ve played so far.

 

[Mosster47]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1/10-2 ND team to make yourself feel better.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

You both lost to the only good teams you’ve played so far.

The fuck does this have to do with Mosster being an idiot?

 

[MikeSeaver]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

You both lost to the only good teams you’ve played so far.

The fuck does this have to do with Mosster being an idiot?

Beats, me.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

 

[Mosster47]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

 

[SarkFanSixtyNine]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1/10-2 ND team to make yourself feel better.

mods can you flag this for abuse for me the website isnt working

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

 

[Mosster47]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

Why do you hate 1-8 in bowl games last year, two 1st round QB's leaving, the hiring of Herm Edwards and Kevin Sumlin, and a projected starting QB committing suicide?

I can think of no time when the conference was worse. The one decent OOC win will be ASU against a mediocre Sparty team in triple digit heat.

UCLA is going Owen. The Beavs are going 1-1-11. UA is finishing with 2 or 3 wins. Colorado is the favorite to win the south. etc. Utah is going to struggle to win 6 games. USC is going to win the south with a 14 year old QB.

It appeared 2016 would be the bottom of the barrel but it just keeps getting worse.

 

[TierbsHsotBoobs]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

Why do you hate 1-8 in bowl games last year, two 1st round QB's leaving, the hiring of Herm Edwards and Kevin Sumlin, and a projected starting QB committing suicide?

I can think of no time when the conference was worse. The one decent OOC win will be ASU against a mediocre Sparty team in triple digit heat.

UCLA is going Owen. The Beavs are going 1-1-11. UA is finishing with 2 or 3 wins. Colorado is the favorite to win the south. etc. Utah is going to struggle to win 6 games. USC is going to win the south with a 14 year old QB.

It appeared 2016 would be the bottom of the barrel but it just keeps getting worse.

Stanford lost to San Jose State and to Texas by 69-17 in 1999.

The conference is really bad now, but 1999 was a magical season.

 

[Mosster47]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

Why do you hate 1-8 in bowl games last year, two 1st round QB's leaving, the hiring of Herm Edwards and Kevin Sumlin, and a projected starting QB committing suicide?

I can think of no time when the conference was worse. The one decent OOC win will be ASU against a mediocre Sparty team in triple digit heat.

UCLA is going Owen. The Beavs are going 1-1-11. UA is finishing with 2 or 3 wins. Colorado is the favorite to win the south. etc. Utah is going to struggle to win 6 games. USC is going to win the south with a 14 year old QB.

It appeared 2016 would be the bottom of the barrel but it just keeps getting worse.

Stanford lost to San Jose State and to Texas by 69-17 in 1999.

The conference is really bad now, but 1999 was a magical season.

ASU lost to SDSU and USC got embarrassed by Texas. Arizona lost to the Mormos.

Given the conference took on additional dreck in 2011 thus making the conference even worse I still give the nod to present times.

 

[Mad_Son]

how can a p5 conference be this bad

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.61 82.43 ( 1) 7 82.45 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 81.10 80.12 ( 2) 7 81.15 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.73 78.36 ( 3) 10 78.49 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 78.29 78.32 ( 4) 7 78.32 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.87 77.22 ( 5) 6 77.68 ( 5)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 76.49 77.20 ( 6) 7 76.88 ( 6)
7 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 75.25 74.46 ( 7) 6 74.63 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.44 74.36 ( 8) 7 74.42 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.58 73.95 ( 9) 7 73.73 ( 9)
10 AAC EAST (A) = 68.47 67.20 ( 10) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 AAC WEST (A) = 66.62 66.89 ( 11) 6 66.81 ( 11)
12 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 65.37 66.26 ( 12) 6 65.78 ( 12)
13 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 63.75 64.61 ( 13) 5 64.19 ( 13)
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.61 63.50 ( 16) 6 63.52 ( 14)
15 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 63.28 63.89 ( 14) 6 63.44 ( 15)
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.76 63.55 ( 15) 6 63.16 ( 16)
17 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 59.18 59.73 ( 17) 10 59.50 ( 17)
18 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 58.15 57.36 ( 18) 7 57.66 ( 18)
19 MAC-EAST (A) = 58.00 57.28 ( 19) 6 57.44 ( 19)
20 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 56.92 56.74 ( 20) 7 56.81 ( 20)
21 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 52.68 52.82 ( 21) 5 52.80 ( 21)
22 COLONIAL (AA)= 50.91 51.38 ( 22) 12 50.97 ( 22)
23 BIG SKY (AA)= 50.10 50.00 ( 23) 14 50.03 ( 23)
24 SOUTHERN (AA)= 45.14 44.78 ( 24) 9 45.05 ( 24)
25 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 44.52 44.75 ( 25) 8 44.63 ( 25)
26 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.11 43.06 ( 26) 9 43.13 ( 26)
27 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 41.95 41.34 ( 27) 11 41.72 ( 27)
28 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 36.61 37.35 ( 28) 6 36.69 ( 28)
29 NORTHEAST (AA)= 32.29 31.99 ( 30) 7 32.08 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 31.69 31.48 ( 31) 10 31.55 ( 31)
31 PATRIOT (AA)= 31.53 32.92 ( 29) 7 31.98 ( 30)
32 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.38 31.38 ( 32) 2 31.38 ( 32)
33 SWAC-WEST (AA)= 30.95 29.49 ( 33) 5 30.58 ( 33)
34 SWAC-EAST (AA)= 23.57 23.67 ( 34) 5 23.59 ( 34)
35 PIONEER (AA)= 20.12 20.79 ( 35) 10 20.46 ( 35)

 

[Mad_Son]

how can a p5 conference be this bad

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.61 82.43 ( 1) 7 82.45 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 81.10 80.12 ( 2) 7 81.15 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.73 78.36 ( 3) 10 78.49 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 78.29 78.32 ( 4) 7 78.32 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.87 77.22 ( 5) 6 77.68 ( 5)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 76.49 77.20 ( 6) 7 76.88 ( 6)
7 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 75.25 74.46 ( 7) 6 74.63 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.44 74.36 ( 8) 7 74.42 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.58 73.95 ( 9) 7 73.73 ( 9)
10 AAC EAST (A) = 68.47 67.20 ( 10) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 AAC WEST (A) = 66.62 66.89 ( 11) 6 66.81 ( 11)
12 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 65.37 66.26 ( 12) 6 65.78 ( 12)
13 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 63.75 64.61 ( 13) 5 64.19 ( 13)
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.61 63.50 ( 16) 6 63.52 ( 14)
15 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 63.28 63.89 ( 14) 6 63.44 ( 15)
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.76 63.55 ( 15) 6 63.16 ( 16)
17 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 59.18 59.73 ( 17) 10 59.50 ( 17)
18 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 58.15 57.36 ( 18) 7 57.66 ( 18)
19 MAC-EAST (A) = 58.00 57.28 ( 19) 6 57.44 ( 19)
20 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 56.92 56.74 ( 20) 7 56.81 ( 20)
21 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 52.68 52.82 ( 21) 5 52.80 ( 21)
22 COLONIAL (AA)= 50.91 51.38 ( 22) 12 50.97 ( 22)
23 BIG SKY (AA)= 50.10 50.00 ( 23) 14 50.03 ( 23)
24 SOUTHERN (AA)= 45.14 44.78 ( 24) 9 45.05 ( 24)
25 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 44.52 44.75 ( 25) 8 44.63 ( 25)
26 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.11 43.06 ( 26) 9 43.13 ( 26)
27 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 41.95 41.34 ( 27) 11 41.72 ( 27)
28 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 36.61 37.35 ( 28) 6 36.69 ( 28)
29 NORTHEAST (AA)= 32.29 31.99 ( 30) 7 32.08 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 31.69 31.48 ( 31) 10 31.55 ( 31)
31 PATRIOT (AA)= 31.53 32.92 ( 29) 7 31.98 ( 30)
32 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.38 31.38 ( 32) 2 31.38 ( 32)
33 SWAC-WEST (AA)= 30.95 29.49 ( 33) 5 30.58 ( 33)
34 SWAC-EAST (AA)= 23.57 23.67 ( 34) 5 23.59 ( 34)
35 PIONEER (AA)= 20.12 20.79 ( 35) 10 20.46 ( 35)

That is to say, the P5 is clearly above non-P5 although the gap between SEC West and B1G East is about the same as the rest of the P5 and the best non-P5

 

[Mosster47]

how can a p5 conference be this bad

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.61 82.43 ( 1) 7 82.45 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 81.10 80.12 ( 2) 7 81.15 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.73 78.36 ( 3) 10 78.49 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 78.29 78.32 ( 4) 7 78.32 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.87 77.22 ( 5) 6 77.68 ( 5)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 76.49 77.20 ( 6) 7 76.88 ( 6)
7 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 75.25 74.46 ( 7) 6 74.63 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.44 74.36 ( 8) 7 74.42 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.58 73.95 ( 9) 7 73.73 ( 9)
10 AAC EAST (A) = 68.47 67.20 ( 10) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 AAC WEST (A) = 66.62 66.89 ( 11) 6 66.81 ( 11)
12 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 65.37 66.26 ( 12) 6 65.78 ( 12)
13 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 63.75 64.61 ( 13) 5 64.19 ( 13)
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.61 63.50 ( 16) 6 63.52 ( 14)
15 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 63.28 63.89 ( 14) 6 63.44 ( 15)
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.76 63.55 ( 15) 6 63.16 ( 16)
17 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 59.18 59.73 ( 17) 10 59.50 ( 17)
18 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 58.15 57.36 ( 18) 7 57.66 ( 18)
19 MAC-EAST (A) = 58.00 57.28 ( 19) 6 57.44 ( 19)
20 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 56.92 56.74 ( 20) 7 56.81 ( 20)
21 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 52.68 52.82 ( 21) 5 52.80 ( 21)
22 COLONIAL (AA)= 50.91 51.38 ( 22) 12 50.97 ( 22)
23 BIG SKY (AA)= 50.10 50.00 ( 23) 14 50.03 ( 23)
24 SOUTHERN (AA)= 45.14 44.78 ( 24) 9 45.05 ( 24)
25 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 44.52 44.75 ( 25) 8 44.63 ( 25)
26 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.11 43.06 ( 26) 9 43.13 ( 26)
27 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 41.95 41.34 ( 27) 11 41.72 ( 27)
28 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 36.61 37.35 ( 28) 6 36.69 ( 28)
29 NORTHEAST (AA)= 32.29 31.99 ( 30) 7 32.08 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 31.69 31.48 ( 31) 10 31.55 ( 31)
31 PATRIOT (AA)= 31.53 32.92 ( 29) 7 31.98 ( 30)
32 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.38 31.38 ( 32) 2 31.38 ( 32)
33 SWAC-WEST (AA)= 30.95 29.49 ( 33) 5 30.58 ( 33)
34 SWAC-EAST (AA)= 23.57 23.67 ( 34) 5 23.59 ( 34)
35 PIONEER (AA)= 20.12 20.79 ( 35) 10 20.46 ( 35)

That is to say, the P5 is clearly above non-P5 although the gap between SEC West and B1G East is about the same as the rest of the P5 and the best non-P5

The MWC would compete very well against the Pac-12, 2015-present.

 

[Mad_Son]

how can a p5 conference be this bad

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.61 82.43 ( 1) 7 82.45 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 81.10 80.12 ( 2) 7 81.15 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.73 78.36 ( 3) 10 78.49 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 78.29 78.32 ( 4) 7 78.32 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.87 77.22 ( 5) 6 77.68 ( 5)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 76.49 77.20 ( 6) 7 76.88 ( 6)
7 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 75.25 74.46 ( 7) 6 74.63 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.44 74.36 ( 8) 7 74.42 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.58 73.95 ( 9) 7 73.73 ( 9)
10 AAC EAST (A) = 68.47 67.20 ( 10) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 AAC WEST (A) = 66.62 66.89 ( 11) 6 66.81 ( 11)
12 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 65.37 66.26 ( 12) 6 65.78 ( 12)
13 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 63.75 64.61 ( 13) 5 64.19 ( 13)
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.61 63.50 ( 16) 6 63.52 ( 14)
15 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 63.28 63.89 ( 14) 6 63.44 ( 15)
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.76 63.55 ( 15) 6 63.16 ( 16)
17 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 59.18 59.73 ( 17) 10 59.50 ( 17)
18 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 58.15 57.36 ( 18) 7 57.66 ( 18)
19 MAC-EAST (A) = 58.00 57.28 ( 19) 6 57.44 ( 19)
20 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 56.92 56.74 ( 20) 7 56.81 ( 20)
21 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 52.68 52.82 ( 21) 5 52.80 ( 21)
22 COLONIAL (AA)= 50.91 51.38 ( 22) 12 50.97 ( 22)
23 BIG SKY (AA)= 50.10 50.00 ( 23) 14 50.03 ( 23)
24 SOUTHERN (AA)= 45.14 44.78 ( 24) 9 45.05 ( 24)
25 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 44.52 44.75 ( 25) 8 44.63 ( 25)
26 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.11 43.06 ( 26) 9 43.13 ( 26)
27 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 41.95 41.34 ( 27) 11 41.72 ( 27)
28 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 36.61 37.35 ( 28) 6 36.69 ( 28)
29 NORTHEAST (AA)= 32.29 31.99 ( 30) 7 32.08 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 31.69 31.48 ( 31) 10 31.55 ( 31)
31 PATRIOT (AA)= 31.53 32.92 ( 29) 7 31.98 ( 30)
32 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.38 31.38 ( 32) 2 31.38 ( 32)
33 SWAC-WEST (AA)= 30.95 29.49 ( 33) 5 30.58 ( 33)
34 SWAC-EAST (AA)= 23.57 23.67 ( 34) 5 23.59 ( 34)
35 PIONEER (AA)= 20.12 20.79 ( 35) 10 20.46 ( 35)

That is to say, the P5 is clearly above non-P5 although the gap between SEC West and B1G East is about the same as the rest of the P5 and the best non-P5

The MWC would compete very well against the Pac-12, 2015-present.

In 2015 the Pac-12 went 12-2 against the MWC...

 

[Mosster47]

how can a p5 conference be this bad

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.61 82.43 ( 1) 7 82.45 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 81.10 80.12 ( 2) 7 81.15 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.73 78.36 ( 3) 10 78.49 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 78.29 78.32 ( 4) 7 78.32 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.87 77.22 ( 5) 6 77.68 ( 5)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 76.49 77.20 ( 6) 7 76.88 ( 6)
7 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 75.25 74.46 ( 7) 6 74.63 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.44 74.36 ( 8) 7 74.42 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.58 73.95 ( 9) 7 73.73 ( 9)
10 AAC EAST (A) = 68.47 67.20 ( 10) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 AAC WEST (A) = 66.62 66.89 ( 11) 6 66.81 ( 11)
12 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 65.37 66.26 ( 12) 6 65.78 ( 12)
13 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 63.75 64.61 ( 13) 5 64.19 ( 13)
14 MAC-WEST (A) = 63.61 63.50 ( 16) 6 63.52 ( 14)
15 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 63.28 63.89 ( 14) 6 63.44 ( 15)
16 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.76 63.55 ( 15) 6 63.16 ( 16)
17 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 59.18 59.73 ( 17) 10 59.50 ( 17)
18 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 58.15 57.36 ( 18) 7 57.66 ( 18)
19 MAC-EAST (A) = 58.00 57.28 ( 19) 6 57.44 ( 19)
20 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 56.92 56.74 ( 20) 7 56.81 ( 20)
21 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 52.68 52.82 ( 21) 5 52.80 ( 21)
22 COLONIAL (AA)= 50.91 51.38 ( 22) 12 50.97 ( 22)
23 BIG SKY (AA)= 50.10 50.00 ( 23) 14 50.03 ( 23)
24 SOUTHERN (AA)= 45.14 44.78 ( 24) 9 45.05 ( 24)
25 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 44.52 44.75 ( 25) 8 44.63 ( 25)
26 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.11 43.06 ( 26) 9 43.13 ( 26)
27 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 41.95 41.34 ( 27) 11 41.72 ( 27)
28 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 36.61 37.35 ( 28) 6 36.69 ( 28)
29 NORTHEAST (AA)= 32.29 31.99 ( 30) 7 32.08 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 31.69 31.48 ( 31) 10 31.55 ( 31)
31 PATRIOT (AA)= 31.53 32.92 ( 29) 7 31.98 ( 30)
32 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.38 31.38 ( 32) 2 31.38 ( 32)
33 SWAC-WEST (AA)= 30.95 29.49 ( 33) 5 30.58 ( 33)
34 SWAC-EAST (AA)= 23.57 23.67 ( 34) 5 23.59 ( 34)
35 PIONEER (AA)= 20.12 20.79 ( 35) 10 20.46 ( 35)

That is to say, the P5 is clearly above non-P5 although the gap between SEC West and B1G East is about the same as the rest of the P5 and the best non-P5

The MWC would compete very well against the Pac-12, 2015-present.

In 2015 the Pac-12 went 12-2 against the MWC...

The Pac-12 should be undefeated against the MWC every year. There is zero fucking talent out west besides a couple metro areas.

The talent gap between those programs should be ridiculous and they're not.

 

[RaceBannon]

Stanford is now 7-3 against Notre Dame the last 10

 

[ToiletBowl1983]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

Why do you hate 1-8 in bowl games last year, two 1st round QB's leaving, the hiring of Herm Edwards and Kevin Sumlin, and a projected starting QB committing suicide?

I can think of no time when the conference was worse. The one decent OOC win will be ASU against a mediocre Sparty team in triple digit heat.

UCLA is going Owen. The Beavs are going 1-1-11. UA is finishing with 2 or 3 wins. Colorado is the favorite to win the south. etc. Utah is going to struggle to win 6 games. USC is going to win the south with a 14 year old QB.

It appeared 2016 would be the bottom of the barrel but it just keeps getting worse.

Stanford lost to San Jose State and to Texas by 69-17 in 1999.

The conference is really bad now, but 1999 was a magical season.

Agreed. The final AP poll had only 1 Pac 10 team ranked (Oregon #19)

 

[HillsboroDuck]

It absolutely is, which isn't saying much. You guys act like Stanford is a super power.

They've beaten Oregon a couple times and Iowa once.

So you didn't see the plungering Stanford took tonight?

Are we saying this Notre Dame squad wouldn't run a train on the Pac-12? Is that what we are saying?

Stanford loses all the time. You act like them losing to a legit Top 10 on the road the week after they won a Top 25 miracle game is something crazy.

Stanford has a number of teams in the past decade that wouldn't get plungered by this ND team.

Even you know that's true.

I don't know that. What year has Stanford not been plungered by someone?

They always find a way.

2015 and 2012 are the obvious ones but there are others.

I'm sure this is the greatest ND team of your life also.

Really don’t understand the giddy doogs after you lost to a VERY GOOD Auburn team.

You pretty much lost the exact same game. Except then Auburn lost.

Huh?

It's really simple. Mike and I told you that Auburn is an 8-4 team, which they are, and you lost to them.

Now you're super excited because Stanford lost to a 11-1 ND team to make yourself feel better.

YOU DON'T GET THE THREAD

Go ahead and bump this when Stanford beats CU in Santa Clara.

If Stanford wins the Pac, I'll have to consider whether this was the worst Pac of all time.

1999 is the gold standard though.

Why do you hate 1-8 in bowl games last year, two 1st round QB's leaving, the hiring of Herm Edwards and Kevin Sumlin, and a projected starting QB committing suicide?

I can think of no time when the conference was worse. The one decent OOC win will be ASU against a mediocre Sparty team in triple digit heat.

UCLA is going Owen. The Beavs are going 1-1-11. UA is finishing with 2 or 3 wins. Colorado is the favorite to win the south. etc. Utah is going to struggle to win 6 games. USC is going to win the south with a 14 year old QB.

It appeared 2016 would be the bottom of the barrel but it just keeps getting worse.

Stanford lost to San Jose State and to Texas by 69-17 in 1999.

The conference is really bad now, but 1999 was a magical season.

Agreed. The final AP poll had only 1 Pac 10 team ranked (Oregon #19)

Mosster was still catching goldfish during games in 99