The Globalists needed Trump out of power; now they need Putin out of power

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
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1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
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Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
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Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.

 
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While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
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1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
Click to expand...

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
Click to expand...

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been A outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.
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While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
Click to expand...

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
Click to expand...

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
Click to expand...

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been A outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.
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Tl;dl

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While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
Click to expand...

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
Click to expand...

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
Click to expand...

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.
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What the fuck, is this reason?

The liberals will say that you’re racist. When King Jaffa Joffer of Zamunda was consolidating power with his army of child soldiers people didn’t even know. But now that there is was between two countries where people have blue eyes, plus armies that could destroy all but ~15-20 countries in the world with conventional warfare, people all of a sudden care?
 
While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
Click to expand...

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
Click to expand...

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
Click to expand...

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.
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Shit holes gonna shithole
 
There was once a theory that no two countries with a McDonald's would go to war with each other

Scratch that

The support for Ukraine is a mile wide and an inch deep

It's domestic politics. The twidiots with the Ukraine 🇺🇦 spend all day tweeting about Trump and Putin

Zelensky should have dropped the dime on Biden when he had the chance

Instead president Biden oversees the Putin invasion

Oh well
 
Trump has been killed for months for saying Putin is smart

Now the paper of record agrees?
 
I think your part about the Ukraine being recognizable and that nothing in Somalia is recognizable is pretty spot on. Ukraine was a functioning something. Not really a democracy and corrupt as hell with a state run media. Sort of like the US and the 2020 election. The Ukraine has/had a functioning economy and was exporting natural gas and fertilizer and wheat. The Russians are definitely the bad guys and have been since the commies took over in 1917.

I don't relate to trying to fix Somalia or Zimbabwe. It's not that I don't care, but fixing it would mean killing lots of people and then installing a Colonial government. Just like barry and PIPS decided to "fix" Libya. Fixing it would mean armed occupation, forever. At this point, Putin isn't going to take anything but part of Eastern Ukraine at this point. He is definitely stalled out. He ain't taking Finland or Lithuania, let alone Poland. My biggest bitch is that the non-Russia European economies are multiple times larger than the Russian economy and yet they had no interest in really having an effective military and were happy to let the stupid Americans be their backstop. I want that deal renegotiated.

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero
Click to expand...

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.
Click to expand...

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.
Click to expand...

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.
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