The program will take a step forward next year

[TheHB]

In the past, I would generally say giving a coach three years makes sense if he shows improvement in years one and two. And you can make a case that Fisch has done that. The roster is better this year than last, and the record is as well.
But I don't buy it anymore. He hasn't done enough. The ability to turn around rosters quickly is proven, and he hasn't done enough — especially when it comes to the offensive line. And his stubbornness when it comes to the offense he thinks he's trying to run, and his inability to pull off any wins of significance tells me I've seen plenty after 25 games.
That's enough.

 

[RaceBannon]

Time to bring in the guy that can win with the alleged better talent
But who can we get that's better?
When they trot that one out…
Let's find out. Its better than hoping Fisch can win 8 games and leave
Full retardation

 

[TheHB]

I thought the NFL might be the best place for Fisch, but after this season, I don't see any redeeming qualities that he would bring to an NFL team.
He's not innovative, he's a lousy play-caller, can't win big games and, despite what some people in here think, he's a shitty CEO.
I mean, what does he bring to the table that an NFL team would want?

Have you watched NFL offenses? There’s a reason I like college ball better. Fishlips needs to give up this pro style bullshit, spread the field and give his midget QB the best opportunity to be great.

I don't disagree. But what Fisch calls an NFL offense would absolutely get demolished by NFL defensive coordinators. He's nowhere near that level of a playcaller/coordinator.

 

[Bob_C]

Fisch at 8-4 in year 2 - AIDS, shit at everything
Peterlips at 6-6 in year 2 - trust the process (Race was gearing up to fire him)
Despite the wishing for the DeBoer and Cignetti path, that is the exception not the rule and year 3 is the litmus test for a coach.
Fisch either makes the playoffs in year 3, or he likely never will.
10-2 is not some sisyphean task. 6 wins to 8 to 10.
The DAWGS were competitive for 3 quarters against Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon.
Fisch needs to figure out how to score some points and get our DAWGS into the playoffs. Or he needs to go coach Mississippi State or some shit if he cant.

The point about Petersen is valid. He was 4-5 in the conference in Years 1 and 2 and blew a very winnable game against Oregon in 2015. I was hoping for a quicker turnaround but Pete had the resume to have some patience. I would have fired Pete after 2016 for anything less than 6-3 in the conference.
With Fisch heading into this season I think you would go with the following grading scale.
10-2 - A
9-3 - B
8-4 - C
7-5 - D
6-6 - F
You gotta fire Fisch for 6-6 in Year 2 and at 10-2, he's looking like the fucking Man. Instead, we're stuck him getting a C in year 2. I have significant concerns (50/50) that we'll end up needing to fire Jedd after next year. But it's reckless on so many levels to fire an 8-4 in year 2 guy. It's terrible optics for the program and the next guy could be fucking worse.

Everyone says it’s terrible optics to fire a coach who is 8-4 in year two. Not sure why we all agreed that is true. It also shows you are serious about having high expectations and big dick winners only need apply.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Fisch at 8-4 in year 2 - AIDS, shit at everything
Peterlips at 6-6 in year 2 - trust the process (Race was gearing up to fire him)
Despite the wishing for the DeBoer and Cignetti path, that is the exception not the rule and year 3 is the litmus test for a coach.
Fisch either makes the playoffs in year 3, or he likely never will.
10-2 is not some sisyphean task. 6 wins to 8 to 10.
The DAWGS were competitive for 3 quarters against Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon.
Fisch needs to figure out how to score some points and get our DAWGS into the playoffs. Or he needs to go coach Mississippi State or some shit if he cant.

The point about Petersen is valid. He was 4-5 in the conference in Years 1 and 2 and blew a very winnable game against Oregon in 2015. I was hoping for a quicker turnaround but Pete had the resume to have some patience. I would have fired Pete after 2016 for anything less than 6-3 in the conference.
With Fisch heading into this season I think you would go with the following grading scale.
10-2 - A
9-3 - B
8-4 - C
7-5 - D
6-6 - F
You gotta fire Fisch for 6-6 in Year 2 and at 10-2, he's looking like the fucking Man. Instead, we're stuck him getting a C in year 2. I have significant concerns (50/50) that we'll end up needing to fire Jedd after next year. But it's reckless on so many levels to fire an 8-4 in year 2 guy. It's terrible optics for the program and the next guy could be fucking worse.

Everyone says it’s terrible optics to fire a coach who is 8-4 in year two. Not sure why we all agreed that is true. It also shows you are serious about having high expectations and big dick winners only need apply.

It's irrelevant, he isn't getting fired at UW for 8-4 now or next year.
The real question is what record gets him shown the door next year?

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Fisch at 8-4 in year 2 - AIDS, shit at everything
Peterlips at 6-6 in year 2 - trust the process (Race was gearing up to fire him)
Despite the wishing for the DeBoer and Cignetti path, that is the exception not the rule and year 3 is the litmus test for a coach.
Fisch either makes the playoffs in year 3, or he likely never will.
10-2 is not some sisyphean task. 6 wins to 8 to 10.
The DAWGS were competitive for 3 quarters against Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon.
Fisch needs to figure out how to score some points and get our DAWGS into the playoffs. Or he needs to go coach Mississippi State or some shit if he cant.

The point about Petersen is valid. He was 4-5 in the conference in Years 1 and 2 and blew a very winnable game against Oregon in 2015. I was hoping for a quicker turnaround but Pete had the resume to have some patience. I would have fired Pete after 2016 for anything less than 6-3 in the conference.
With Fisch heading into this season I think you would go with the following grading scale.
10-2 - A
9-3 - B
8-4 - C
7-5 - D
6-6 - F
You gotta fire Fisch for 6-6 in Year 2 and at 10-2, he's looking like the fucking Man. Instead, we're stuck him getting a C in year 2. I have significant concerns (50/50) that we'll end up needing to fire Jedd after next year. But it's reckless on so many levels to fire an 8-4 in year 2 guy. It's terrible optics for the program and the next guy could be fucking worse.

Everyone says it’s terrible optics to fire a coach who is 8-4 in year two. Not sure why we all agreed that is true. It also shows you are serious about having high expectations and big dick winners only need apply.

It's irrelevant, he isn't getting fired at UW for 8-4 now or next year.
The real question is what record gets him shown the door next year?

Probably 6-6 or worse.
Maaaaybe 7-5.
I dont think the athletic department could live with the dwindling enthusiasm and money those records would bring.

 

[TheHB]

6-6 is more realistic than 10-2.
Just saying.

 

[YellowSnow]

Fisch at 8-4 in year 2 - AIDS, shit at everything
Peterlips at 6-6 in year 2 - trust the process (Race was gearing up to fire him)
Despite the wishing for the DeBoer and Cignetti path, that is the exception not the rule and year 3 is the litmus test for a coach.
Fisch either makes the playoffs in year 3, or he likely never will.
10-2 is not some sisyphean task. 6 wins to 8 to 10.
The DAWGS were competitive for 3 quarters against Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon.
Fisch needs to figure out how to score some points and get our DAWGS into the playoffs. Or he needs to go coach Mississippi State or some shit if he cant.

The point about Petersen is valid. He was 4-5 in the conference in Years 1 and 2 and blew a very winnable game against Oregon in 2015. I was hoping for a quicker turnaround but Pete had the resume to have some patience. I would have fired Pete after 2016 for anything less than 6-3 in the conference.
With Fisch heading into this season I think you would go with the following grading scale.
10-2 - A
9-3 - B
8-4 - C
7-5 - D
6-6 - F
You gotta fire Fisch for 6-6 in Year 2 and at 10-2, he's looking like the fucking Man. Instead, we're stuck him getting a C in year 2. I have significant concerns (50/50) that we'll end up needing to fire Jedd after next year. But it's reckless on so many levels to fire an 8-4 in year 2 guy. It's terrible optics for the program and the next guy could be fucking worse.

Everyone says it’s terrible optics to fire a coach who is 8-4 in year two. Not sure why we all agreed that is true. It also shows you are serious about having high expectations and big dick winners only need apply.

If you fire Jedd now for 8-4, we're on our 5th HC in an 8 year span.
Call me old fashioned, but that's not a great look.

 

[RaceBannon]

Neither is the product on the field

 

[Bob_C]

Optics are for losers.

 

[YellowSnow]

Optics are for losers.

I've won a lot, just not at golf.

 

[YellowSnow]

Neither is the product on the field

We're not talking about giving Ty or Sark 4 or 5 years here.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

Playoff or fired in year 3 doesnt cut it anymore.
Washington has a floor of 11-2 now.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I thought the NFL might be the best place for Fisch, but after this season, I don't see any redeeming qualities that he would bring to an NFL team.
He's not innovative, he's a lousy play-caller, can't win big games and, despite what some people in here think, he's a shitty CEO.
I mean, what does he bring to the table that an NFL team would want?

Have you watched NFL offenses? There’s a reason I like college ball better. Fishlips needs to give up this pro style bullshit, spread the field and give his midget QB the best opportunity to be great.

I don't disagree. But what Fisch calls an NFL offense would absolutely get demolished by NFL defensive coordinators. He's nowhere near that level of a playcaller/coordinator.

I agree about Fisch in the NFL, but the offenses are all the same in college and the pros.

Nobody in college football is winning big with a gimmick offense anymore. Those days are gone. The players are better and the good teams don’t have glaring weaknesses like they used to because youth and depth problems get filled by the portal.

 

[YellowSnow]

Playoff or fired in year 3 doesnt cut it anymore.
Washington has a floor of 11-2 now.

Post of the week. Lol.

 

[RaceBannon]

Neither is the product on the field

We're not talking about giving Ty or Sark 4 or 5 years here.

You just need more time to start asking for more time
If the premise is flawed, which it is, the plan will fail
UW isn't here to be Judd's training ground for a NFL job that will never happen
If we aren't looking for the exception then shut it down

 

[RaceBannon]

And 11-2 is the floor
Stop making excuses for losers

 

[DoogmanRefund]

I thought the NFL might be the best place for Fisch, but after this season, I don't see any redeeming qualities that he would bring to an NFL team.
He's not innovative, he's a lousy play-caller, can't win big games and, despite what some people in here think, he's a shitty CEO.
I mean, what does he bring to the table that an NFL team would want?

Have you watched NFL offenses? There’s a reason I like college ball better. Fishlips needs to give up this pro style bullshit, spread the field and give his midget QB the best opportunity to be great.

I don't disagree. But what Fisch calls an NFL offense would absolutely get demolished by NFL defensive coordinators. He's nowhere near that level of a playcaller/coordinator.

I agree about Fisch in the NFL, but the offenses are all the same in college and the pros.

Nobody in college football is winning big with a gimmick offense anymore. Those days are gone. The players are better and the good teams don’t have glaring weaknesses like they used to because youth and depth problems get filled by the portal.

I hate that this is true. One of the many reasons college was always so much more fun. Feels like “upsets” will continue to be talented badly coached teams like Florida beating talented, slightly less badly coached teams like Texas. I hate NFL light. The Cardinals probably shouldn’t beat the Rams, but it’s not exactly shocking when it happens.

 

[Canadawg]

I have a hard time feeling strongly about Fisch when his QB threw dirt balls in every loss. Not saying he isn't responsible in part for those dirt balls but I just feel like the vision on how good he is is murky

 

[haie]

I dunno man. All the coaches that try to boast about NFL end up sucking in college, and the no name coaches with no name players kicks ass all the time.
DeBoer was accused of just being an air raid guy, even some NFL X guys claimed he relied on overwhelmingly high school concepts.
What was Eck's offense again? Just be a fat guy and high five your lineman as they run over a powder blue B1G team?
G6 serial killer tomorrow please.