The Fisching Report Recruiting Thread Sponsored by The Fisch Bowl

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

day isn't over yet doogies

 

[ntxduck]

Jedd left and the Wildcoots got gang banged in a conference that was far worse than the 2023 pac 12
The team was tuff at home. On the road they were not.
Lipo

I don’t disagree with this. Az looked completely hapless this year without jedd and co. In town (and brought basically everyone back). There has to something to that. Brennan was a bad hire, he wasn’t that bad though

 

[dirtysouwfdawg]

day isn't over yet doogies

wishful thinking.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Everyone appears to be signed except the punter and long snapper. Must have told the punter TBNT, we’ve got an Aussie now.

So zero surprises. Great. Considering 6-6 (and the WSU and Rutgers fuck ups) I'll take it, I guess.

I see one surprise? The Mater Dei WR which is cool, but I know the hope was to flip Marsh and/or Olugbode.

Not a surprise. Was known yesterday (at least before I went to sleep this morning). Besides, the zero surprises was a shot at Jedd for saying there may be several. I'll give him one surprise - the Auzzie punter.

since Fisch said that they flipped the OL from Texas, wr from Oklahoma and brought on the Aussie punter.

I think that's it. Bring on the portal.

 

[RaceBannon]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Yes, UW hasn't had a top 20 class since 2020 (#17). UW had two great recruiting classes back to back (#15 in 2019) before Lake shat the bed with the 2021 class. Then the 2022 class was not very good (or deep).

if they get one this year it’s because of quantity. Overall star rating will not be top 20.

Definitely needed quantity after the 2021 and 2022 classes were so bad and there's not one guy I think was a reach (maybe the Kennedy OL but his brother is such a stud that it's worth taking a flier on him).

#myLancers

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

I think those are/were the surprises and I didn’t read the surprises comment as being only on signing day.
Fuck off @VanillaSupport

 

[AtomicDawg]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

 

[RaceBannon]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

Quite honestly I don't disagree

 

[SmallEugenePool]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

Those games should not have come down to kicking. It was Fisch sucking as a play caller in the red zone

 

[chuck]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

Those games should not have come down to kicking. It was Fisch sucking as a play caller in the red zone

Should notta but they did, and if Gross didn't suck we wouldn't be talking about those close wins like this. Probably should be but we wouldn't.
Close calls, shoulda woulda coulda type shit really only means something when you lose., and UW wouldn't have lost with a good kicker.

 

[EwaDawg]

I think those are/were the surprises and I didn’t read the surprises comment as being only on signing day.
Fuck off @VanillaSupport

Agreed. Fuck off Vanilla. Plus I wanted the two that I knew about to not count against the several. I guess it's a case of the more you know. . . . .

 

[EsophagealFeces]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

Hate to break it to you, but that kid is going to a top 10 team that needs a kicker next year. That ain’t us

 

[SmallEugenePool]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

Hate to break it to you, but that kid is going to a top 10 team that needs a kicker next year. That ain’t us

I hope we don't try.

 

[AtomicDawg]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

"Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu."

Please let us land Eastern Michigan Jesus….

Hate to break it to you, but that kid is going to a top 10 team that needs a kicker next year. That ain’t us

if he is smart he will go to a school that pays the most and actually kicks field goals. NFL kicking jobs are hard to come by. Have to do something impressive to unseat someone. Whether your team wins a lot is completely irrelevant.
The best kicker in the portal went to bama and he had a whopping 8 FGA's and only one attempt above 50 yards.

Not saying he is coming here. Don't twist.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

This is a good point. Jedd loves kicking FGs. He should come here.

 

[digits]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

I'm not so sure the defense was better. The most glaring stat (Stats are for losers, but still) was we? couldn't get off the field on 3rd down this season.

UW Defense 2024

• 3RD DOWN CONVERSION PCT DEFENSE: 106th in FBS
• RUSHING DEFENSE: 84th
• TEAM PASSING EFFICIENCY DEFENSE: 9th
• TOTAL DEFENSE: 27th
• DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY: 45th
• POINTS ALLOWED: 22.8/GAME

UW Defense 2023

 

[HFNY]

I'd say it was better due to fewer points allowed and better total defense, especially considering the talent level dropped off and the injuries increased.
If the staff can get two good DTs and 1 good LB in the portal, then they really should improve (I am bullish on the younger guys in the secondary). There were too many JAGs on the 2024 D.

 

[WoolleyDoog]

Bama Washington and Arizona all had down years after the musical chairs.
It only gets worse if you lose your coach after the championship game since it's January 20 now
Jethro gets a one off because it was HARD.
But that's it. 8-4 was easily attainable. That's a red flag that it's 6-6
Fuck Arizona. Jed had a losing record there. One year wonder so far

What Fisch did at zona was impressive. It was absolutely scorched earth when he took over and they improved each year. It used to be if a coach didn't pop by year 3 they sucked 90% of the time. I have no idea how to evaluate that now with the portal. Is 3 years too long? Then again he had replace 40 something spots on the roster.

Definitely reasons for concern.

Teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska still had a game where they were close against the top of the league, we didn't ever come close to belonging.

The offense couldn't score a lot of points and lacked identity.

Make-a-wish special teams play.

Positives

He is not Ty or Gilby or Jon Donovan.

Defense was better this year with worse personnel.

Our kicker cost us two games. Also a negative that we needed a decent kicking performance to beat Rutgers or wazzu.

Portal could make or break next season. We could get some good players and still suck and then we know it's over. Or we can get no good players and just be used to drive up their value with the blue bloods.

As of today we are eligible for the off season natty.

EWIWBI

I'm not so sure the defense was better. The most glaring stat (Stats are for losers, but still) was we? couldn't get off the field on 3rd down this season.

UW Defense 2024
UW Defense 2023

I've doubted the better defense thing all season. I think the competition has a lot to do with it, especially at QB and offensive coaching. Last year the defense faced:
Bo Nix (Top 15 pick) 2x
Caleb Williams (#1 overall pick + Heisman)
JJ McCarthy (Top 10 pick)
Cam Ward (Possible #1 overall or at least first QB taken)
Quinn Ewers (I'm not in love but has been talked about as a first round QB)
This year, uh…Gabriel? Allar?