The thing about Lanning

[ntxduck]

What has Orgeron done without Burrow?

Nick Saban actually made Michigan into a program. Michigan st isn’t where they are at now, without the foundation Saban made

Typically fired coaches don’t work out at new programs.

Huh? Michigan state absolutely bottomed out after Saban left…thanks to our own Bobby Williams and then John l Smith. Dantonio took over a 1 conference win team 8 years post-Saban and built that program from the ground up.

Didn’t realize how bad they got the Lambo treatment. Because it was trending up when Saban left.

Then Mario let the guy who helf’d their program run the worst special teams unit in p5 for 4 years

 

[greenblood]

What has Orgeron done without Burrow?

Nick Saban actually made Michigan into a program. Michigan st isn’t where they are at now, without the foundation Saban made

Typically fired coaches don’t work out at new programs.

Huh? Michigan state absolutely bottomed out after Saban left…thanks to our own Bobby Williams and then John l Smith. Dantonio took over a 1 conference win team 8 years post-Saban and built that program from the ground up.

Didn’t realize how bad they got the Lambo treatment. Because it was trending up when Saban left.

Then Mario let the guy who helf’d their program run the worst special teams unit in p5 for 4 years

The kick coverage was horrible, and I can't remember the last time we had a decent kickoff return since maybe Wright at USC.

 

[RatherBeBrewing]

What has Orgeron done without Burrow?

Nick Saban actually made Michigan into a program. Michigan st isn’t where they are at now, without the foundation Saban made

Typically fired coaches don’t work out at new programs.

You’re right. The only reason Ed O won that Natty is because of the talented players he brought in.

What has COACH done without PLAYER is a really dumb question when coach brought in the player, from the portal no less, after Urban Meyer didn’t start him in favor of JT Barrett.

Not defending Ed O, just saying he sucked at Ole Miss and he didn’t suck at LSU until he stopped caring. LSU takes that deal every time.

The topic at hand was retreads and Wilcocks. You said they rarely, if ever, work out. The fact is they do - at the same clip as any other coaching hire besides an in his prime future hall-of-famer. A coach with a mediocre record at a shit program can be very successful at a good program.