The Huskies are in the playoff race

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
WoolleyDoog said:
Here's the positioning I feel like Judd has based on the most realistic outcomes this month.
8-4 (lose to Oregon, probably UCLA, maybe Wiscy) - Doesn't deserve a raise/extension from UW. Might try to position the UCLA job to get one. Not sure what to do there. UCLA would still take him, probably.
9-3 (lose to Oregon) - Doesn't deserve a raise/extension, but agent can probably weasel UW into one. UCLA would take him.
10-2 - UW has to buck up. Would think Florida and any of the jobs open right now not called LSU could offer him.
I'd take a road playoff game, especially with the possibility you can get some paper tiger like a Big 12 team. I personally watched WSU basically play Ole Miss even in Oxford. Outside of Ohio State, Indiana, and possibly Bama, I'm not really scared of any of the teams around there, especially if UW can show they can beat Oregon.
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I think almost all Little 12 teams are very beatable, except BYU, in Provo.

With top ten talent and depth, sure.

This team got manhandled by a not elite Michigan team.
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UW didn't get manhandled by UM at all

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Canadawg said:
I have a hard time with the monopoly money theory. Every program is begging the fans for NIL, trying to fill seats, and bending over backwards for TV revenue. I can't compute that with the money not mattering and with that in mind I have to wonder if these insane buyouts and poor monetary choices will bite schools when it comes to buying players or hiring the next HC
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Many of these buyouts are coming from private commitments erasing them from the Athletic Depts … without that money flowing in you're likely not getting the turnover. In many of these instances the changes are coming not because the institution or athletic department has decided its time to move on but because the most influential of boosters are making those decisions.
As for the NIL money, the fundamental issue with that is the mix between NIL providing some kind of return to the parties "investing" in the players and those deals actually passing the sniff test with the Deloitte clearing process … of course I think we all know that there's a lot of stuff that is still happening under the table.
 
For any public institution, you can reference the Knight Commission (https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/) to dig into the revenues of each Athletic Department.
Since there is this idea around here that UW didn't do enough to keep DeBoer and that they should have fought harder against whatever offer that Alabama put on the table, it probably makes sense to look at the Athletic Department revenues for each school over the last 3 reported years (2022 to 2024) …
Alabama Athletic Department Revenue:
Washington Athletic Department Revenue:
What are the key takeaways:
  • Prior to moving to the Big10, Alabama had annual Athletic Department revenues of $50-60M more annually than UW (2022-2023)

  • UW was able to narrow that gap to around $45M in 2024 helped by an almost $20M increase in "Other Revenue" that I believe was tied to pulling forward some future revenue from the Big10 (will be able to be more visible the 1-time nature of this when the 2025 numbers become available)

  • UW trails Alabama from a revenue perspective in 2 critical areas:

  • UW is still receiving material institutional support post-COVID to the tune of $10M+ … this revenue is only because of the overall deficit that the Athletic Department is in post-COVID and I believe that a lot of this is to cover the debt burden of Husky Stadium

  • The combination of Ticket Sales & Corporate Sponsorships is relatively consistent for UW and Alabama
It's not complete doom and gloom for the UW Athletic Department. These numbers should be fairly illustrative as to why the move to the Big10 was important for UW and how as UW moves into receiving a full share of Big10 revenue that that closes one of the major gaps vs a blue blood like Alabama. But the area that we lack compared to larger athletic departments is with respect to our donors and how much money we bring in (this in theory would also have implications to NIL as well).
As it pertains to DeBoer, this provides some actual data as to the relative resources of the schools involved and why just saying "UW should have paid more" is probably not as accurate of a response as you'd like it to be.
 
Canadawg said:
Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
WoolleyDoog said:
Here's the positioning I feel like Judd has based on the most realistic outcomes this month.
8-4 (lose to Oregon, probably UCLA, maybe Wiscy) - Doesn't deserve a raise/extension from UW. Might try to position the UCLA job to get one. Not sure what to do there. UCLA would still take him, probably.
9-3 (lose to Oregon) - Doesn't deserve a raise/extension, but agent can probably weasel UW into one. UCLA would take him.
10-2 - UW has to buck up. Would think Florida and any of the jobs open right now not called LSU could offer him.
I'd take a road playoff game, especially with the possibility you can get some paper tiger like a Big 12 team. I personally watched WSU basically play Ole Miss even in Oxford. Outside of Ohio State, Indiana, and possibly Bama, I'm not really scared of any of the teams around there, especially if UW can show they can beat Oregon.
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I think almost all Little 12 teams are very beatable, except BYU, in Provo.

With top ten talent and depth, sure.

This team got manhandled by a not elite Michigan team.
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UW didn't get manhandled by UM at all

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nope. They stepped on their dick
 
Tequilla said:
For any public institution, you can reference the Knight Commission (https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/) to dig into the revenues of each Athletic Department.
Since there is this idea around here that UW didn't do enough to keep DeBoer and that they should have fought harder against whatever offer that Alabama put on the table, it probably makes sense to look at the Athletic Department revenues for each school over the last 3 reported years (2022 to 2024) …
Alabama Athletic Department Revenue:
Washington Athletic Department Revenue:
What are the key takeaways:

It's not complete doom and gloom for the UW Athletic Department. These numbers should be fairly illustrative as to why the move to the Big10 was important for UW and how as UW moves into receiving a full share of Big10 revenue that that closes one of the major gaps vs a blue blood like Alabama. But the area that we lack compared to larger athletic departments is with respect to our donors and how much money we bring in (this in theory would also have implications to NIL as well).
As it pertains to DeBoer, this provides some actual data as to the relative resources of the schools involved and why just saying "UW should have paid more" is probably not as accurate of a response as you'd like it to be.
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There were facts?
I saw a bunch of bloviating bullshit running cover for failure
So nothing new there
 
Sure
You clearly don't live in a world where results matter
Two bit apologist for the administration
Like I said
 
Tequilla said:
For any public institution, you can reference the Knight Commission (https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/) to dig into the revenues of each Athletic Department.
Since there is this idea around here that UW didn't do enough to keep DeBoer and that they should have fought harder against whatever offer that Alabama put on the table, it probably makes sense to look at the Athletic Department revenues for each school over the last 3 reported years (2022 to 2024) …
Alabama Athletic Department Revenue:
Washington Athletic Department Revenue:
What are the key takeaways:

It's not complete doom and gloom for the UW Athletic Department. These numbers should be fairly illustrative as to why the move to the Big10 was important for UW and how as UW moves into receiving a full share of Big10 revenue that that closes one of the major gaps vs a blue blood like Alabama. But the area that we lack compared to larger athletic departments is with respect to our donors and how much money we bring in (this in theory would also have implications to NIL as well).
As it pertains to DeBoer, this provides some actual data as to the relative resources of the schools involved and why just saying "UW should have paid more" is probably not as accurate of a response as you'd like it to be.
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Chinteresting
How is it possible 2024 had more ticket revenue than 2023?
Why does fancy school big city UW not have better donors?
 
Tequilla said:
You clearly don’t live in a data informed world …

So not surprising that’s your response
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"You clearly don't live in a data informed world"
Can't. Stop. Laughing.
Please unblock me so that I can spam this at you forever.
 
Canadawg said:
Tequilla said:
For any public institution, you can reference the Knight Commission (https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/) to dig into the revenues of each Athletic Department.
Since there is this idea around here that UW didn't do enough to keep DeBoer and that they should have fought harder against whatever offer that Alabama put on the table, it probably makes sense to look at the Athletic Department revenues for each school over the last 3 reported years (2022 to 2024) …
Alabama Athletic Department Revenue:
Washington Athletic Department Revenue:
What are the key takeaways:

It's not complete doom and gloom for the UW Athletic Department. These numbers should be fairly illustrative as to why the move to the Big10 was important for UW and how as UW moves into receiving a full share of Big10 revenue that that closes one of the major gaps vs a blue blood like Alabama. But the area that we lack compared to larger athletic departments is with respect to our donors and how much money we bring in (this in theory would also have implications to NIL as well).
As it pertains to DeBoer, this provides some actual data as to the relative resources of the schools involved and why just saying "UW should have paid more" is probably not as accurate of a response as you'd like it to be.
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Chinteresting
How is it possible 2024 had more ticket revenue than 2023?
Why does fancy school big city UW not have better donors?
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2024 almost assuredly is tied to the 2023-2024 academic year so would include the 2023 football season
The donor question is problematic and critical …
UW has done a horrific job of attracting young alumni as part of their donor base. It's of particular concern when you think about how the most known of donors are aging and there is the potential for a void in the coming years.
I can't help but hypothesize that a byproduct of some of upper campus deciding to focus more on out of state/country students for a time being has contributed to the gaps with younger alumni. I am happy to see that part of the background of the new President is a focus on education being affordable to in-state students. That's a personal issue for me that I feel very passionately about and think that that should be a core tenant of UW's undergraduate portfolio of students. It also has obvious implications to future donor dollars.
Big picture though the donor question on the whole is one of the more critical ones and a very valid reason to look at the internal rot of the Athletic Department and the need for it frankly to be completely turned over to match what is required in the Big10 Conference. Too much of the legacy AD is tied to small level thinkers that are akin to Jen's small world thinking.
We desperately need an AD that has a big vision, an energy to execute, and one that doesn't view a lack of performance as being acceptable. Chun isn't that person.
 
@haie
You've just validated why I don't put up with your BS
I'm happy to have discussions with anybody
I'm not going to engage with people that prioritize trolling and hating as part of their DNA
In other words, get fucked
 
I have the highest of standard for this program … you constantly miss that
I also have a very keen understanding of where this program sits at present in the world of CFB and the Big10
There are structural issues that need to be fixed to consistently play at the top ends of things
That starts with tearing down the Athletic Department … the same Athletic Department that you often claim that I enable and support … only a delusional idiot would ever confuse me with an Athletic Department shill
I will hand it to you though Race … you are the King of the Simpletons
 
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